seed stage

32 statements across 30 episodes · 5 bullish · 14 bearish · 29 people on the record · first statement May 11, 2015 by Jay Acunzo · across every show →

Everything said about seed stage, oldest first

May 11, 2015 positive
Insight
Recruiting Top Talent Is the Single Best Focus for Seed-Stage Startups
“It's far and away the best thing they could do at the seed stage.”
Jay Acunzo May 11, 2015 ▶ 19:18 20 VC 035: The Ultimate Marketing Guide for Startups with Jay Acunzo, VP of Platform @ NextView Ventures
Jan 6, 2016 neutral
Insight
Moehring: US VCs rarely invest in European seed rounds due to proximity needs
“I think in the seed stage, it's very difficult to do that because in the seed stage, as I mentioned before, you probably want to be more involved with the company you want to meet the founders you know, maybe not every week, but certainly every month and there…”
Philipp Moehring Jan 6, 2016 ▶ 11:04 20 VC: Philipp Moehring, Head of AngelList Europe on Scaling Seed Stage Funding and Why 500 Is Not Your Traditional VC
Feb 17, 2016 bearish
Opinion
Willis: A 10x return target is too low for seed-stage winners
“You know, the rule of thumb here is you want to have at least a 10 X, you know, path to, for the winners. And I think that's actually low, especially at the seed stage.”
Tyler Willis Feb 17, 2016 ▶ 6:05 20VC: Tyler Willis on How To Be Innovative With Customer Acquisition and The Future Of Innovation
Mar 28, 2016 bearish
Opinion
Patel: Series A and B rounds are uniquely hard as investors demand reality
“I'd say A and B are particularly tough because at the seed stage you're investing and you're usually investing on the promise. At the A and B, you're trying to invest on more of the reality, and the reality has to stand out from everything else that those inve…”
Satya Patel Mar 28, 2016 ▶ 15:59 20VC: Homebrew's Satya Patel on The Key Components of Being A Great VC & The 3 Main Reasons Startups Fail At Seed
Mar 28, 2016
Insight
Patel: Founder story and mission scope drive seed fundraising
“And I think the key to successful fundraising at the seed stage is really establishing that emotional resonance with an investor. And there's really only two means by which to do that. One is the personal story of the founders, right? Why it is they're focused…”
Satya Patel Mar 28, 2016 ▶ 7:25 20VC: Homebrew's Satya Patel on The Key Components of Being A Great VC & The 3 Main Reasons Startups Fail At Seed
May 18, 2016
Insight
Lefcourt: Time is the main constraint for seed startups reaching Series A
“The thing that I think matters the most in startups of getting from sort of seed stage to A is time. I've never met an entrepreneur who doesn't say, God, if I just had another six months, right? Because time's the thing that kind of bites you in the ass every …”
Jenny Lefcourt May 18, 2016 ▶ 14:09 20VC: How Startups Should React To Today's Funding Environment & Why Big Markets Are More Forgiving with Jenny Lefcourt, Partner @ Freestyle.vc
Jun 15, 2016 bearish
Opinion
Douvos: Seed-stage VC is oversaturated with capital and a poor investment
“I think today it's the, you know, almost the opposite of a good time. I think there's just so much capital in the seed stage.”
Chris Douvos Jun 15, 2016 ▶ 21:03 20VC: Will LPs Replace GPs with Chris Douvos, Managing Director @ VIA
Aug 3, 2016
Assertion Supported
Seed Pre-Money Valuations Typically Range From $3M to $10M
“Generally the valuations are within a tight band. So there's usually anywhere from three to ten million dollars for free money.”
Steve Schlafman Aug 3, 2016 ▶ 7:54 20VC: From Seed To Series A: The Due Diligence, The Valuations, The Investment Decision Making Process with Steve Schlafman @ RRE Ventures
Nov 30, 2016
Disclosure
Farmer: SignalFire refuses to take board seats at the seed stage
“At the seed stage, we don't take board seats.”
Chris Farmer Nov 30, 2016 ▶ 13:55 20VC: Why There Is A Revolution In VC, Why Boards Are Inherently Inefficient & Why Data Will Be Central To VC In The Future with Chris Farmer, General Partner @ SignalFire
Dec 28, 2016 negative
Insight
Early product is the least important evaluation factor in seed investing
“Product is probably the last thing I worry about when I think about product, especially at the seed stage or what the early vision of a product is. That helps you understand how the team thinks about the space as opposed to sort of being, you know, the thing y…”
Kent Goldman Dec 28, 2016 ▶ 18:44 20VC: Using Valuation As A Litmus Test, Why Valuation Does Not Matter At Seed Stage & How Seed Funds Can Serve Founders Better with Kent Goldman, Founder @ Upside Partnership
Dec 28, 2016 negative
Insight
Thematic investing fails at the seed stage because it happens too late
“I think it's very hard to be thematic at the seed stage. I think generally by the time you can identify a theme at the seed stage, it's probably too late.”
