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Siemiatkowski: Klarna cut headcount by 50% to under 3,000 employees
“We've gone from 7000 people. We're now below 3000. We've shrank 50%.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna may have under 2,000 employees by 2030
“No, it may very well be even less than that.”
Junestrand: Klarna and Spotify product leaders lack incentives to be curious
“There's so many product directors at Klarna or at Spotify or these companies that have made it, that they're not incentivized to be curious. In a way, they're kind of incentivized to keep the company on the track it is.”
Stebbings: Klarna is not replacing all of its SaaS with AI
“And we have companies like Klarna who are saying, oh, we're replacing all of our SaaS with AI. They're not, they're absolutely not. And they won't.”
Sivulka: Klarna's claims of AI-driven layoffs are investor BS
“You know, there's all these stories, and, you know, you have, like, Klarna that's positioning for investors that they're firing half their staff, and no one really wants, and I think. I think it's BS, yeah.”
Sivulka: Salesforce will survive AI disruption due to human switching costs
“I think that ultimately I don't think they are. I think that I think that Salesforce Like, has built, again, like, a very, very, very sticky network effect with people, and people are the shifting function at the end of the day. It's not a technology problem. …”
By 2030, new tech players will dominate retail banking over incumbents
“At the end of this decade, there will be a couple of new total players that will be very dominating in this space, and the rest will either cease to exist, will merge, and kind of try to acquire some of the new ones, or maybe a few of them will manage to reinv…”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna is not rolling back its implementation of AI
“Like, I think actually if you read the article, the original article, it's actually fairly balanced and it kind of tries to describe this, but then the headline is like, they're rolling AI back, you know, and then the whole media circus go on. So it's like, oh…”
Klarna's AI customer support performed the work of 600 human agents in 2023
“I announced already in 23 that, you know, our AI customer service had, you know, done the equivalent of 600 agents jobs, and it caught a lot of attention at the point of time.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna built an Uber-style gig model hiring customers for support
“Is we actually built like our own Uber model, which means that we encourage today, we recruit our own customers, the most passionate customers that live in rural areas and so forth. And we say, Hey, do you want to work extra? Would you want to work part-time i…”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna headcount is shrinking 20% annually via attrition
“So we're shrinking Through natural attrition with about 20% per year, it's just people leaving their stay about five years and then they move on, which is natural.”
Siemiatkowski: Adyen winning Spotify forced Klarna to pivot from checkout wars
“We have been trying to compete with Stripe and Adyen for five years, and we were like losing it. Like they were just, you know, crushing us. And we were like, this is it. And Adyen had just signed with Daniel X, Spotify, my neighbor. And I was like, this is ov…”
Siemiatkowski: Media perception flipped when Klarna valuation dropped to $6.5B
“When we were the most, you know the most highest valued fintech in Europe, blah, blah, blah. Then like, I could do no wrong. Whatever I said was like, that's brilliant. He's so smart. And then when we like, you know when we came down to 6.5, and we had to do l…”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna Started Shutting Down SaaS Subscriptions Two Years Ago
“And what we realized when we looked at SAS and all of these things already two years ago, which is why we started closing down SAS for us was because We need to provide our AI the best context.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna cannot buy off-the-shelf customer support AI
“Sooner or later, you wanted to read the source code and explain to the customer how it works. You want them to provide as much context as possible to be able to give the right answers. And that's when you start realizing that it's not something you, in our cas…”
O'Driscoll: Sequoia was right on Klarna at $6B; SoftBank wrong at $45B
“The guys who priced it at six billion were right. And the guys, which is Sequoia and the guys who priced it at forty five billion were wrong, which is SoftBank.”
O'Driscoll: SoftBank's Klarna shares will trade at 30-40 cents on dollar
“They just overpaid and they're going to get converted and they're going to trade at 30, 40 cents of what they originally paid.”
O'Driscoll: Klarna's AI adoption will not deliver step-function profit growth
“Take Klarna as the public example. I mean, they talked boldly and they probably did save those people, right? But I think in the end you'll discover it'll have roughly the same profits as other lenders. It'll be marginally more efficient. It won't be a step fu…”
McCabe: Klarna will eventually adopt purpose-built third-party AI systems
“And I think any attempt to do so may yield some short term excitement, but even Klarna long term, I'm pretty sure we'll move on to a professional purpose built system.”
Klarna scrapped Google's 20 percent creative time policy for producing nothing
“Google was pushing for a while, 20% of creative time. We implemented 20% of creative time. Nothing happened. We took it away.”
Siemiatkowski was relieved when Klarna co-founder Niklas Adalberth left
“With Niklas and me, it was slightly different because at the end, me and Niklas became a little bit like an old couple. An old couple to me is one where you kind of stop listening to each other, so you don't anymore actually hear what the other person is sayin…”
Stebbings: Tech companies like Klarna build their own customer support AI
“And then the worst thing about this market is that for any sophisticated buyer, an Airwallex, a Klarna, a Navan, a technology-facing company, everyone has built their own.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna operates proprietary payment rails capturing itemized receipt data
“We have our own payments network. Just like Amex, we have our own Rails. Every time you shop with Klana, the information that flows on the rails isn't just the amount that you purchase for. It's the exact products. We have the full digital receipt.”
