David Frankel

73 statements across 6 episodes · 21 bullish · 26 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Nov 16, 2015 by David Frankel · said 68 times in 15 episodes since 2015 · across every show →

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Nov 16, 2015 bullish
Disclosure
PillPack Founder Invited Frankel to Occupy a Common Board Seat
“PillPack, which is a company I'm incredibly excited about that's raised two significant large follow-on, you know, funding rounds where where the founder asked me to take one of the common seats.”
David Frankel Nov 16, 2015 ▶ 8:29 20 VC 088: David Frankel @ Founder Collective: The Most Founder Friendly VC in Existence
Nov 16, 2015 neutral
Disclosure
Frankel Passed on Two Chris Dixon Startup Ideas Before SiteAdvisor
“Chris pitched me two ideas before site advisor, and I didn't, you know, I didn't love either of them. And ultimately he didn't do either of them.”
David Frankel Nov 16, 2015 ▶ 13:48 20 VC 088: David Frankel @ Founder Collective: The Most Founder Friendly VC in Existence
Nov 16, 2015 neutral
Prediction Held up
Founder Collective Will Never Lead Follow-On Rounds in Fund II
“In our second fund, we will never lead a follow-on.”
David Frankel Nov 16, 2015 ▶ 6:23 20 VC 088: David Frankel @ Founder Collective: The Most Founder Friendly VC in Existence
Nov 16, 2015
Disclosure
Frankel Backed 27 Startups as First or Sole Check Post-HBS
“Within about three years after leaving business school, I backed 27 companies where I was either their first check or their entire check.”
David Frankel Nov 16, 2015 ▶ 4:24 20 VC 088: David Frankel @ Founder Collective: The Most Founder Friendly VC in Existence
Nov 18, 2015 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
David Frankel and Eric Paley's angel portfolio quadrupled top-quartile VC returns
“We saw that that body of that portfolio, that body of work was performing way better. I mean, four times as well as these top quartile PCs”
Eric Paley Nov 18, 2015 ▶ 9:04 20 VC 089: Eric Paley @ Founder Collective on Outliers, Inspirational Founders and Pro Rata
Sep 17, 2018 negative
Opinion
Frankel: Early-stage startups are ultimately working for Facebook and Google
“Ultimately you could say that all these startups are working for Facebook, Google, and, you know, the programmatic players.”
David Frankel Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 20:20 20VC: Lessons Learned Scaling PillPack from Seed to Amazon Acquisition, Why Investors Should Spend More Time Assessing Human Capital Risk Taken by Founders & The Right Way To Think About Capital Efficiency in Scaling with David Frankel, Managing Partner @
Sep 17, 2018 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Consumer startups without acquisition experts will fail to return capital
“The companies that are attacking consumer verticals that don't have these kind of acquisition experts will just spend like crazy will raise more and more money, and it's unclear whether they will be able to exit in a way that provides a return for any of their…”
David Frankel Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 21:24 20VC: Lessons Learned Scaling PillPack from Seed to Amazon Acquisition, Why Investors Should Spend More Time Assessing Human Capital Risk Taken by Founders & The Right Way To Think About Capital Efficiency in Scaling with David Frankel, Managing Partner @
Sep 17, 2018 negative
Prediction Held up
Frankel: Team venture investing "kills" solo angel investing
“I would never go back, ever go back to Angel. I think that that working as a team with my partners just kills Angel investing”
David Frankel Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 6:52 20VC: Lessons Learned Scaling PillPack from Seed to Amazon Acquisition, Why Investors Should Spend More Time Assessing Human Capital Risk Taken by Founders & The Right Way To Think About Capital Efficiency in Scaling with David Frankel, Managing Partner @
Sep 17, 2018 positive
Insight
Frankel: Founders taking "human capital risk" is a key validation signal
“VCs have A huge portfolio and take financial risk all the time, but I always look at the folks who take human capital risk. It's what attracted me to pull back in the first place that Elliot Cohn, I knew had loads of options. He graduated well from MIT compute…”
David Frankel Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 17:28 20VC: Lessons Learned Scaling PillPack from Seed to Amazon Acquisition, Why Investors Should Spend More Time Assessing Human Capital Risk Taken by Founders & The Right Way To Think About Capital Efficiency in Scaling with David Frankel, Managing Partner @
Feb 7, 2022
Insight
Frankel: Overcoming VC incumbency bias requires relying on unbiased partners
“Incumbency bias is real. The only way through it Is to have people around you who you feel more objective and less tainted, less biased than you.”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 27:10 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022 negative
Disclosure
Frankel passed on Remitly after Sequoia's Roelof Botha raised diligence concerns
“Beam at Mobile, Matt Oppenheim comes to mind. I loved what he was doing, and then I got into diligence, and I spoke to Rulof Buerta, who was in Zoom, and he helped talk me out of it, just talking about how difficult, you know, foreign kind of compensation was,…”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 22:56 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022 negative
Insight
Frankel: Remote VC work makes rigorous investment discipline tougher
