Nov 6, 2015 · 26m · 20vc

20 VC FF 20: Shaking Up The Food Industry With Willie Biggart @ Spoonfed

Willie Biggart · 18m spoken Harry Stebbings · 5m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Willie Biggart, chairman and co-founder of Spoonfed, exploring how the SaaS platform is modernizing the £33 billion B2B corporate catering industry by transitioning businesses from manual paper processes to scalable, system-dependent software.

How this conversation actually went

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Harry as informed peer 2.2 Guest teaching 1.8 Guest disagreement 0.0 Harry pushing back 0.2
05100:0010:0020:002:10–5:32 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Willie Biggart's Entrepreneurial Journey and Spoonfed's Origins Harry sets up the interview by inviting Willie to introduce his background. Willie provides a friendly background monologue detailing his agency exit, angel investing, and how managing a disorganized catering business led to Spoonfed.5:32–7:35 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Transitioning from People Dependent to System Dependent Business Models Harry asks about the key drivers of Spoonfed, prompting Willie to explain the transition from people-dependent to system-dependent business models. Willie outlines the reliability and margin benefits for corporate catering drop-offs.7:35–11:10 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Analyzing the Global B2B Catering Market Opportunity Harry questions whether the market is larger than it initially appears and asks about the broader food tech trend. Willie explains the distinction between consumer-facing B2C food apps and Spoonfed's B2B back-office operational focus.11:10–14:16 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Customer Acquisition Strategies and Operational Domain Knowledge Harry shows strong research by citing specific client wins like Le Pain Quotidien and asking about SaaS acquisition strategy. Willie contrasts targeted rifle strategies and domain expertise with developer-led competitors.14:17–20:36 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Value of Operator Experience and Social Bite Case Study Harry asks targeted questions regarding operator experience, fundraising on Syndicate Room, and financial planning. Willie shares the Social Bite case study and explains their bottom-up financial forecasting approach.20:36–26:13 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Quickfire Round Ray Kroc Inspiration and Five Year Outlook Harry conducts a standard quickfire round. Willie shares insights on Ray Kroc's system focus, leadership advice from Sir John Harvey Jones, and five-year growth targets in a warm and collaborative tone.2:10–5:32 · Guest teaching 1/10 Willie Biggart's Entrepreneurial Journey and Spoonfed's Origins Harry sets up the interview by inviting Willie to introduce his background. Willie provides a friendly background monologue detailing his agency exit, angel investing, and how managing a disorganized catering business led to Spoonfed.5:32–7:35 · Guest teaching 2/10 Transitioning from People Dependent to System Dependent Business Models Harry asks about the key drivers of Spoonfed, prompting Willie to explain the transition from people-dependent to system-dependent business models. Willie outlines the reliability and margin benefits for corporate catering drop-offs.7:35–11:10 · Guest teaching 3/10 Analyzing the Global B2B Catering Market Opportunity Harry questions whether the market is larger than it initially appears and asks about the broader food tech trend. Willie explains the distinction between consumer-facing B2C food apps and Spoonfed's B2B back-office operational focus.11:10–14:16 · Guest teaching 2/10 Customer Acquisition Strategies and Operational Domain Knowledge Harry shows strong research by citing specific client wins like Le Pain Quotidien and asking about SaaS acquisition strategy. Willie contrasts targeted rifle strategies and domain expertise with developer-led competitors.14:17–20:36 · Guest teaching 2/10 Value of Operator Experience and Social Bite Case Study Harry asks targeted questions regarding operator experience, fundraising on Syndicate Room, and financial planning. Willie shares the Social Bite case study and explains their bottom-up financial forecasting approach.20:36–26:13 · Guest teaching 1/10 Quickfire Round Ray Kroc Inspiration and Five Year Outlook Harry conducts a standard quickfire round. Willie shares insights on Ray Kroc's system focus, leadership advice from Sir John Harvey Jones, and five-year growth targets in a warm and collaborative tone.2:10–5:32 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Willie Biggart's Entrepreneurial Journey and Spoonfed's