Eleanor Dorfman

Head of Industries, Anthropic · 1 appearance on the record.

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Eleanor Dorfman leads commercial and industry sales at Anthropic, designing its AI-native sales operations. She previously served as Head of Sales at Retool and led customer success and expansion sales teams at Segment.

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292 words/min while actually speaking · 13.7 um and uh per 1k words · 4.9 false starts per 1k · 31% of pauses land inside a clause

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Everything Eleanor Dorfman said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Startups must choose between PLG and enterprise sales at $100M ARR
“I think that works from zero to a hundred million roughly. And I think once you hit around a hundred million, You need to start to pick a lane a little bit more because by that stage, your buyer has likely changed.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 12:37 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Early-stage startups should hire adaptable 'street fighters' over incumbent sales reps
“So I think in the beginning, you have no idea what you're doing. You have some ideas, you know, what hypotheses you're testing, but you don't have sales enablement. You don't really have the playbook for the deals yet. Do you have your ICP? Do you know if your…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 21:31 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Founders should generate sales playbook inputs, not write the playbooks themselves
“That's not their job, I believe, to create the sales playbook, but it is their job to generate the inputs That go into that playbook.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 7:13 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Sales accelerates healthy systems, cannot fix broken ones
“Sales is there to accelerate a healthy machine, but it can't fix a broken one.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 9:36 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sales leaders should design compensation plans where 80% of reps hit quota
“And how can you take that and map it into a comp plan where, you know, hopefully I think the logic I've always used is that you should design a comp structure where at least 80% of your reps are hitting.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 31:44 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Never build processes or teams before defining the problem
“Do not ever build a process or a structure or a team or anything until you know what problem you're trying to solve.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 5:06 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Selling new software categories requires driving behavior change
“Selling into a new category is really challenging. It's a different type of challenge retools, a new category segment was a new category. You're not just selling a point solution. You're not just selling a product. You have to create budgets. You have to creat…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 5:37 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Retool's value proposition shifted from speed to efficiency during the market downturn
“What's been interesting actually about the market shift over the last Few months, it feels like years is, is the value property tool has shifted a little bit. It was acceleration. It was time to value. It was enabling people to grow really quickly and move at …”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 16:47 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Founders adding sales to PLG should scale reps incrementally, not rapidly
“It's a risk because you create complexity when you create both and you have to do it for a reason. So you, it comes back to what's the problem you're trying to solve. What's the hypothesis you're testing. Don't go out and just hire 10 or 15 reps. Hire one, hir…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 17:54 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Startups should not reinvent software pricing models
“They, you know, there are no models going out and creating a new pricing model is why, like, do not reinvent the wheel when it comes to pricing.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 18:56 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Customer-first mindset cannot be taught and must be bought when hiring
“A customer first mindset is also something you can't teach. You can't build it. You have to buy it.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 25:33 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Interviewers must probe deeply because sales candidates excel at selling themselves
“Salespeople are good at selling. That is their job. And when they're interviewing, they're selling their favorite subject themselves. And the key is to go 19 levels deeper until you reach the real point.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 26:13 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tech sales candidates are prioritizing cash over equity to de-risk careers
“And so I think now folks are optimizing for cash a little bit more than equity. Still both though. But they're more focused on de-risking versus finding the moonshot.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 30:04 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Discounting in sales is a red herring without clear ROI
“There's a time and a place. But I think discounting is Sort of a false hearing. It's just, do you understand the value you're providing? Do you understand how important that is to them and what problems you're solving? Do you understand their alternative to us…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 35:35 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Dorfman: Retool hired sales enablement too late, creating process debt
“I think that one of my biggest lessons was you hire for sales enablement too late and I think we hired too late. I think we have a lot of Process debt as a result.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 37:48 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Startups hire RevOps and sales enablement too late
“I always think people hire rev ops too late and sales enablement too late because you can't hire it once you need it. You got to hire it before you need it.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 38:03 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
An empty calendar and lack of questions are early sales mis-hire indicators
“I would say an empty calendar is a red flag to your point. They're not outbounding. They're not booking any meetings. They're not meeting with their SDR. They're not meeting with their sales engineer. They're not meeting with their CSMs. So I think an empty ca…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 40:04 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Dorfman: Spray-and-pray outbound sales cold calling is dead
“Lack of personalization, like spray and pray outbound, hold calling without knowing who you're talking to. I think buyers now today expect a level of personalization that they historically have not.”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 45:01 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Dorfman: Monte Carlo defined its category via heavy content and event marketing
“Monte Carlo has invested in fields and content in a way that I have found very impressive. I think they've created a category through Just sheer market education in a way. They somehow seem to be at every conference producing new content every week and have cr…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 47:53 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Retool AEs host customer hackathons and dinners to close deals
“We've got two folks down at a customer onsite right now, running a hackathon with the team. They're retool sponsoring a hackathon and they're building applications together. And so they're meeting all these new teams. They're embedding themselves in the busine…”
Eleanor Dorfman Sep 14, 2022 ▶ 36:48 Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Eleanor Dorfman: How We Scaled Retool to $50M ARR; Red Flags for Sales Hires | 20VC #925 · Sep 14, 2022 32m
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