Orlando Bravo

14 statements across 2 episodes · 2 bullish · 5 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Feb 6, 2023 by Orlando Bravo · said 12 times in 6 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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Feb 6, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Bravo: Thoma Bravo avoids IPOs because cash-generative companies avoid dilution
“I mean, in our history, we have mainly exited to strategics and other financial buyers. And there's a reason for that is the IPO for our companies doesn't give us that much in itself because our companies generate the cashflow that is needed to fund their inve…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 31:43 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bravo: Thoma Bravo holds four-hour monthly board meetings for all companies
“We meet with our companies monthly. Our board meetings are monthly from eight to noon on every one of these entities.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 37:26 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023
Insight
Bravo: Philanthropy is hard because foundation budgets contain only costs
“When I go through the budget of a company, you see this hopefully wonderful earnings coming out from all the work, and you have revenue and cost, and you can measure that. When you do a budget for your foundation, you only have cost.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 58:46 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 bearish
Prediction Held up
Bravo: Lower tech market valuations represent the new normal for years
“So if I, if you really push me, I would say, yes, this is the new normal, because I don't see investors jumping in in mass To do the same thing that in the last 18 months lost them 80% of their money. At least not in the next few years.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 16:51 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Feb 2028
Bravo: Thoma Bravo targets 12 to 15 portfolio companies per fund
“Per fund, we'd like to have 12 companies, maybe 15.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 36:34 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 negative
Insight
Bravo: Supporting 40 to 50 portfolio companies operationally is impossible
“If you have an investor, private equity or venture firm, that claims that they make a big difference in their companies, that they're there with those companies operationally, that they change them in a positive way. And you have 40 or 50, there is no way you …”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 36:39 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 bullish
Insight
Bravo: The best-run tech companies with 40% cash flow margins win
“What we can control is having the best run company in that field. And when times get really bad, the best run company always wins. Because then you'll have 40% cash flow margins. You're very well put together. You're budgeting conservatively. You're not missin…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 33:45 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 bearish
Assertion Supported
Bravo: Unprofitable software forward revenue multiples dropped from 17x to 3.5x
“The revenue multiples on those have gone from an average of 17 times forward to 3.5 today.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 16:00 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Bravo: Profitable software trades at 25x forward P/E versus S&P's 16.5x
“If you look at the public market as a benchmark for the world, and you take an index of the profitable software companies, those companies that have margins in excess of 20%, and you put them all together, on average, They trade for around a 25 forward PE, whi…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 14:41 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Bravo: Increased fund size directly correlates with reduced investment performance
“The LP community is really, really smart. And there is a direct correlation between that, that we cannot argue with. And it is there.”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 34:56 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023
Disclosure
Orlando Bravo was almost fired from his PE firm in 1999
“I felt that my career was a failure in 1999. I had come out of Stanford Business School and Law School. With what I thought was this like blue chip, pristine, right? Education and resume. And I had very high expectations of myself and a timeline for which I ne…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 8:44 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023
Insight
Bravo: PE firms cannot triage underperforming portfolio investments like VCs
“There's no such thing in buyouts and private equity as triaging your portfolio and deciding what you throw away and when you keep going, which in another way to put it is, is actually a big motivator to management teams to partner with you because you have no …”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 28:49 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 6, 2023 positive
Insight
Bravo: Competitive deals are never over even if trailing on price
“I tell myself when working on a competitive investment situation in which there is another suitor for the company or many, the deal isn't over. You could be losing. You could be behind on price. You could be losing something. Maybe your operating plan is not y…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 6, 2023 ▶ 10:56 Orlando Bravo: Raising Kids as a Billionaire; VC vs PE; Is Warren Buffet Wrong? | 20VC #974 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 9, 2024
Insight
Bravo: A $10B buyout mistake is fatal, unlike early VC checks
“In a buyout, you could be writing a ten billion dollar equity check with your partners, and you cannot get that wrong. That would be really fatal, making a mistake on something that big, which is an interesting disconnect sometimes between the technology world…”
Orlando Bravo Feb 9, 2024 ▶ 15:50 20VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
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