“Doing all of this on Zoom, in some ways, I would say there's this kind of convenience over connection. So if you like getting stuff done, it's very convenient. But if you miss people, the connection stuff's difficult. And wrestling stuff to the ground, which i…”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 28:46 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective has been outright lied to only once
“It's amazing that in over a decade of doing this institutionally, we've had one difficult situation where we were out and out lied to.”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 10:41 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022
Insight
Frankel: Hardest VC transition is learning to accept partner disagreement
“I would say the toughest part of that transition for me was actually having a partner and having someone say, I think you're wrong, and really listening.”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 6:42 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022
Assertion Contradicted
Frankel: Founder Collective has backed 25 billion-dollar companies
“I've got 25 companies worth over a billion dollars, and some of them are better known than others.”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 21:57 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Feb 7, 2022 positive
Disclosure
Frankel shifts evaluation criteria toward market opportunity over founder talent
“So I keep on vacillating, but, you know, based on my subjective history, I'm over-indexing now, you know, I'm indexing more on the what.”
David Frankel Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 37:19 20VC: Biggest Lessons and Challenges Building One of the Most Successful Seed Funds, How To Manage Investor Psychology, Self-Doubt and Insecurity & The Secret to Truly Successful Venture Partnerships with David Frankel, Co-Founder @ Founder Collective
Oct 14, 2024
Insight
Frankel: Founders Fail to Cut Burn Due to Loyalty and Overconfidence
“But these founders get onto this treadmill, and it's just, it's almost impossible to slow this thing down. I think what they feel like is their, and their loyalty is to the team that they've put in place, their loyalty is to the last set of capital that still …”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 14:31 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Founders will always prioritize brand-name VC firms like Sequoia
“I think some founders still see, you know, a name in lights, and they go, I want that name beyond anything. I, if it's Sequoia, A-sixting Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name, and I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 5:51 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Insight
Frankel: A founder's first $1M in secondary liquidity is life-altering
“By the way, I always say the first million dollars, like when the first million dollars makes, like, it's binary. It makes all the difference.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:03:10 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Secondary share liquidity is almost impossible for smaller private startups
“Like in your high flyers, so in your really well-known companies, there's a real secondary market. Try to get secondary in your smaller private company. It's almost impossible. So I found secondary to be very, very difficult. Where we've done secondary, they'v…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 35:16 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective broke rules to invest $100K at $100M valuation
“In that situation, I broke every rule under the sun, and we put in a hundred K check, right? I broke my rules. But we don't do that.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 4:12 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Insight
Frankel: Rejection by a Top VC Creates Severe Signaling Risks
“You know, you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was, like, very, very serious and very smart about you just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 6:18 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective regrets selling any secondary shares in Trade Desk and Uber
“Well, Trade Desk, I regret every single share I sold. Uber, I regret every single share I sold.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:02:13 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Frankel: VCs are quiet quitting on struggling portfolio companies
“I do. I do. You know, I think it's for the entrepreneur, It's like, there comes a point where it's like, you can have, it goes back to your earlier question, you can have words, you can have as many discussions. If the business is just not working out, like, d…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 36:48 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Insight
Frankel: VCs cannot justify board seats for $500K or smaller checks
“If I'm on your board, I can't write a hundred K check. I can't write a 500 K check anymore because you need my time and you need my interest.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 5:23 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Insight
Frankel: Backing product ideas without founder chemistry is a major VC mistake
“When I look at it and I go, I fell in love with a what? Like, I fell in love with a what, but I really didn't love the entrepreneur at the beginning, and I wasn't, you know, the chemistry wasn't there, that's a mistake.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 59:31 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Insight
Frankel: Taking a VC board seat with under 15% ownership is problematic
“If you kick off and you own on a board, like, less than 15% of that company, I think it's problematic.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:10:59 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bullish
