valuation

also referred to as: valuations

22 statements across 20 episodes · 3 bullish · 4 bearish · 20 people on the record · first statement Sep 9, 2015 by Eric Ver Ploeg · across every show →

Everything said about valuation, oldest first

Sep 9, 2015 negative
Insight
Ver Ploeg: Founders should lower valuations rather than accept full ratchets
“And if you're, you know, you need to agree to a full ratchet to get the valuation that you were looking for then I think either A, you should relax your valuation expectations and, you know get better anti-dilution terms, or not raise that round.”
Eric Ver Ploeg Sep 9, 2015 ▶ 15:02 20 VC 070: Do Investors in California Outperform The Rest of The World with Eric ver Ploeg @ Recursive Capital
May 23, 2016
Insight
Kumar: Overpricing early rounds harms startups more than extra dilution
“My advice to them is to actually go for a slightly lower valuation, because whatever valuation they take is setting the bar for their next round of financing, and it's also setting the bar for what kind of exit they can have. And so trying to optimize that, I …”
Manu Kumar May 23, 2016 ▶ 13:22 20VC: K9's Manu Kumar on His Approach To Risk, Valuation & Believing What Other People Don't
Jun 20, 2016 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Rachleff: Premier VCs sustain returns because $5B companies replaced $500M companies
“Interestingly, there are about, just about as many companies worth five billion today as there were worth five hundred million 20 years ago, which is why the premier venture capitalists are generating the same phenomenal returns today that they did 20 years ag…”
Andy Rachleff Jun 20, 2016 ▶ 17:40 20VC: Andy Rachleff, Founder @ Benchmark & Wealthfront on What Makes The Best CEO & Board Member & Why Ivy League Endowments Are The Best Managed Capital In The World
Sep 14, 2016 positive
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Sarver: Outside firms should price follow-on VC rounds to avoid signaling risk
“It's generally better within the community to have outside firms kind of price and set valuations for your own companies.”
Ryan Sarver Sep 14, 2016 ▶ 11:07 20VC: Do VC's Really Hustle Enough? The Takeaways From Watching Twitter Scale From 30 to 2,500 & Why Chris Sacca Is Like Yoda with Ryan Sarver, Partner @ Redpoint
Nov 28, 2016 positive
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O'Driscoll: Market size and traction matter far more than entry valuation
“The lesson there is value is important, but market size, market leadership, and company traction are far more important and far harder to assess. Therefore, you've really got to weight your ability to assess them and your certainty and your conviction around t…”
Rory O'Driscoll Nov 28, 2016 ▶ 8:58 20VC: Why Market Is More Important Than Team, The 4 Key Roles of A Board Member & Why Founders Get Market Sizing So Wrong with Rory O'Driscoll, Founding Partner @ Scale Venture Partners
Jan 17, 2018 neutral
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Altman: Precision Valuation Debates Are Irrelevant for High-Upside Startups
“If something feels overpriced by a factor of two, and I think it's going to increase by a factor of 2000, that's okay. You know, I always roll my eyes when investors are like, well, I would pay 400, but not four hundred and fifty million dollars for this compa…”
Sam Altman Jan 17, 2018 ▶ 14:36 20VC: Sam Altman, Y Combinator President on What Makes Truly Great Leaders, Why We Will See A Compression of Seed Funding & The Future Scaling of YC
Oct 21, 2019
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VCs should not haggle over valuation for exceptional teams in massive markets
“If it's a team that has shown ability to execute, that has clarity of vision, that has an incredible product or product vision, and can execute in a very, very large market, it's not worth trying to optimize on the edges for valuation.”
Arif Jan Mohamed Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 12:06 20VC: Lightspeed's Arif Janmohamed on Why Market Risk Is The Most Dangerous Risk To Underwrite As A VC, How To Determine When to Stretch vs Not on Price Today & The $TRN of Market Cap Up For Grabs Today In Enterprise
Jun 5, 2020
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Erickson: Early-stage founders should prioritize low dilution over high valuations
“So I would say in the early stages, at least, don't worry too much about valuation. It's a good idea to keep an eye on dilution, but it's better to raise less at a lower valuation and a lower dilution than to raise at a larger amount at a high valuation early …”
Daniel Erickson Jun 5, 2020 ▶ 22:15 20VC: How To Scientifically Measure Product-Market Fit, How To Efficiently and Accurately Segment Users Into Cohorts, Why Investors Analysing CAC's at Pre-Seed Is Not Useful & How To Determine Between Customer Feedback to Accept vs Reject with Daniel Eric
Sep 18, 2020 negative
Opinion
Allred: Private Market Startup Valuations Are Paper Money and Don't Matter
“And the nice thing about private markets the way they are right now is it's all paper money. Like, whatever your last valuation was actually doesn't matter.”
Austen Allred Sep 18, 2020 ▶ 6:45 20VC: Lambda School Founder, Austen Allred on How To Assess Your Relationship To Risk and Money, Why San Francisco Is A Case Study For The Greatest Squandering of Wealth in History & Why Complexity Increases Exponentially with Scale
Jan 14, 2021
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Ghodsi: Negotiating Marginally Higher Startup Valuations Is a Waste of Time
“Oftentimes, the valuation doesn't actually matter that much. People try to get another 10 or 20% higher valuation than what they have on the table right now, but you're only raising 10% of that valuation or something like that, so actually it's only gonna make…”
Ali Ghodsi Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 15:20 20VC: Databricks CEO, Ali Ghodsi on The 3 Phases of Startup Growth, How to Evaluate Risk and Downside Scenario Planning & Who, What and When To Hire When Scaling Your Go-To-Market
