LLM providers

5 statements across 4 episodes · 0 bullish · 1 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Apr 29, 2024 by Arthur Mensch · across every show →

Everything said about LLM providers, oldest first

Apr 29, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mensch: Nvidia captures top AI margins while LLM margins lag traditional software
“NVIDIA is, at that point. The cloud providers are pretty much at cost LLM providers, we're not at cost hopefully, but the margin that, Are known to be lower than the typical software margins.”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 19:45 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 24, 2024 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2029
Luan: There will be only five to seven max-scale LLM providers long-term
“I do think there will not be that many LLM players. I think that there will probably be, my guess is somewhere between five to seven long-term steady state LLM providers at maximum scale, just because of the costs involved.”
David Luan Jun 24, 2024 ▶ 20:38 David Luan: Why Nvidia Will Enter the Model Space & Models Will Enter the Chip Space | E1169 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 negative
Opinion
Kant: LLM providers are in a drunken bar fight over model pricing
“I often refer to it as a drunken bar fight that's happening in our industry, is that we are, you know, all these companies are massively incentivized to drop the cost of their models as quickly as possible.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 21:17 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 11, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mignot: LLM investments will yield lower venture multiples but huge absolute returns
“The pure venture multiple will likely be lower than some of the other categories in the past. I think that is clear. The difference is that the size of the outcome and the speed of Very importantly, the speed at which the size is gonna get reached means that y…”
Martin Mignot Aug 11, 2025 ▶ 35:55 Index Ventures Partner, Martin Mignot: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index’s Decacorn Factory · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 11, 2025 neutral
Insight
Mignot: Early-stage investors should ignore poor gross margins
“Beware of gross margin in the early days. That's a mistake we made a couple of times. You know, you have a lot of businesses that in the early days have really bad gross margin. All the LLM providers were very clear examples of that. I think if that's the only…”
Martin Mignot Aug 11, 2025 ▶ 0:00 Index Ventures Partner, Martin Mignot: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index’s Decacorn Factory · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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