SPAC

also referred to as: spacs

35 statements across 18 episodes · 11 bullish · 14 bearish · 19 people on the record · first statement Jul 13, 2020 by Chamath Palihapitiya · across every show →

Everything said about SPAC, oldest first

Jul 13, 2020 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Palihapitiya: SPACs allow forward financial forecasts while traditional IPOs ban them
“Did you know that you cannot create a forecast when you go public through a traditional IPO? No, I cannot show a multi-year projection of what you think the business can do. So there's all these arcane rules that you can work around that a SPAC solves.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jul 13, 2020 ▶ 27:04 20VC: Chamath Palihapitiya on Why IPOs and Direct Listings Are Broken, Turning Social Capital Into A Combination of Berkshire Hathaway, Koch Industries and The Red Cross, Why Forecasts Are Worthless, What Creates True Defensibility & Why You Have To Be Pr
Aug 31, 2020 positive
Opinion
Steckenrider: SPACs Provide Private Companies an Easier Path to Public Markets
“And so from the company's perspective, this is a much easier and straightforward way to get to the public markets.”
Troy Steckenrider Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 6:13 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 negative
Opinion
Hartz: SPAC market structure is decades behind venture capital's evolution
“SPACs follow the same pattern, but they're really just a few decades behind.”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 15:36 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hartz: A* Will Prioritize SPAC Quality Over Launch Volume
“So we don't want to get out 20 SPACs consecutively off the runway unless we can assure that there'll be 20 enduring businesses. So we'll move at the pace only that we can find the best companies to partner with.”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 29:05 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020
Insight
Hartz: Pre-deal SPAC evaluation depends entirely on the management team
“It's really only based on people, because there's no assets, there's no P and L, or there's a small, tiny L, but no P, because it's just amount of money held in trust.”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 19:11 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 bullish
Prediction Held up
Hartz: SPACs will be an enduring listing vehicle, not a passing trend
“We see this SPAC phenomenon, not as a flash in the pan, not as a quick up and down. That'll be a passing fancy of the 20 twenties, but really an enduring vehicle to bring our innovation companies to market.”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 4:57 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020
Assertion Supported
Steckenrider: Multiple SPACs have never historically combined for one transaction
“Historically there really hasn't been a transaction that's involved multiple SPACs working with the same target.”
Troy Steckenrider Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 20:56 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hartz: Fair SPAC deal terms are required to attract top-tier companies
“That if there is a fair deal for both sides, that if there's a fair deal that the partner companies really see out there, you're going to attract the best companies. You're not going to attract the B and C companies.”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 14:37 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 neutral
Insight
Hartz: SPACs target merger partners four to six times their capital size
“In general, and what the rule of thumb is that a vehicle based on the size of the capital really looks to partner with a company that's four to six times market cap. So that would be 800 to 1.2 billion, or really just going after that billion dollar sweet spot…”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 24:04 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 positive
Insight
Hartz: SPACs free founders from relying on private preemptive bidders
“They're saying that it's time to get out in the public market sooner and have a much broader audience and a much broader reception to picking and choosing investors. So you don't see these decisions made in the darkness of a one or two preemptive Bidders on a …”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 11:56 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 bearish
Prediction Held up
Hartz: Speculative SPAC deals will collapse like the dot-com bubble
“What we do see, and what we do predict, unfortunately, is something akin to perhaps the dot-com bubble in 99 and 2000, where you saw a lot of bright, shiny objects, and big flash in the pan market seeming successes, and then you'll see a lot of these coming do…”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 17:44 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020 bullish
Prediction Held up
Steckenrider: A* will adjust SPAC sponsor terms during partner company negotiations
“For our SPAC, we plan to kind of address this when we're negotiating with a specific partner company to make sure that whatever deal we end up with, we are fully aligned.”
Troy Steckenrider Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 16:05 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Aug 31, 2020
Assertion Supported
Hartz: A* launched its SPAC in 60 days with four people
“We had this org meeting on June, we'd filed in early July, our S-One flipped public in early August, and we launched and were public On August, so that's 60 days, and that's with four people”
Kevin Hartz Aug 31, 2020 ▶ 31:01 20VC: SPACs. What Are They? Why Now? How Do They Change The Venture Landscape? Are They Better Than IPOs & Direct Listings? How Should Founders Think About Them? Kevin Hartz & Troy Steckenrider @ A*
Nov 2, 2020 bullish
Prediction Held up
Eggers: SPACs are here to stay as permanent alternatives to IPOs
“I think SPACs are here to stay, and we're going to see a lot of companies using that as a alternative to IPOs and direct listings over the next several years.”
Barry Eggers Nov 2, 2020 ▶ 11:50 20VC: The Implications of a Biden vs a Trump Administration on Venture and Startups, How The Rise of Rolling Funds, SPACs and Solo Capitalists Will Impact Venture & What We Can Do To Swing the Race Pendulum in VC with Barry Eggers, Founding Partner @ Ligh
Nov 2, 2020
Assertion Partly supported
Eggers: SPAC timeline is two to three months versus traditional IPOs
“You can put a SPAC together in two to three months in terms of the acquisition part and going public versus taking six, seven, eight months to really get a company ready for an IPO.”