Insight
Frankel: High market heat is the ideal moment to take secondary liquidity
“In fact, in an ideal situation when there's insane heat in something that we've gotten earlier, like that's a great moment to take secondary if you can.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:01:20 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective does not worry about dilution
“We don't think about dilution much. We really don't. Our MO has been, we dilute alongside the founder. As a seed stage fund, we get involved at the beginning, and it's been a strategy, and we don't think about dilution.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:11:58 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Frankel: Running Tide shut down with $10M left, burning $3M monthly
“Running Tide, we just closed down the business. This was a carbon sequestration business, ag, literally ag in the ocean. Unbelievable business. We've got ten million dollars, and he's burning three million dollars a month.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 13:48 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Disclosure
Frankel: I must strong-arm my partners to write $5M seed checks
“I have to, like, strong arm my partners into, like, putting five million dollars into a company.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:30:29 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Opinion
Frankel: Private equity firms can add significant value to VC portfolio companies
“I used to think that PE firms were like the enemy of the seed stage, and I've changed my mind on that. We've got some PE firms in two vertical SaaS companies that I'm involved in, and their rigor, their financial discipline, and the help they've given to those…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:23:04 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Opinion
Frankel: Excessive capital deployment was venture capital's biggest recent sin
“The biggest sin of the last era has been Just the huge amounts of capital.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:04:09 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Frankel: I've had only one bankruptcy across hundreds of investments
“You know, I, I've, in a career, I've been through one bankruptcy. Like, one bankruptcy. So in a career, in hundreds of investments, I've had one bankruptcy.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:14:28 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Insight
Frankel: Founders shopping early term sheets reveal transactional character early
“I think it's a good signal to investors early if that happens. Like, do you want to be in business with that entrepreneur? So, I'd rather it happens early to me. It happens to everyone. But I'd rather it happens early to me than later on, because it was pretty…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 20:36 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Insight
Frankel: Venture funds aren't taking enough risk if they aren't losing money
“But I think it's the most unfair feature of capitalism, Harry, is the most you can lose is all your money. The most you can make is three, you know, 3000 X, right, or unlimited. If you just look at that, it is such an unfair feature of capitalism, and my LPs m…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 57:59 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Frankel: 90% of VC-Backed Founders Do Not Receive Follow-On Funding
“They didn't do, but I was, they don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 6:35 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Insight
Frankel: Investors should never sell shares in companies with real moats
“If I look back, I go, like, never sell a single thing. If you could, and, you know, people have to live and People have various desires, but if you could, never sell a share. And I know we've gone through the up and the down cycle, but great companies, compani…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 39:30 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Frankel: More ZIRP-era startup portfolio frauds will come to light
“I think they could come out. I think the era gave, you know, gave, I think, Harry, I think the era gave rise to that, unfortunately.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:16:20 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Insight
Frankel: Founders selling under 10% secondary equity face minimal investor backlash
“If you take, you know, less, 10% or less off the table, Nobody's gonna really mind too much.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:02:52 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Insight
Frankel: Backing successful second-time founders hasn't worked out due to hubris
“I would say generally founders who've had enormous, enormous success and exits come to the next opportunity with some degree of hubris. I speak about this personally. I sold my first business And I thought I could conquer anything. And they look at any vertica…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 15:22 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bearish
Disclosure
Frankel: I believed my early investment in Olo was a total loss
“I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done. We've lost a lot. This was pre-founder collective saying, we have lost our money. Like, Noah is never going to get there.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 8:04 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bearish
Assertion Supported
Frankel: Public SaaS multiples dropped from 20x in 2021 to 5-6x
