unit economics

19 statements across 17 episodes · 4 bullish · 8 bearish · 18 people on the record · first statement Jul 8, 2016 by Frank Mycroft · across every show →

Everything said about unit economics, oldest first

Jul 8, 2016
Insight
Mycroft: Focusing on unit economics too early stalls on-demand startup growth
“If you focus too soon on the unit economics, you may never get to the scale and the growth that you need for that engine to actually continue on its own.”
Frank Mycroft Jul 8, 2016 ▶ 10:57 20VC: When To Transition From Growth to Profitability & The KPI's of The On Demand Economy with Frank Mycroft @ Booster Fuels
Nov 7, 2016 bearish
Insight
Caldbeck: Local delivery on-demand models have inherently flawed unit economics
“And the challenge is when you add an infrastructure of local delivery people, the unit economics can get very, very challenging. And so you end up either in a situation where you have to charge a significant premium to what the goods normally cost, in which ca…”
Justin Caldbeck Nov 7, 2016 ▶ 15:08 20VC: Binary's Justin Caldbeck on Specialisation Being Key To Success In VC, The Biggest Problem In VC Today and Why The Future Is A Moneyless Barter Economy
Jul 24, 2017
Insight
Creating new user behaviors often causes temporary unit economic inefficiency
“If you're creating a new user behavior, it can be unit economics inefficient for some time.”
Rahul Mehta Jul 24, 2017 ▶ 10:45 20VC: Investing $200m In Facebook, The 3 Stages of Founder Development & Why Creating A New User Behaviour Can Be Unit Economics Inefficient with Rahul Mehta, Managing Partner @ DST
Sep 1, 2017 negative
Opinion
Harris: VCs care more about company size than profitability
“At the end of the day, I think everyone's just going to keep accepting this big lie, because as long as markets still appreciate size over return, they're going to continue to support these types of companies. And if you look at it, proof is in the pudding. Th…”
Tim Harris Sep 1, 2017 ▶ 10:31 20VC: What Is The Big Lie To Silicon Valley, Why Silicon Valley Is No Longer Optimised For Deep Tech Investing & Why AI Will Lead To More Business Model Innovation Than Technology Innovation with Tim Harris, Founder & CEO @ Swift Navigation
Sep 1, 2017 negative
Opinion
Harris: Silicon Valley startups break unit economics to chase rapid growth
“The big lie is fundamentally around unit economics. What I see out there in the market is people, they go out and they prove product market fit, right? They have a product or they have some business model innovation and it's going to work. The next question is…”
Tim Harris Sep 1, 2017 ▶ 8:46 20VC: What Is The Big Lie To Silicon Valley, Why Silicon Valley Is No Longer Optimised For Deep Tech Investing & Why AI Will Lead To More Business Model Innovation Than Technology Innovation with Tim Harris, Founder & CEO @ Swift Navigation
Nov 12, 2018 neutral
Insight
Polovets: Early-stage unit economics only need to be in the ballpark
“You know, in the early days, I think unit economics, it's important that you're kind of in the right ballpark. So if it takes you a million dollars to acquire a customer that brings you 10,000 in revenue, like that's not good. But if it costs you 5000 dollars …”
Leo Polovets Nov 12, 2018 ▶ 14:06 20VC: Why Warm Intros Are Mostly Dumb, Why Ownership is Built On First Check and 4 Crucial Elements To Make Cold Inbound Attractive with Leo Polovets, General Partner @ Susa Ventures
Jun 10, 2019 negative
Insight
Kupor: Reliance on paid acquisition degrades startup unit economics over time
“So if this is a heavy paid marketing business, it's probably the case that those economists are going to degrade over time because, you know, your cost of acquisition, you know, through Google and Facebook and other paid channels may be difficult.”
Scott Kupor Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 6:21 20VC: a16z's Scott Kupor on The Biggest Learnings From Scaling a16z from $300m to $7Bn AUM, The Biggest Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make When Pitching VCs & Why VC Is Simply A Customer Service Business
Dec 9, 2019 negative
Insight
Vrionis: CAC and LTV metrics are useless in a startup's first 24 months
“The growth investors, what they do is they talk about CAC and LTV and unit economics. Look, that stuff is super valuable. It's just not valuable in those first 18 to 24 months when the entrepreneur is trying to turn that idea into something real.”
John Vrionis Dec 9, 2019 ▶ 24:02 20VC: Unusual Ventures' John Vrionis on Why We Need To Raise The Bar In Venture, Why Taking Multi-Stage Money At Seed Is Not In The Best Interest of Founders & Why To Be The Best, You Have To Specialise To Be The Best
Jan 6, 2020 neutral
Insight
Jain: Pre-seed unit economics are leading indicators of market pull
“I think it's, you cannot take it literally on what the unit economics are, but I think you start to see some leading indicators on, you know, the idea of market pull that I talked about.”
Gaurav Jain Jan 6, 2020 ▶ 31:36 20VC: Why Now Is The Hardest Time To Raise an Institutional Pre-Seed in the Last Decade, What To Do When The Founder and VC Interests Do Not Align & The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds with Gaurav Jain, Founder & Managing Partner @ Afore Capital
Jan 6, 2020 negative
Insight
Stebbings: Pre-seed startups do not have reliable unit economics
