compute

43 statements across 33 episodes · 17 bullish · 7 bearish · 25 people on the record · first statement Nov 19, 2022 by Oana Olteanu · across every show →

Everything said about compute, oldest first

Nov 19, 2022 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Olteanu: AI foundational models will commoditize like compute power
“Foundational models. I think they will get commoditized like compute, and I think the companies who deliver the last mile will be the ones to capture most value.”
Oana Olteanu Nov 19, 2022 ▶ 35:04 Oana Olteanu: Why Founders Should Expect More From Their VCs | 20VC #950 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 15, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Altman: OpenAI will surprise the world by solving its compute constraints
“By treating that as a whole system problem I am optimistic we will really surprise the world on the upside.”
Sam Altman Apr 15, 2024 ▶ 12:35 Sam Altman & Brad Lightcap: Which Companies Will Be Steamrolled by OpenAI? | E1140 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 15, 2024
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Altman: Securing compute and supply chain is OpenAI's biggest five-year challenge
“Doing the best research and the best productization of, like, the best innovation on that stuff over the next 12 months, and was it five years for the second there? Sufficient, like, supply chain and compute.”
Sam Altman Apr 15, 2024 ▶ 47:11 Sam Altman & Brad Lightcap: Which Companies Will Be Steamrolled by OpenAI? | E1140 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 29, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mensch: Mistral does not need to scale compute at competitor rates
“So, I mean, we're growing our compute like every companies. We are convinced that we don't need to grow at the same rate because there's a lot of barriers that are not compute related that are appearing on the way and that we're already seeing”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 33:29 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 29, 2024
Insight
Mensch: AI model quality is correlated with compute, not dependent on it
“Capital is equal compute. Then compute is correlated with quality. It's not completely dependent on it.”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 32:46 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 29, 2024
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mensch: Compute is no longer the primary bottleneck for text models
“There's obviously compute, but given the amount of data you have we have at hand compute is already running into is no longer the bottleneck. The bottleneck is more the data at that point. You should look at text to text models.”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 10:53 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 10, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Humanity Will Indefinitely Expand Compute Power Across All Life Aspects
“Like, we're going to be on a journey, maybe forever, as human beings, of massively increasing the amount of compute available to us in all aspects of our lives.”
Reid Hoffman Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 12:46 Reid Hoffman: The Future of TikTok and The Inflection AI Deal | E1163 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 24, 2024
Assertion Supported
Luan: Base AI model performance requires doubling compute for consistent gains
“So put another way for just scaling up a base language model you need to double the amount of compute for that language model for it to be predictably consistently smarter.”
David Luan Jun 24, 2024 ▶ 9:47 David Luan: Why Nvidia Will Enter the Model Space & Models Will Enter the Chip Space | E1169 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 24, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Luan: AI scaling will not suffer diminishing returns on compute
“The second way of improving model performance is just starting to be tapped now, and that's also going to absorb a boatload of compute. So because of that, I actually am not worried about diminishing returns to the compute over time.”
David Luan Jun 24, 2024 ▶ 0:15 David Luan: Why Nvidia Will Enter the Model Space & Models Will Enter the Chip Space | E1169 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 1, 2024 neutral
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Matt Clifford: AI Progress Has Come From Compute and Data, Not Ideas
“Certainly the last five years, but arguably longer, the story of AI is really a story largely about the deployment of just enormous amounts of compute and enormous amounts of data, and not that many new ideas, candidly.”
Matt Clifford Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 5:10 Matt Clifford: The Bull & Bear Case for China's Ability to Challenge the US' AI Capabilities | E1172 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024 positive
Insight
Cahn: Big Tech's Overproduction of Compute Directly Boosts Startup Gross Margins
“These big tech companies are producers of compute. Startups are consumers of compute. So if you believe there is an overproduction of compute and that compute prices go down, startups win because they are buying those compute. Lower cost of compute directly tr…”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 10:28 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 19, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gomez: AI requires exponential compute scaling for linear intelligence gains long-term
“Yeah, I mean, I think it certainly requires exponential input. You know, you need to continuously be doubling your compute in order to sustain linear gains in, in intelligence. But I think that probably goes on for a very, very, very long time.”
Aidan Gomez Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 6:19 Aidan Gomez: What No One Understands About Foundation Models | E1191 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 4, 2024
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Kolter: Multimodal AI data is abundant but constrained by compute bottlenecks