“So if you look at SAS multiples in 21, 20, Where that was 20 X, and then you look at those SAS multiples as five, six X, that trickles down.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 23:31 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Opinion
Frankel: Liquidation preferences are a fundamental and fair venture capital mechanism
“Well, I would disagree with Nick, because I would say, prefs are fundamental. Saying, you should give your investor your, their money back, right, before you kind of, you know distribute the spoils to everybody. I think that's a fair tenet.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 21:48 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Insight
Frankel: Failed repeat founders who retain their team make exceptional investments
“Entrepreneurs who tried their asses off, raised money, and for some reason or another, it didn't work out. They come back hungrier. They come back, they want that prize. They want to prove. Chip on the shoulder. And if they can bring back the team somehow, so …”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 15:46 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective has completed fewer than ten secondary deals ever
“Like if I think of the secondary we've had over our entire kind of, you know over a career, I can count it maybe on two hands.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 35:00 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 positive
Opinion
Frankel: Sequoia's evergreen fund strategy was sound despite poor timing
“Well, I think the timing was problematic, right? Clearly. But I think the theory that they had, I'm impressed with them that they thought about that, and they executed on it. I think the timing was unfortunate.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 39:59 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Frankel: Pari passu terms are ending as strict preference stacks return
“And the PREF stack, like peri-passu, feels like something of the past. There's a real PREF stack coming.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 23:05 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Disclosure
Frankel: I testified to the DOJ regarding Live Nation and Ticketmaster
“I actually gave I gave testimony to a panel of lawyers for the Department of Justice.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 42:02 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Frankel: I returned millions in secondary payouts after discovering startup fraud
“I'd been paid out a couple of million dollars. The first thing Lou said to me is, you're gonna give back every last cent. You're gonna be the first person who gives back all the money, and in the end, and all the other investors are gonna hate you for it, but …”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:15:20 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024
Insight
Frankel: Seed funds cannot afford maintaining ownership in successful markups
“I, by the way, I can't afford in my fund, if I've done my job right, and you are, you know, raising your next set of capital at three X or four X, I just can't afford to actually maintain my percentage ownership.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:12:26 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Competitive market heat does not correlate with deal quality
“No, not at all.”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 1:01:13 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 7, 2026 neutral
Insight
Frankel: Seed investors must enter themes 5 to 10 years before momentum builds
“The job is to be in there five years or 10 years ahead, and it's not where the momentum is. It never is.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 40:26 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Insight
Frankel: Moderately Successful Second-Time Founders Outperform Prior Massive Winners
“And I think overall we've done a little better on second time founders who didn't do that great up front. They didn't, they did okay, right? It's life changing. Like the first million dollars is so life changing. But they're really hungry. They've learned some…”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 59:46 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Insight
Frankel: Pro-rata investment rights are generally bad for entrepreneurs
“I think pro rata is generally not great for entrepreneurs. It's a call option against you.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 31:03 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective has never led a follow-on round
“We've never, ever led another round. So we have this view of like, it would be negative correlation bias. It would be unfair to everybody if we didn't be somewhat kind of uniform.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 31:16 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Frankel: Buying top beaten-down SaaS stocks will deliver good returns
“The contrarian in me, this is not what I do, would say buy a basket of like the top SaaS stocks that have all lost huge market cap. You're going to do okay.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 44:05 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective Has Never Passed on a Startup Over Ownership Percentage
“I've never turned it down. Never.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 29:35 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2036
Frankel: In 5 to 10 years, our children will not need to drive
“Like, I think that you and I could be buying the very last drive driven cars. Like, I think that in five to 10 years time, like our kids will not need to drive.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 1:29:14 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Opinion