Barry Eggers Nov 2, 2020 ▶ 11:24 20VC: The Implications of a Biden vs a Trump Administration on Venture and Startups, How The Rise of Rolling Funds, SPACs and Solo Capitalists Will Impact Venture & What We Can Do To Swing the Race Pendulum in VC with Barry Eggers, Founding Partner @ Ligh
Jan 4, 2021 negative
Assertion Supported
Gurley: SPAC companies are more speculative with some EV firms showing zero revenue
“To date, a lot of the companies that have gone out via SPAC are more speculative than ones that would take a traditional IPO route, and you could measure that by their level of profitability or their level of immaturity from a revenue standpoint, some of which…”
Bill Gurley Jan 4, 2021 ▶ 32:48 20VC: Bill Gurley and Howard Marks: What Happened In 2020? What Can We Expect Looking Forward to 2021?
Jan 4, 2021 negative
Opinion
Gurley: The boom in SPACs is enabled by flaws in traditional IPOs
“I believe a large part of why it's Possible is because of the problems with the IPO market.”
Bill Gurley Jan 4, 2021 ▶ 33:08 20VC: Bill Gurley and Howard Marks: What Happened In 2020? What Can We Expect Looking Forward to 2021?
Jan 21, 2021 bullish
Prediction Held up
Dudum: More startup founders will choose SPACs over traditional IPOs
“And so I fully expect in the next five, 10 years, more founders to consider that route because it was not something that I had heard of and not something my board had heard of, but we just looked at it from the ground up and dissected it and ended up feeling r…”
Andrew Dudum Jan 21, 2021 ▶ 19:22 20VC: Hims Founder Andrew Dudum on Hims Going Public, The Reasoning and Benefits of SPACs, The Biggest Misconceptions of Successful Company Building & Wall St's Changing Perceptions Towards Growth and Profitability
Feb 4, 2021 bearish
Prediction Held up
Fishner-Wolfson: SPAC proliferation will lower deal quality and cause market bust
“So I think that's going to create an incredible amount of competition amongst the SPACs to get deals done. And then the quality of those deals will inevitably trend downward, which will then make SPACs, you know, look bad and they will then go away for a perio…”
Justin Fishner-Wolfson Feb 4, 2021 ▶ 29:36 20VC: Why VCs Should Care More About Cost of Capital and Less About Ownership, Investing Lessons from working with Peter Thiel at Founders Fund, Why Liquidity Aligns Incentives Between Founders and Investors & Why It Is The Last Double That Matters in Ven
Apr 29, 2021 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Fralic in 2021: The SPAC boom will end badly
“I think it'll go too far. You know, the SPAC Invasion of the SPACs. I think some of that will end badly. It's too much too quick, I believe, but in general, more public companies, more capital, more funds is good for us, and more importantly, for our companies…”
Chris Fralic Apr 29, 2021 ▶ 20:41 20VC: The Roblox Memo: First Round's Chris Fralic on The 17 Year Journey to Build a $41BN Market Cap Company, Why It Is Way Harder To Increase Ownership Across Rounds Today & What Happens Post SPACMania
Jul 19, 2021 neutral
Insight
George: SPACs only work if founders are genuinely ready to operate publicly
“The thing that I say to them always is it's a totally fine path to go down as long as it's not seen as a milestone and you're just ready to be a public company, you know, after you're done with it.”
David George Jul 19, 2021 ▶ 26:06 20VC: a16z's David George on Leading a16z's Growth Fund Today, The Biggest Misconceptions of Growth Investing, How a16z Think Through Portfolio Construction, Investment Decision-Making and Scenario Planning & How The Entrance of New Players Has Changed Th
Sep 30, 2021 neutral
Opinion
Rabois: Differences between IPOs, direct listings, and SPACs are now minimal
“That's really the role of the CEO and the board to choose wisely, but all of them have their merits and they're harmonizing a bit Where the differences are quite small at this point, and very nuanced.”
Keith Rabois Sep 30, 2021 ▶ 29:02 20VC: The Opendoor Memo: Keith Rabois on The Origins of Opendoor from a Conversation with Peter Thiel, Why Cash is Not a Competitive Moat for Startups Today and What People Misunderstand About Black Swan Events in Real Estate and How it Impacts Opendoor
Dec 6, 2021 bullish
Insight
Gurley: IPOs popping 50% to 70% are far more expensive than SPACs
“You know, everyone says SPACs are expensive, but when your stock pops 50 to 70% in the IPO, that's way more expensive than a SPAC, and so it created this window.”