Kent Goldman Dec 28, 2016 ▶ 18:22 20VC: Using Valuation As A Litmus Test, Why Valuation Does Not Matter At Seed Stage & How Seed Funds Can Serve Founders Better with Kent Goldman, Founder @ Upside Partnership
Feb 11, 2019 positive
Insight
Cohen: Early-stage startups should raise 18 to 24 months of runway
“The company has, but I think at the seed stage, I would look for a minimum of 18 months. Today, I prefer two years, actually. So, sort of seed and series A investing.”
David Cohen Feb 11, 2019 ▶ 18:27 20VC: Techstars Founder David Cohen on Why Seed Investing Is A Different Asset Class To Venture, What Makes The Best And The Worst Board Members & Why Every Company Has To Have A Pessimist In The Room
Mar 18, 2019 negative
Insight
Seed-stage investor boards are an unnecessary drag on founder time
“And I think too often having a formalized board, an investor led board during the seed stage brings a lot of the trappings of From the post-series A board dynamic into the seed stage, where there's some degree of formality, there's a fair amount of preparation…”
Mike Hirschland Mar 18, 2019 ▶ 16:54 20VC: The Acceptable vs Unacceptable Risks To Take When Seed Investing, Why Loss Ratio Is Not A Consideration & Why Series A Is The Right Time To Establish A Board with Mike Hirshland, Co-Founder @ Resolute Ventures
May 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Dishotsky: Optimizing seed valuation caps between $6M and $12M is pointless
“If you're trying to value invest at the seed stage, it's kind of a silly exercise. So I think that like optimizing between a six cap and a 12 cap is really like, I just don't know that that's going to be the right way to invest. I think you're just kind of lik…”
Jon Dishotsky May 17, 2019 ▶ 13:08 20VC: How To Build True Human Relationships with VC Pre-Investment, Why Valuation Is Not The Only Term and When To Take Lower Offers & How To Approach Mental Health As A Founder with Jon Dishotsky, Founder & CEO @ Starcity
Jun 17, 2019
Insight
Hsu: Seed stage focuses on founders, while late stage focuses on business metrics
“If you think about the seed stage, right, they're really buying the founder when the investor invests. And when you think about the late stage, they're buying mostly a business, right? And then it's definitely some founder, but mostly a business.”
Jonathan Hsu Jun 17, 2019 ▶ 9:38 20VC: Why Historical Loss Ratios Are Simply Too High, Why Data Is The #1 Most Important Piece When Evaluating Effective Reserve Allocation & Why Nothing Is Truly Defensible Today with Jonathan Hsu, Co-Founder and General Partner @ Tribe Capital
Jun 5, 2020 negative
Opinion
Erickson: Seed stage is definitely too early to measure CAC and LTV
“So in my opinion, at least, seed stage is definitely too early to start measuring CAC and LTV, but they're still super important to keep in mind.”
Daniel Erickson Jun 5, 2020 ▶ 9:37 20VC: How To Scientifically Measure Product-Market Fit, How To Efficiently and Accurately Segment Users Into Cohorts, Why Investors Analysing CAC's at Pre-Seed Is Not Useful & How To Determine Between Customer Feedback to Accept vs Reject with Daniel Eric
Nov 2, 2020 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eggers: Lightspeed's 2020 seed rounds resemble Series A rounds from 2010
“When we refer to seeds today within Lightspeed, they look a lot like what we used to call Series A's 10 years ago. We've just almost shifted everything to the right one.”
Barry Eggers Nov 2, 2020 ▶ 13:04 20VC: The Implications of a Biden vs a Trump Administration on Venture and Startups, How The Rise of Rolling Funds, SPACs and Solo Capitalists Will Impact Venture & What We Can Do To Swing the Race Pendulum in VC with Barry Eggers, Founding Partner @ Ligh
Aug 12, 2021
Insight
Ann Miura-Ko: Seed investing is about developing insights, not static companies
“At the seed stage, we often say we're not investing in a company because a startup isn't a company. It's a set of insights. It's a development of a set of secrets that you have.”
Ann Miura-Ko Aug 12, 2021 ▶ 10:53 20VC: The Lyft Memo: Floodgate's Ann Miura Ko on Why Successful Seed Investing Is Not Investing In a Company But The Development of a Set of Secrets, Whether Capital Is a Defensible Moat Today &How Startups Should Approach Competition
Jun 27, 2022 negative
Prediction Held up
Stebbings: Growth capital shift will trigger unprecedented seed-stage price inflation
“And I think we're going to see the migration of capital from growth to super early, and then actually price inflation at the seed, like we've never seen it before, ironically.”