Mar 29, 2021 neutral
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Fenton: Initial valuation does not matter if an early-stage startup succeeds
“If you zoom out, Harry, big picture, if the company works, if it really works, it doesn't matter.”
Peter Fenton Mar 29, 2021 ▶ 17:57 20VC: Benchmark's Peter Fenton on The Single Question That Defines The Art of Early Stage Venture, Marketing Timing Risk, Why The Oversupply of Capital Is Good & His Biggest Lessons from 12 Years On The New Relic Board
Apr 22, 2022
Disclosure
Cillufo: QED's biggest investment misses resulted from balking at high valuations
“Our biggest misses have been on this question of valuation. Love the team, love the business, love the opportunity, have a great relationship, feel like this is going to work, and then we just sort of balk at the price.”
Bill Cillufo Apr 22, 2022 ▶ 23:46 20VC: How Today's Market Changes How Companies Should Approach Burn and Runway, Are Financing Markets Closing? How To Know When To Pay Up vs Stay Price Disciplined & Why The Most Important Thing in Venture is Generating Positive Selection with Bill Cilluf
May 30, 2022
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Rabois: Entry valuation does not matter in early-stage venture capital
“The price in value, the price in valuation just doesn't matter in traditional ventures, even series A.”
Keith Rabois May 30, 2022 ▶ 37:57 Keith Rabois: The End of Woke Capitalism; Time Allocation Tips; Silicon Valley vs Miami | 20VC #891 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 10, 2022
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Gerstner: Interest rates dictate valuations like gravity affects physical objects
“Interest rates are to valuations, you know, what gravity is to the apple.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 27:04 Brad Gerstner: How I Pick Companies; Lessons from Warren Buffet; Chamath vs Gurley | E935 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 17, 2023 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Mohnot: A severe startup valuation drop is coming due to market overhang
“I think there's this overhang of valuations and we haven't yet seen the drop that is going to come and it's going to be so severe.”
Sheel Mohnot Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:12:51 Sheel Mohnot: How I Got Married in the Metaverse; Founder vs Product vs Market | E1035 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 9, 2024
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Fishner-Wolfson: Valuation price only matters in VC when off by 5x
“I think this is an interesting question because my answer is oftentimes price doesn't matter unless you're off by five X, in which case then price is the only thing that matters.”
Justin Fishner-Wolfson Feb 9, 2024 ▶ 16:38 20VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
May 15, 2024
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Siroker: Founders should concede on valuation in term sheet negotiations
“I think it's fair to give on valuation.”
Dan Siroker May 15, 2024 ▶ 32:46 Dan Siroker: Second-Time Founders Are More Investable & Why Not To Hire People Out of College |E1153 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 15, 2024
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Siroker: Asking for the highest valuation is almost certainly a mistake
“Always saying the highest price is almost certainly going to be a mistake.”
Dan Siroker May 15, 2024 ▶ 37:42 Dan Siroker: Second-Time Founders Are More Investable & Why Not To Hire People Out of College |E1153 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 15, 2024
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Siroker: VCs ask round size to implicitly negotiate valuation at 20% dilution
“When an investor asks, how much are you raising? More often than not, they're actually asking, how much do you think you're worth? Let's start the negotiation on valuation right now, because a 20% is what they want.”
Dan Siroker May 15, 2024 ▶ 0:06 Dan Siroker: Second-Time Founders Are More Investable & Why Not To Hire People Out of College |E1153 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 23, 2024 neutral
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Gurski: $10B valuation requires $600M revenue with profitable growth
“If you want to cost ten billion, we probably should achieve six hundred million in revenue and then show profitability and continue growing with the same pace.”
Dmitry Gurski Sep 23, 2024 ▶ 1:01:45 Dmitry Gurski: From Potato Farm to $200M in Revenue: The Never-Before-Told Story of Flo Health|E1205 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 25, 2024 negative
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Goldberg: Inflated valuations hurt employee morale and company performance
“When the employees know that the valuation isn't realistic, I think really hurts the morale and hurts the ability of the company to kind of do its best work.”
Mark Goldberg Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 38:56 Mark Goldberg: Why Politics is Rife & Decision-Making is Broken in Large VCs | E1219 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 19, 2025
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Singlehurst: Investor discipline means selectively paying high prices for breakout companies
“Like being a disciplined investor doesn't mean I will never pay more than X multiple, because when you find a really special company, you should lean into valuation. Now, the danger is that you can tell yourself a story that every company is a special company,…”
Peter Singlehurst Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 16:09 Peter Singlehurst: Lessons from Turning Down Stripe, Coinbase and Losing Money on Northvalt · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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