Mar 30, 2018 · 24m · 20vc

20VC: Tearing Up Term Sheets and Writing Your Own, Why Founders Must Do "VC Dating" Pre-Fundraise & The Benefits of Capital Constraints in The Early Days with Rachel Drori, Founder & CEO @ Daily Harvest

Rachel Drori · 14m spoken Harry Stebbings · 8m spoken
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Daily Harvest founder and CEO Rachel Drori joins host Harry Stebbings on The 20 Minute VC to discuss her unconventional fundraising tactics, early capital efficiency, and managing startup crises. She shares key lessons on taking control of term sheets, executing pre-fundraise 'VC dating', and maintaining founder conviction.

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Harry as informed peer 3.0 Guest teaching 4.3 Guest disagreement 1.8 Harry pushing back 2.0
05100:0010:0020:002:16–5:53 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Welcome & Career Background from Corporate to Startup Harry introduces Rachel's background and cites direct input from board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's low capital burn in early rounds. Rachel explains her disciplined philosophy on capital efficiency and hiring behind growth curve rather than ahead of it. The tone is highly collaborative and informational.5:55–9:21 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Managing Startup Crises Through Stoicism Rachel details using stoic philosophy during startup crises, like site outages. When Harry presents the standard VC trope that Seed is for vision and Series A is for data, Rachel reframes the narrative, explaining how middle-aged male VCs failed to grasp her vision early on, forcing her to bootstrap and prove the concept with hard numbers.9:21–12:09 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 The 'VC Dating' Strategy for Series B Rachel walks through her Series A fundraising, where rapid revenue growth rendered initial valuation discussions outdated. She describes tearing up conventional term sheets, drafting her own terms, and capping allocation per fund. Harry listens with high interest, offering supportive commentary rather than pushback.12:09–15:02 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 The Role of Board Empathy & Sounding Boards for Single Founders Rachel outlines her pre-fundraise 'VC dating' strategy that compressed her Series B process into two weeks. Harry asks whether single founders need board empathy versus strategic value, and Rachel explains how her board members act as crucial sounding boards in place of a co-founder.15:03–19:25 · Harry as informed peer 5/10 The New York Consumer Ecosystem & Early Funding Challenges Harry offers pushback on the rosy narrative around the New York startup ecosystem, citing feedback from local seed investors about a shortage of conviction capital. Rachel validates his point with her own early fundraising struggles and shares how she pushed back against early investors who told her not to expand beyond smoothies.19:25–22:15 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Quickfire Round & Future Vision for Daily Harvest In the quickfire round, Rachel offers concise reflections on book recommendations, dismantling the myth of work-life balance, and taking calculated risks while pregnant. The dynamic remains casual and conversational throughout.2:16–5:53 · Guest teaching 4/10 Welcome & Career Background from Corporate to Startup Harry introduces Rachel's background and cites direct input from board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's low capital burn in early rounds. Rachel explains her disciplined philosophy on capital efficiency and hiring behind growth curve rather than ahead of it. The tone is highly collaborative and informational.5:55–9:21 · Guest teaching 5/10 Managing Startup Crises Through Stoicism Rachel details using stoic philosophy during startup crises, like site outages. When Harry presents the standard VC trope that Seed is for vision and Series A is for data, Rachel reframes the narrative, explaining how middle-aged male VCs failed to grasp her vision early on, forcing her to bootstrap and prove the concept with hard numbers.9:21–12:09 · Guest teaching 6/10 The 'VC Dating' Strategy for Series B Rachel walks through her Series A fundraising, where rapid revenue growth rendered initial valuation discussions outdated. She describes tearing up conventional term sheets, drafting her own terms, and capping allocation per fund. Harry listens with high interest, offering supportive commentary rather than pushback.12:09–15:02 · Guest teaching 5/10 The Role of Board Empathy & Sounding Boards for Single Founders Rachel outlines her pre-fundraise 'VC dating' strategy that compressed her Series B process into two weeks. Harry asks whether single founders need board empathy versus strategic value, and Rachel explains how her board members act as crucial sounding boards in place of a co-founder.15:03–19:25 · Guest teaching 4/10 The New York Consumer Ecosystem & Early Funding Challenges Harry offers pushback on the rosy narrative around the New York startup ecosystem, citing feedback from local seed investors about a shortage of conviction capital. Rachel validates his point with her own early fundraising struggles and shares how she pushed back against early investors who told her not to expand beyond smoothies.19:25–22:15 · Guest teaching 2/10 Quickfire Round & Future Vision for Daily Harvest In the quickfire round, Rachel offers concise reflections on book recommendations, dismantling the myth of work-life balance, and taking calculated risks while pregnant. The dynamic