Harry Stebbings Jun 27, 2022 ▶ 34:41 Sonali De Rycker | How I Became a Partner at Accel; Type 1 vs. Type 2 Mistakes | 20VC #902 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 31, 2022
Insight
Singerman: No one can predict $100B companies at seed stage
“I don't think anybody can see that something is going to be, or they can say they've got their thesis and I, you know, whatever, but like, I don't think you can predict a hundred billion dollar companies at the seed stage. That's silly, but you can predict, He…”
Brian Singerman Oct 31, 2022 ▶ 15:43 Brian Singerman: How I Became a Partner at Founders Fund, Why We Put $400M into Anduril | 20VC #943 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 31, 2023 negative
Insight
Patel: $100M seed funds are awkwardly sized tweeners in current venture markets
“In today's market at the seed stage in particular a hundred million dollar fund is a bit of a tweener. You've either got to be larger to be able to write large checks and get the ownership that you need in order to win the best opportunities and deliver the ty…”
Satya Patel Jan 31, 2023 ▶ 23:26 Homebrew’s Hunter Walk & Satya Patel: Why $100M is Not Enough to Execute a Seed Strategy | 20VC #972 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 28, 2023
Insight
Guo: Looking for defensibility at the seed stage is a mistake
“Yeah, it doesn't exist, right? Like quite literally you're starting with nothing. And so I think that it is a like I think investors are wrong to look for it. What you are investing in is trajectory, right? And the ability for founders to navigate a market and…”
Sarah Guo Apr 28, 2023 ▶ 33:03 Sarah Guo: On Her New $101M Fund; How AI Impacts Inequality; AI Startups vs Incumbents | E1007 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 31, 2023 neutral
Insight
Nyatta: Series A Is the Most Competitive Venture Stage
“I think the A is where the elbows are sharpest. Seed, you get a lot of people coming together. Growth, you get a number of people coming together.”
Shu Nyatta Jul 31, 2023 ▶ 33:34 Marcelo Claure & Shu Nyatta: LATAM's New $500M Growth Fund; Investing Billions at SoftBank | E1042 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 11, 2023 bearish
Assertion Supported
Rotman: Venture pricing has corrected across stages, except at seed
“Pricing has slowly started to correct, but it still hasn't corrected at the seed stage.”
Frank Rotman Aug 11, 2023 ▶ 9:42 DEBATE: State of Seed Investing w/ Jason Lemkin, Sam Lessin, Frank Rotman & Harry Stebbings | E1047 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 23, 2023 negative
Insight
Rick Zullo: No correlation between seed fundraising skill and business success
“We just haven't seen a lot of correlation between the folks who are like really great at raising money at the seed stage and the folks who are really great at building a business and the people who are really great at building a business, they get pretty good …”
Rick Zullo Aug 23, 2023 ▶ 44:02 Jason Lemkin & Rick Zullo: How "Mark to Market" Corrupted Venture Capital | E1052 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Fisher: Raising too much seed capital distorts startup culture and execution
“No, at seed I don't think so. I think it distorts everything. Everything from the go-to-market model to how you hire, to the offices and the culture you're creating, it's all wrong. I, so I completely disagree.”
Adam Fisher Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 47:15 Adam Fisher: Why Small Markets are Better Than Big Markets | E1106 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 5, 2024
Insight
Tisch: Investors should pay any valuation for generational seed companies
“If you fund a generational company and the outcome is insanely enormous, you should say yes to whatever that number is at the seed stage.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 24:51 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 18, 2024 positive
Insight
Gili Raanan: Generation-defining startups are consistently expensive across all funding rounds
“And the best companies, if you look at it, were insanely expensive at SEED, insanely expensive at Series A, insanely expensive at Series B, and so on. It's, you know, it's like almost part of their DNA to be expensive companies.”
Gili Raanan Mar 18, 2024 ▶ 47:41 Gili Raanan: One of the Best Seed Investor of All Time: 1 Decacon, 7 Unicorns, 4 Acquisitions| E1128 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 11, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Mignot: Index Ventures avoids maximizing ownership during seed stage investing
“Especially at seed stage, you know, our approach to seed is, is much more collaborative. You know, the idea is we don't want to compete with people like you and, you know, and other, other seed funds and angels, you know, we want to bring them along, we want t…”
Martin Mignot Aug 11, 2025 ▶ 33:08 Index Ventures Partner, Martin Mignot: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index’s Decacorn Factory · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 9, 2026 neutral
Insight
Acharya: Seed stage is the hardest venture stage to systematize
“The seed stage is the hardest stage at which to invest, because it's easy to make one great seed investment, but it's hard to have a system, I think, for doing great seed investing, because there is, even when the people are amazing, There just isn't anything …”
Anish Acharya Feb 9, 2026 ▶ 1:14:21 a16z, Anish Acharya: Is SaaS Dead? Do Margins Still Matter? Why We Are Not in an AI Bubble? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 30, 2026 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Apr 2031
O'Driscoll: YC guidelines will become the seed revenue standard
“I predict if it sticks, the shorthand version of the seed stages will be, does this conform to the Y Combinator revenue guidelines, right?”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 1:09:35 Anthropic Raises $45B but Falls Short on Compute & Thoma Bravo Hand Back Medallia Keys to Creditors · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 7, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Frankel: Uncapped Convertible Notes Suck at the Seed Stage
“I mean, the scale of how much you have to win, right, is different based on your price. It's pure math. So, uncapped notes suck at the seed stage.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 9:26 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
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