Bill Gurley Dec 6, 2021 ▶ 28:36 20VC: Bill Gurley and Michael Eisenberg on The First Signs of an Impending Bust, What Happens with a Market Crash, How Do Public Markets Impact Private Valuations & The Biggest Lessons from 20 Years Investing in Venture
Apr 8, 2022 bearish
Prediction Held up
Liaw: 2022 public listings and SPAC activity will decline from 2021
“I think there will still obviously be new listings and direct listings and probably not as many SPACs. That's a different topic. I do think you'll still have some activity, but not like last year.”
Eric Liaw Apr 8, 2022 ▶ 11:30 20VC: What Happens To Growth Rounds in this New Environment? Where is the Funding Crunch? How Does This Impact M&A and Going Public? How do Crossover Funds Respond? What Does it Mean For Early Stage and more with Eric Liaw, General Partner @ IVP
Oct 10, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: SPACs Forced Innovation in Bank IPOs and Direct Listings
“They have forced more innovation, innovation in the traditional bank IPO. They have forced more innovation in the direct list market.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 1:19:33 Brad Gerstner: How I Pick Companies; Lessons from Warren Buffet; Chamath vs Gurley | E935 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 25, 2022 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Emil Michael predicts 90% of active SPACs will disband and return capital
“18 months, you're going to see dead spat. Literally, they're going to disband and give the money back to investors. Maybe 90% of them.”
Emil Michael Oct 25, 2022 ▶ 1:16:10 Emil Michael: How I Negotiated the $4B Uber-China Deal, Why DoorDash Caught Up to Uber | 20VC #941 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 24, 2023 negative
Opinion
Levin: The structural design of SPACs is completely insane
“The way the SPAC works, you build a company for as long as it takes you to build a company, you get it to a position where you think it can maybe endure the public markets, and then in that critical moment, you give somebody else who doesn't know your company …”
Joey Levin Feb 24, 2023 ▶ 0:00 IAC CEO Joey Levin: Why Value Investing is BS; The Most Insane Element of SPACs | 20VC #982 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 24, 2023 bearish
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: 98% of SPACs trade below their original price
“When you look at SPACs today, I think, like, 98% are trading abysmally below, you know, trading price originally.”
Harry Stebbings Feb 24, 2023 ▶ 24:34 IAC CEO Joey Levin: Why Value Investing is BS; The Most Insane Element of SPACs | 20VC #982 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 18, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Lacaillade: My past prediction that 85-90% of SPACs would fail was too generous
“At the time, I said SPACs were gonna, I made the comment, like, I was like, 85, 90% of these SPACs are gonna be a disaster. And it turns out I was wrong. I was too generous.”
Peter Lacaillade Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 23:04 Peter Lacaillade: Why Now is the Best Time to Invest in Emerging Managers | E1096 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 21, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Wilk: No Regrets Taking Dave Public via SPAC Merger
“Honestly, I don't regret going out via SPAC.”
Jason Wilk Apr 21, 2025 ▶ 15:40 Dave CEO, Jason Wilk: The Best Performing Fund Would Only Back YC Founders on Their Second Time · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 21, 2025 negative
Opinion
Lemkin: SPACs are at the edge of grift
“Why, why not do something more meaningful with the world rather than do something like a SPAC, which is at the edge of grift?”
Jason Lemkin Aug 21, 2025 ▶ 23:08 Databricks at $100BN, CoreWeave’s $11B Debt Bet & Nubank’s $2.5B Profit Shocker - Ep.19 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 21, 2025 bearish
Opinion
O'Driscoll: The return of SPACs indicates a bubbly market
“The fact that the structure is back is indicative of a bubbly time.”
Rory O'Driscoll Aug 21, 2025 ▶ 22:25 Databricks at $100BN, CoreWeave’s $11B Debt Bet & Nubank’s $2.5B Profit Shocker - Ep.19 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 9, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: New SPAC terms require 50% stock gain before sponsor payout
“Now, the investor comes in at 10. Until the stock gets to 15, the sponsor gets nothing, but once it gets to 15, they get a 30% promote, so it's not cheap, but it's a little better than before.”
Rory O'Driscoll Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 1:21:40 OpenAI's Multi-Billion Deal with AMD & Polymarket, Vercel and Supabase Raise Mega Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 9, 2025 negative
Opinion
O'Driscoll: New SPAC structures remain unlikely to replace traditional IPOs
“I still, I'm skeptical it'll be an amazing replacement to IPOs, but it definitely is less egregious and less misaligned than the last time.”
Rory O'Driscoll Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 1:20:07 OpenAI's Multi-Billion Deal with AMD & Polymarket, Vercel and Supabase Raise Mega Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 9, 2025
Assertion Contradicted
O'Driscoll: SPACs are exempt from SEC rules prohibiting forward-looking statements
“The SEC has really tight laws about what you can say about an IPO. Really, really tight, and you can't make any future leading statements at all. But bizarrely enough, SPACs are exempt from that, so you're allowed, because it's a merger, so you're allowed from…”
Rory O'Driscoll Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 1:20:39 OpenAI's Multi-Billion Deal with AMD & Polymarket, Vercel and Supabase Raise Mega Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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