remains casual and conversational throughout.2:16–5:53 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Welcome & Career Background from Corporate to Startup Harry introduces Rachel's background and cites direct input from board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's low capital burn in early rounds. Rachel explains her disciplined philosophy on capital efficiency and hiring behind growth curve rather than ahead of it. The tone is highly collaborative and informational.5:55–9:21 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Managing Startup Crises Through Stoicism Rachel details using stoic philosophy during startup crises, like site outages. When Harry presents the standard VC trope that Seed is for vision and Series A is for data, Rachel reframes the narrative, explaining how middle-aged male VCs failed to grasp her vision early on, forcing her to bootstrap and prove the concept with hard numbers.9:21–12:09 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The 'VC Dating' Strategy for Series B Rachel walks through her Series A fundraising, where rapid revenue growth rendered initial valuation discussions outdated. She describes tearing up conventional term sheets, drafting her own terms, and capping allocation per fund. Harry listens with high interest, offering supportive commentary rather than pushback.12:09–15:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Role of Board Empathy & Sounding Boards for Single Founders Rachel outlines her pre-fundraise 'VC dating' strategy that compressed her Series B process into two weeks. Harry asks whether single founders need board empathy versus strategic value, and Rachel explains how her board members act as crucial sounding boards in place of a co-founder.15:03–19:25 · Guest disagreement 3/10 The New York Consumer Ecosystem & Early Funding Challenges Harry offers pushback on the rosy narrative around the New York startup ecosystem, citing feedback from local seed investors about a shortage of conviction capital. Rachel validates his point with her own early fundraising struggles and shares how she pushed back against early investors who told her not to expand beyond smoothies.19:25–22:15 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Quickfire Round & Future Vision for Daily Harvest In the quickfire round, Rachel offers concise reflections on book recommendations, dismantling the myth of work-life balance, and taking calculated risks while pregnant. The dynamic remains casual and conversational throughout.2:16–5:53 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Welcome & Career Background from Corporate to Startup Harry introduces Rachel's background and cites direct input from board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's low capital burn in early rounds. Rachel explains her disciplined philosophy on capital efficiency and hiring behind growth curve rather than ahead of it. The tone is highly collaborative and informational.5:55–9:21 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Managing Startup Crises Through Stoicism Rachel details using stoic philosophy during startup crises, like site outages. When Harry presents the standard VC trope that Seed is for vision and Series A is for data, Rachel reframes the narrative, explaining how middle-aged male VCs failed to grasp her vision early on, forcing her to bootstrap and prove the concept with hard numbers.9:21–12:09 · Harry pushing back 1/10 The 'VC Dating' Strategy for Series B Rachel walks through her Series A fundraising, where rapid revenue growth rendered initial valuation discussions outdated. She describes tearing up conventional term sheets, drafting her own terms, and capping allocation per fund. Harry listens with high interest, offering supportive commentary rather than pushback.12:09–15:02 · Harry pushing back 2/10 The Role of Board Empathy & Sounding Boards for Single Founders Rachel outlines her pre-fundraise 'VC dating' strategy that compressed her Series B process into two weeks. Harry asks whether single founders need board empathy versus strategic value, and Rachel explains how her board members act as crucial sounding boards in place of a co-founder.15:03–19:25 · Harry pushing back 4/10 The New York Consumer Ecosystem & Early Funding Challenges Harry offers pushback on the rosy narrative around the New York startup ecosystem, citing feedback from local seed investors about a shortage of conviction capital. Rachel validates his point with her own early fundraising struggles and shares how she pushed back against early investors who told her not to expand beyond smoothies.19:25–22:15 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Quickfire Round & Future Vision for Daily Harvest In the quickfire round, Rachel offers concise reflections on book recommendations, dismantling the myth of work-life balance, and taking calculated risks while pregnant. The dynamic remains casual and conversational throughout.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 91.5% · guest 8.5%0:00 · Harry 91.5% · guest 8.5%3:00 · Harry 23.2% · guest 76.8%3:00 · Harry 23.2% · guest 76.8%6:00 · Harry 18.9% · guest 81.1%6:00 · Harry 18.9% · guest 81.1%9:00 · Harry 19.4% · guest 80.6%9:00 · Harry 19.4% · guest 80.6%12:00 · Harry 21% · guest 79%12:00 · Harry 21% · guest 79%15:00 · Harry 37.2% · guest 62.8%15:00 · Harry 37.2% · guest 62.8%18:00 · Harry 16.5% · guest 83.5%18:00 · Harry 16.5% · guest 83.5%21:00 · Harry 68% · guest 32%21:00 · Harry 68% · guest 32%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:30 Rejecting investor limits on product expansion