Siemiatkowski: Fintechs target market share from legacy banks, not each other
“Whose market share are we eating? You know, Barclays, you know the Wells Fargo's, the Capital One, those are the companies that we are going after, right? So I don't really see there's a big conflict between us. It's more the incumbents that are going to lose …”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna should have exercised greater caution on hiring before layoffs
“I could have been, you know, more careful, specifically on the hiring side, because it was very sad and difficult to me to, like, a few quarters earlier be hiring at a high pace, and then a few quarters later have to announce layoffs. That, that I felt that, l…”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna employee compensation per head rose nearly 50%
“So our employee compensation has grown almost 50% per head. During the same time.”
Siemiatkowski: Human connection will define future VIP customer service
“So we said the future of VIP experience will be the human connection. The relationship. And then we genuinely believe. So we said, we need to transform our customer service from thinking about it as like, okay, yes, it's officially just like good customer serv…”
Klarna gave up $100M in revenue by eliminating revolving credit
“We gave up a hundred million dollars of revenue when we removed revolving because we used to do it in Nordics.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna's 110M customer base is nearly double Revolut's 65M
“Klarna has a hundred ten million customers worldwide. Revolut now has 65, right? So I'm twice the size in number of customers.”
O'Driscoll: Klarna needs public capital access while Stripe commands infinite cheap private money
“If you're a Klarna, if you're a financial player where access to capital is really important, you know, you are fundamentally a lender. I think being public and having access to money in all its different ways makes sense. If you're a high growth AI company or…”
Lemkin: Only Two of 20,000 Gorgias Customers Automate 100% of Support
“And out of 20,000, they have a handful of folks that are at a hundred, like Klarna... Two. Two, one, 200.”
Levchin: Affirm grew 35% last quarter, outpacing Klarna's 32%
“I think they announced that they grew 32% last quarter. I think we announced that we grew 35%.”
McCabe: Most businesses cannot automate customer service as easily as Klarna
“Certain use cases where the distribution of the types of questions is really tight, rather than this big, long, normal distribution of so many different types of questions, will be able to create these tight custom experiences. If you're a Klarina, for example…”
Quinn: Klarna chose a 90% down round over heavy deal structure
“I think Klan is a good example in Europe, right? And they do a 90% down round rather than taking like a lot of structure because that structure then sticks with you for multiple rounds.”
Siemiatkowski: Operational clarity motivates teams before corporate purpose does
“Sports have, and games have, that makes it motivating, and these essential building blocks have to be in place first, and if you have those building blocks, then you can also add to that a great sense of purpose, and some kind of positive contribution to socie…”
Siemiatkowski: Leaders with self-sustained teams can manage up to 14 direct reports
“In the best of worlds, if you have great leaders That are very self sustained and really can push forward themselves. Then you can have a lot of direct reports. You can even manage up to, you can maybe do 14 people. If you are in a tougher starting phase or wh…”
Siemiatkowski: Optimal employee growth occurs near the breaking point
“The best spot is at the place where you're, like, challenged to the precise point where you're almost giving up, but not entirely, right?”
Siemiatkowski names Michael Moritz as the best board member he has had
“Michael Moritz. Michael is amazing in so many ways that like I could write a book about Michael and what he's done for me and the support he's given me. And someday I will tell the stories of what really happened. And I think he genuinely very different to a l…”
Siemiatkowski predicts Revolut founder Nikolay Storonsky will successfully transform retail banking
“I know you're going to have Revolut as an example, or you already had Nick. Like, obviously, partially, he's a competitor to me, but much more, he's a soulmate to me. Like, he's also going to change this industry, and he's going to do that successfully”
Siemiatkowski compares Klarna to a digital version of American Express
“Klarna is very different. Like our customers, like I shop online, I do shopping, you know, we skew more female than male. We have a very different brand. I would think of us more like a lifestyle brand, like a digital version of American Express.”
Klarna was profitable from 2005 to 2019 after spending $30,000
“We raised 60,000 dollars in our first angel investment, 30,000 dollars of that was spent, and then we became profitable. And we were running this as a profitable company from oh five to 19.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna is not offering buy now, pay later on rent
“Yesterday on X, somebody wrote like, Clona-like. Clona-like company is going to offer buy now, pay later on rent. It was Clona-like. So it was actually another company, but people didn't see that. They just say, Clona is going to offer buy now, pay later on re…”
Sequoia took a 25% stake in Klarna at a $100M valuation
“They took a 25% stake at a hundred million dollar valuation, right? Yeah, at a hundred million dollar valuation.”
Siemiatkowski: Klarna has nearly 28 million users in the US
“We have thirty million users in the US, right? Almost like I think it's 28 or something. So like, but soon it's going to be 30.”
Siemiatkowski: I Would Prefer Klarna to Be 100% Privately Owned
“Yeah, of course, if I could own the company a hundred percent and be private, I would prefer it, right? But that's not the reality.”
Siemiatkowski skips CEO events to hard code at Klarna
“I don't go to that many of those, to be honest, because I'm hard coding and working with my teams and trying to make sure that Clon is as successful as possible through this transformation.”
Stebbings: Klarna's growth slowed to 13% as borrowing costs surged
“13% growth, the cost of borrowing is way up.”
Siemiatkowski: Leaders should share personal context when in bad moods
“But at least what I've learned to do much more nowadays is that I'm trying, to your point about vulnerability and kind of approachability, I try to at least tell people that. If I go into a meeting, I'm just like, guys, just so you know, like, I had a quarrel …”