Frankel: Founder Abandonment and Lack of Focus Remain Rare Minority Cases
“I still see that the vast minority of the time. Like, I think it's easy to extrapolate and go, that's a trend, and I could be very Pollyannish about this, but for the most part, like, I see founders wanting to make it work.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 59:19 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Opinion
Frankel: Mega-Fund Seed Checks Are "Call Options" Bad for 95% of Founders
“Well, the problem is the mega platforms are taking call options. So is this good for the mega platforms? Is this good for the LPs or is this good for the entrepreneurs? Well, probably for 95% of the entrepreneurs, it's not good.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 22:06 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Insight
Frankel: Larger fund sizes make achieving high DPI much tougher
“And we're working for DPI, and the bigger we make the fund, the tougher it is on the DPI.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 38:57 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Insight
Frankel: Founders raised inside specific verticals possess unmatched operational edge
“There are folks who have been in these verticals since they were kids. He watched his uncle in this vertical. It's like, there was nothing else he was going to do. And I go, like, they have more edge, and they know what to do with.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 48:34 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Insight
Frankel: Junior champions leaving mega-funds leaves portfolio startups orphaned
“And the more junior, the principal at that big fund moves on. They start their own fund, they move to another fund, happens all the time, right? So the person who invested doesn't have mandate. They can't sit around with a partnership and say, look, let's just…”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 22:41 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Frankel: Heavily Funded AI Startups Are Not Capital Efficient
“There's very little evidence yet that These hot, hot AI companies that are raising huge amounts of money are capital efficient, right? They're anything but capital efficient. There's, like, the jury's out on whether that's going to work still.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 7:24 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 neutral
Insight
Frankel: The early seed-stage valuation arbitrage has completely disappeared
“There was an arbitrage. There was a real arbitrage because the risk premium at the seed stage was way overstated. That has changed completely.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 1:19:47 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Frankel: The jury is out on post-2020 venture fund DPI performance
“A little less since twenty-twenty. Like, if you look at the DPI analysis, like, the jury's out from twenty-twenty onwards.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 27:46 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Frankel: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Eventually Be Disrupted by Chinese Competitors
“That anthropic and open AI are going to be disrupted. It's like unequivocal. Like our whole careers are about disruption. Those platforms never, ever stay forever. Where is it going to come from? Excellent chance it comes from China. It's coming.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 1:15:18 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Opinion
Frankel: Founders Use Founder Collective as Insurance in Mega Seed Rounds
“I think we're being seen and I'm, I could be over extrapolating the last 20 deals that we've been involved in almost as an insurance policy. Where we're side by side, we're putting in 500 K or a million. There's been eight, nine million dollars going in, and T…”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 6:15 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective Requires 'I Love It Because' to Invest
“We have at our team meeting, I love it because dot dot dot. If you can't complete that sentence, you can't invest.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 45:25 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026
Disclosure
Frankel: Suno experienced far lower dilution than Whoop due to rapid momentum
“Like we're so proud to be in both, but sooner, you know, sooner has been a very quick journey. So if you look at like how lower, how much lower the dilution is, part of it is just how quick the momentum of that has been versus a whoop, which is hardware took a…”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 53:26 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026
Disclosure
Frankel: Founder Collective sold some Uber early near $10B valuation
“You know, in retrospect, we probably sold a little too early, so this was early on, you know, this is a business that's getting close to ten billion dollars in valuation, and there's an opportunity to take some off the table, and you're very new.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 52:22 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bullish
Insight
Frankel: Embedded, Mission-Critical SaaS Workflows Will Survive AI Disruption
“The more embedded you are, like the more difficult you are to dispense because real time, Thousands, billions of orders are being run in your system, or like mission critical biotech research is being run in your system. The more embedded you are, I think the …”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 43:30 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
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