Rachel describes forcefully rejecting investor demands to stick strictly to smoothies, asserting that as the target demographic she understood product expansion better than they did.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 16:09 Challenging New York funding ecosystem narrative

Harry challenges the idea that New York is an easy market for early capital by citing local seed investors and angels who complain about a lack of conviction capital.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 10:50 Blowing up term sheets and writing her own

Rachel educates Harry on how a rapid double in run rate during fundraising allowed her to throw out traditional VC terms, write her own term sheet, and cap individual fund allocations.

Harry holds his own ▶ 4:12 Leveraging board insider context

Harry demonstrates strong preparation and industry access by bringing up specific off-air conversations with board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's early capital strategy.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Welcome & Career Background from Corporate to Startup 3412 Harry introduces Rachel's background and cites direct input from board member Beth Ferreira regarding Daily Harvest's low capital burn in early rounds. Rachel explains her disciplined philosophy on capital efficiency and hiring behind growth curve rather than ahead of it. The tone is highly collaborative and informational.
Managing Startup Crises Through Stoicism 3532 Rachel details using stoic philosophy during startup crises, like site outages. When Harry presents the standard VC trope that Seed is for vision and Series A is for data, Rachel reframes the narrative, explaining how middle-aged male VCs failed to grasp her vision early on, forcing her to bootstrap and prove the concept with hard numbers.
The 'VC Dating' Strategy for Series B 3621 Rachel walks through her Series A fundraising, where rapid revenue growth rendered initial valuation discussions outdated. She describes tearing up conventional term sheets, drafting her own terms, and capping allocation per fund. Harry listens with high interest, offering supportive commentary rather than pushback.
The Role of Board Empathy & Sounding Boards for Single Founders 3512 Rachel outlines her pre-fundraise 'VC dating' strategy that compressed her Series B process into two weeks. Harry asks whether single founders need board empathy versus strategic value, and Rachel explains how her board members act as crucial sounding boards in place of a co-founder.
The New York Consumer Ecosystem & Early Funding Challenges 5434 Harry offers pushback on the rosy narrative around the New York startup ecosystem, citing feedback from local seed investors about a shortage of conviction capital. Rachel validates his point with her own early fundraising struggles and shares how she pushed back against early investors who told her not to expand beyond smoothies.
Quickfire Round & Future Vision for Daily Harvest 1211 In the quickfire round, Rachel offers concise reflections on book recommendations, dismantling the myth of work-life balance, and taking calculated risks while pregnant. The dynamic remains casual and conversational throughout.