“You don't have unit economics. The CAC is going to explode, or you don't know where it's going to go. The LTV is going to shrink. We just don't know.”
Harry Stebbings Jan 6, 2020 ▶ 31:21 20VC: Why Now Is The Hardest Time To Raise an Institutional Pre-Seed in the Last Decade, What To Do When The Founder and VC Interests Do Not Align & The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds with Gaurav Jain, Founder & Managing Partner @ Afore Capital
Dec 3, 2020 positive
Insight
Katrina Lake: Growth Is Most Important if Unit Economics Work
“Growth is almost always going to be most important, predicated on the fact that, you know, this is a healthy business and one where the math works.”
Katrina Lake Dec 3, 2020 ▶ 17:04 20VC: Stitch Fix Founder Katrina Lake on Growth vs Profitability, Her Biggest Lessons From Working with Bill Gurley at Benchmark and The Importance of Mental Flexibility as a Leader
May 24, 2021 bearish
Insight
Morris: Unprofitable heavily funded startups will ultimately fail
“There's a thing called the just world hypothesis, and in the end, unit economics drive P&Ls. And if your business is built on a house of cards, and your unit economics don't make any sense, in the end, your business will not succeed. And that competitor, albei…”
Nigel Morris May 24, 2021 ▶ 28:39 20VC: Why Bundling Does Not Work, How The Best Founders Analyse Unit Economics, Why The Way We Approach Mental Health in Venture and Startups is Wrong with Nigel Morris, Co-Founder & Managing Partner @ QED Investors
Jun 2, 2021 positive
Insight
Glyman: D1 Capital prioritizes unit economics over early product and team
“I think with D one, a lot of this is like, how do you build a great business? So forget a great product and a great team, but flash forward a few years, how do you think about the financial innards that will actually make the unit economics The performance. Gr…”
Eric Glyman Jun 2, 2021 ▶ 28:52 20VC: Ramp's Eric Glyman on Why You Should Never Take The Highest Price, Working With Venture Funds vs Crossover Funds and How To Determine What To Buy vs Build as a Founder Today?
Jul 19, 2021
Insight
George: Outsized growth returns come from unexpected volume, not unit economics
“The unit economics end up being sort of table stakes, right? Like you could get it wrong to the downside. It's very rare that the company ends up with, you know, unit economics that are much greater than what you expected. It's much more common that, Hey, the …”
David George Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 9:14 20VC: a16z's David George on Leading a16z's Growth Fund Today, The Biggest Misconceptions of Growth Investing, How a16z Think Through Portfolio Construction, Investment Decision-Making and Scenario Planning & How The Entrance of New Players Has Changed Th
Jul 8, 2022 negative
Insight
Chalfen: Poor Unit Economics Leave Startups Dependent on Greater Fools
“Poor unit economics mean you're always relying on the next investor and ultimately the greater fool.”
Mike Chalfen Jul 8, 2022 ▶ 55:08 Mike Chalfen: How to Build Anti-Fragile Venture Portfolios Today | 20VC #904 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 11, 2023
Insight
Rotman: Doubling revenue at higher cost generates anti-proof for startups
“But if it was harder to get that doubling than you thought, or it costs you more to get that doubling than you thought, or your manufacturing costs went up, or the margins weren't there, you know, in that doubling, you're actually generating anti-proof of the …”
Frank Rotman Aug 11, 2023 ▶ 35:24 DEBATE: State of Seed Investing w/ Jason Lemkin, Sam Lessin, Frank Rotman & Harry Stebbings | E1047 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 20, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Franceschetti: Eight Sleep raised prices in 2021 with minimal demand impact
“When we had to readjust our unit economics, we had to increase prices. We did it in 20, 21, and the impact was minimal.”
Matteo Franceschetti Nov 20, 2023 ▶ 16:49 Matteo Franceschetti: The Ultimate Hiring Playbook: Five Questions to Ask Every New Hire | E1084 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 13, 2024 neutral
Insight
Narayanan: Product-market fit, unit economics, and scaling are four separate steps
“I mean, product market fit, scaling product market fit, unit economics, scaling unit economics. I think those are all four different steps in my opinion. So I actually think that it is, ah, you can get to product market fit, but you may not be able to scale it…”
Chandra Narayanan Mar 13, 2024 ▶ 34:25 Chandra Narayanan: Top 5 Lessons from Leading Analytics at Facebook | E1126 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 8, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Staniszewski: AI model cost declines will validate weak application-layer unit economics
“The unit economics in most of those cases that you mentioned is pretty, pretty poor, but I think the strategy is that yes, one, the models will optimize in cost, and then two, they will be the brands that customers trust, and then they can actually use a lot o…”
Mati Staniszewski Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 50:20 ElevenLabs CEO/Co-Founder, Mati Staniszewski:The Untold Story of Europe’s Fastest Growing AI Startup · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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