Origins Harry sets up the interview by inviting Willie to introduce his background. Willie provides a friendly background monologue detailing his agency exit, angel investing, and how managing a disorganized catering business led to Spoonfed.5:32–7:35 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Transitioning from People Dependent to System Dependent Business Models Harry asks about the key drivers of Spoonfed, prompting Willie to explain the transition from people-dependent to system-dependent business models. Willie outlines the reliability and margin benefits for corporate catering drop-offs.7:35–11:10 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Analyzing the Global B2B Catering Market Opportunity Harry questions whether the market is larger than it initially appears and asks about the broader food tech trend. Willie explains the distinction between consumer-facing B2C food apps and Spoonfed's B2B back-office operational focus.11:10–14:16 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Customer Acquisition Strategies and Operational Domain Knowledge Harry shows strong research by citing specific client wins like Le Pain Quotidien and asking about SaaS acquisition strategy. Willie contrasts targeted rifle strategies and domain expertise with developer-led competitors.14:17–20:36 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Value of Operator Experience and Social Bite Case Study Harry asks targeted questions regarding operator experience, fundraising on Syndicate Room, and financial planning. Willie shares the Social Bite case study and explains their bottom-up financial forecasting approach.20:36–26:13 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Quickfire Round Ray Kroc Inspiration and Five Year Outlook Harry conducts a standard quickfire round. Willie shares insights on Ray Kroc's system focus, leadership advice from Sir John Harvey Jones, and five-year growth targets in a warm and collaborative tone.2:10–5:32 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Willie Biggart's Entrepreneurial Journey and Spoonfed's Origins Harry sets up the interview by inviting Willie to introduce his background. Willie provides a friendly background monologue detailing his agency exit, angel investing, and how managing a disorganized catering business led to Spoonfed.5:32–7:35 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Transitioning from People Dependent to System Dependent Business Models Harry asks about the key drivers of Spoonfed, prompting Willie to explain the transition from people-dependent to system-dependent business models. Willie outlines the reliability and margin benefits for corporate catering drop-offs.7:35–11:10 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Analyzing the Global B2B Catering Market Opportunity Harry questions whether the market is larger than it initially appears and asks about the broader food tech trend. Willie explains the distinction between consumer-facing B2C food apps and Spoonfed's B2B back-office operational focus.11:10–14:16 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Customer Acquisition Strategies and Operational Domain Knowledge Harry shows strong research by citing specific client wins like Le Pain Quotidien and asking about SaaS acquisition strategy. Willie contrasts targeted rifle strategies and domain expertise with developer-led competitors.14:17–20:36 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Value of Operator Experience and Social Bite Case Study Harry asks targeted questions regarding operator experience, fundraising on Syndicate Room, and financial planning. Willie shares the Social Bite case study and explains their bottom-up financial forecasting approach.20:36–26:13 · Harry pushing back 0/10 Quickfire Round Ray Kroc Inspiration and Five Year Outlook Harry conducts a standard quickfire round. Willie shares insights on Ray Kroc's system focus, leadership advice from Sir John Harvey Jones, and five-year growth targets in a warm and collaborative tone.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 79.4% · guest 20.6%0:00 · Harry 79.4% · guest 20.6%3:00 · Harry 5.3% · guest 94.7%3:00 · Harry 5.3% · guest 94.7%6:00 · Harry 8.4% · guest 91.6%6:00 · Harry 8.4% · guest 91.6%9:00 · Harry 25.5% · guest 74.5%9:00 · Harry 25.5% · guest 74.5%12:00 · Harry 14.2% · guest 85.8%12:00 · Harry 14.2% · guest 85.8%15:00 · Harry 11% · guest 89%15:00 · Harry 11% · guest 89%18:00 · Harry 16.5% · guest 83.5%18:00 · Harry 16.5% · guest 83.5%21:00 · Harry 8.6% · guest 91.4%21:00 · Harry 8.6% · guest 91.4%24:00 · Harry 34.7% · guest 65.3%24:00 · Harry 34.7% · guest 65.3%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:41 Differentiating B2B back-office from B2C food tech