Statements from this episode (14)

Disclosure
Daily Harvest avoided hiring six months ahead of projected growth
“As I built Daily Harvest, I really looked at building it very capital efficient, not hiring six months ahead of growth, and just some learnings from the record speed Hit a peak and went down from there.”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 3:57
Insight
Drori: Capital constraints force startups to be selective and methodical
“Being Capital Light allowed us, or not only allowed us, it forced us to kind of be very selective with things that we went after and to be methodical about how we did it.”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 4:56
Assertion Supported
Daily Harvest delayed building proprietary tech by starting with off-the-shelf software
“Things like team growth to be able to build our own proprietary site, you know, that's something that we didn't prioritize. We knew we could use Kind of an out-of-the-box solution, which was very not out-of-the-box by the time we were done with it, but an out-…”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 5:23
Insight
Drori uses stoic worst-case analysis to handle startup crises
“And for me, the thing that I always go back to is stoicism or stoic philosophy. And I always ask myself, what's the absolute worst thing that can happen? So, you know, in that moment I said, okay, well, worst case scenario, people don't get charged. It's one w…”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 6:31
Opinion
Drori: Early male VCs failed to understand Daily Harvest's frozen food concept
“And the reason why is because I started speaking to people early on and I found that they just didn't get the business. It was mostly middle-aged men who I was talking to, and they would taste one of our first collections, which was smoothies, and they'd be li…”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 8:27
Disclosure
Daily Harvest doubled its revenue run rate in six weeks during Series A
“What we saw was this incredible growth over that six weeks. And what happened was the run rate that I originally deemed like the one to raise the Series A at had doubled in that six weeks”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 9:55
Disclosure
Drori rejected Series A term sheets to write her own
“So I actually decided to blow up the entire round and basically wrote my own term sheet and sent it back to everybody. And I said, Hey guys, little untraditional here, but this is how it's going to be. And I sent back the term sheet and I said, do you want to …”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 11:01
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Daily Harvest raised Series B in two weeks pitching six VCs
“I actually went out for the round. I only went out to six VCs, and I'd already had relationships. I already knew that I wanted to work with them, and I ran a true process, but in such a short period of time. First, instead of that six weeks that the other two …”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 13:19
Insight
Empathetic board members can act as co-founder sounding boards
“Both Alex and Carl be the type of people that I can call. I can be a little vulnerable with, you know, I can, I will get that empathy, but they're also just wonderful sounding boards. So the decisions that one would usually make with a co-founder, I find that …”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 14:41
Opinion
New York tech ecosystem lacks conviction investors at the early stage
“I would absolutely agree. So, you know, if you rewind to my story about raising my series seed, it was not easy. It's really hard to find people at such an early stage that will invest in a concept or an idea.”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 16:28
Disclosure
Drori bootstrapped Daily Harvest while pregnant and unable to travel
“I had to bootstrap the business. You know, I was in a position where I wasn't actually able to fly. I was very pregnant. And I only had the New York city community, so I had to make it work”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 16:42
Insight
First-time founders must project confidence and fake a track record
“If you've never done it before, you have to pretend that you know exactly what you're doing because you really don't earn points for being a rookie, so, you know, people are looking to invest in people who have a proven track record. Well, guess what? If you d…”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 17:22
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Drori: Early Daily Harvest investors urged against expanding beyond smoothies
“When I started getting traction with our first collection, which was just smoothies, I had some investors who were really, really hesitant for me to go outside of smoothies.”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 18:38
Insight
Work-life balance is impossible and founders must accept trade-offs
“I think before I had kids, there was this idea that you can have it all at some point, and I realized that that is just It's not possible, you know, and I think that it's an idealized vision that a lot of people have, like, oh, you know, I'll be able to do eve…”
Rachel Drori Mar 30, 2018 ▶ 20:19
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