Willie gently reframes the host's broad food tech comparison by highlighting how Spoonfed operates in a distinct B2B system niche rather than consumer delivery.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 7:35 Testing the niche market premise

Harry politely pushes back on the idea that catering drop-off is merely a small niche, prompting the guest to detail the full global market potential.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 9:41 Explaining B2B workflow vs B2C apps

Willie educates the host on how B2B catering software requires deep back-office workflow integration rather than just simple consumer ordering interfaces.

Harry holds his own ▶ 11:10 Demonstrating SaaS domain awareness

Harry demonstrates strong guest preparation by citing specific early customer acquisitions like Le Pain Quotidien while probing early SaaS go-to-market challenges.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Willie Biggart's Entrepreneurial Journey and Spoonfed's Origins 1100 Harry sets up the interview by inviting Willie to introduce his background. Willie provides a friendly background monologue detailing his agency exit, angel investing, and how managing a disorganized catering business led to Spoonfed.
Transitioning from People Dependent to System Dependent Business Models 2200 Harry asks about the key drivers of Spoonfed, prompting Willie to explain the transition from people-dependent to system-dependent business models. Willie outlines the reliability and margin benefits for corporate catering drop-offs.
Analyzing the Global B2B Catering Market Opportunity 3301 Harry questions whether the market is larger than it initially appears and asks about the broader food tech trend. Willie explains the distinction between consumer-facing B2C food apps and Spoonfed's B2B back-office operational focus.
Customer Acquisition Strategies and Operational Domain Knowledge 3200 Harry shows strong research by citing specific client wins like Le Pain Quotidien and asking about SaaS acquisition strategy. Willie contrasts targeted rifle strategies and domain expertise with developer-led competitors.
Value of Operator Experience and Social Bite Case Study 3200 Harry asks targeted questions regarding operator experience, fundraising on Syndicate Room, and financial planning. Willie shares the Social Bite case study and explains their bottom-up financial forecasting approach.
Quickfire Round Ray Kroc Inspiration and Five Year Outlook 1100 Harry conducts a standard quickfire round. Willie shares insights on Ray Kroc's system focus, leadership advice from Sir John Harvey Jones, and five-year growth targets in a warm and collaborative tone.

Statements from this episode (15)

Assertion Supported
Spoonfed is raising a £500,000 round on SyndicateRoom
“They're currently raising a 500,000 round on www.syndicateroom.com”
Harry Stebbings Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 0:29
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Spoonfed Handled Over 40,000 Orders Prior to Standalone Launch
“With the software now proven and handling over 40, 50,000 orders, we realized there was an opportunity to create something on a much wider stage.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 5:06
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Biggart: Spoonfed's biggest competitor is paper and spreadsheets
“Our biggest competitor is actually paper and spreadsheets.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 7:17
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Biggart: Global drop-off catering market totals £33 billion
“The drop off catering food market globally is thirty three billion pounds”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 7:49
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Biggart: Spoonfed has a £200 million annual revenue potential
“That's two hundred million, ah, annual revenue potential if you work it out on the average value of orders and the number of orders placed.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 8:01
Assertion Supported
Biggart: US corporate catering market is eight times larger than UK
“America is a huge market and it's eight times the size of the UK.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 8:11
Disclosure
Biggart: Spoonfed in advanced diligence with major US and UK food retailers
“We're in advanced diligence stage with two major retailers, one in the U.K. Part of a big food services group, and another in America, which they're testing it in New York, but they have a number of branches throughout the world.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 8:28
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Biggart: B2C food tech is crowded, but B2B catering software has few competitors
“What's interesting with our market is there is a huge explosion of B to C food technology offerings. I'm thinking of seamless. I'm thinking of Grubhub, Deliveroo, Just Eat in the UK big, big technology platforms making it easier for consumers to order their pi…”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 10:13
Disclosure
Spoonfed was originally built for the founders' own catering business
“Really delicious was our old catering company that, that we sold. So it was natural that they wanted to take, take our system to continue to run the business.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 11:41
Opinion
Biggart: Domain expertise beats developer-led product development in niche B2B SaaS
“Software based on customer needs, from needs that we identified when you ran, when we ran our own catering business. And that's in stark contrast to others out there who have been developer-led and very focused on, well, this is a good piece of kit, someone's …”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 13:43
Assertion Supported
Spoonfed helped Social Bite scale catering turnover from £7K to £70K monthly
“They came to us when they were doing about 7000 pounds of corporate catering revenue through five stores four stores in central belt of Scotland it's a social enterprise business aimed at creating jobs for homeless people, so that helps, but they, they've grow…”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 15:05
Assertion Supported
Willie Biggart: Spoonfed bootstrapped £400K before raising £250K seed round
“We had bootstrapped, spoonfed ourselves, probably to the tune Murray and I, and a couple of sweat equity partners good creative on the creative side and X-Forto II on the development side to the tune of about 400,000 pounds. And when we had a product that was …”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 16:50
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Spoonfed burn rate will increase from £25K to £35K monthly
“Our burn rate is presently about 25 K a month. It will rise to about 35,000.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 19:44
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Biggart: Spoonfed active in over 40 global cities
“Over 40 cities across the world now have users tuned into Spoonfed.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 23:37
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Biggart: Spoonfed targets £1 million or higher EBITDA in five years
“We're keen to drive sales significantly upwards and to achieve an EBITDA around just slightly south of a million would be acceptable, but much further north would be great.”
Willie Biggart Nov 6, 2015 ▶ 24:42
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