“There are massive amounts of data available, And I think we have not yet figured out how to properly leverage those due to either limitations of compute. I mean, you have to process all that data and it does take, we don't have current models to do this very w…”
Zico Kolter Sep 4, 2024 ▶ 8:45 Zico Kolter: OpenAI's Newest Board Member on The Biggest Questions and Concerns in AI Safety | E1197 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 4, 2024
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Kolter: AI progress faces compute bottlenecks rather than a data shortage crisis
“We are nowhere close to hitting the limits of available data in these models. Arguably, we're unable to process it because we don't have enough compute and things like this, but we're nowhere close to data limits in other senses.”
Zico Kolter Sep 4, 2024 ▶ 6:58 Zico Kolter: OpenAI's Newest Board Member on The Biggest Questions and Concerns in AI Safety | E1197 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024
Insight
Eiso Kant: Capital scales AI compute directly, but not talent or data
“What we are going to find is that for compute, dollars have a direct one-on-one effect. But when we look at data, when we look at proprietary applied research, and we look at talent, It is not as straightforward as dollars in magic, you know, success out on th…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 42:05 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 16, 2024 bullish
Insight
Hoffman: Global demand for AI compute at moderate prices is effectively infinite
“Kind of like electricity, we have infinite demand for compute at kind of, call it modest, at moderate price, pricing. So as long as we can deliver that, we will, demand will completely fill.”
Reid Hoffman Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 48:38 Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn & Paypal Founder: Trump Administration, Elon Musk and DOGE | E1239 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 15, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Riparbelli: Compute scale alone will not determine AI winners
“I think they will continue, but I don't think it's just going to be linear. Like whoever has the most compute is going to win.”
Victor Riparbelli Jan 15, 2025 ▶ 25:42 Victor Riparbelli, CEO @Synthesia: OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai - Who Wins and Why | E1246 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025
Assertion Contradicted
Ross: Compute costs dropped 1,000x per decade while spending rose 100x
“So for the last five to six decades, like clockwork, once a decade, the cost of compute has gone down a thousand X. People buy 100,000 X as much compute spending a hundred times as much. So every decade they spend a hundred times as much. So you make it cheape…”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 38:11 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Insight
Ross: Compute is a soft AI bottleneck that compensates for weak data
“Compute has been more of a less of a bottleneck and more of a sort of a, you know, soft neck or something, right? Where, when you provide even more compute, you can sort of overpower the lack of data, the lack of improvement in algorithms. So it's not a hard b…”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 7:56 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 24, 2025 negative
Insight
Morin: AI startups must avoid reselling compute and verticalize on product
“Probably the number one thing I would say is do not resell compute if you can. A lot of, you know, AI startups That are building on top of AI are trying to make a margin, you know, on top of a very big cake. And ultimately what they sell is compute. If you loo…”
Steeve Morin Feb 24, 2025 ▶ 1:14:21 Steeve Morin: Why Google Will Win the AI Arms Race & OpenAI Will Not | E1262 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 24, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Hardware bans will force China to out-innovate Western AI long-term
“They are constrained, so they are bound to Bound to do better. They can just not buy their way into better compute. So I think it hinders their success, but I think it's short term to think that way.”
Steeve Morin Feb 24, 2025 ▶ 1:09:47 Steeve Morin: Why Google Will Win the AI Arms Race & OpenAI Will Not | E1262 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 24, 2025 bullish
Assertion Open
Feldman: Cheaper Compute Has Never Shrunk the Computing Market
“There are no, there are very few examples in our industry, actually none in compute in 50 years, in which by making things cheaper and faster, the market got smaller. Market always gets bigger. Always.”
Andrew Feldman Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 33:43 Andrew Feldman, Cerebras Co-Founder and CEO: The AI Chip Wars & The Plan to Break Nvidia's Dominance · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Ross: There is no upper limit to usable AI compute
“There is no limit to the amount of compute that we can use.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 47:15 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 bullish
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Ross: Groq can produce more compute than anyone without supply constraints
“We don't have the same supply chain constraints. We can build more compute than anyone else in the world. The most finite resource right now, compute, the thing that people are bidding up and paying these high margins for, we can produce nearly unlimited quant…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:15:50 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Insight
Ross: Compute is the most predictable lever for AI progress
“Compute is the easiest knob because it just keeps getting better and better and better every year. And if I write enough you know, if I write a check for enough money and I'm willing to wait a little while, I'm going to get more compute. It's the most predicta…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 46:45 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Insight
Ross: Countries controlling compute will control AI
“The countries that control compute will control AI, and you cannot have compute without energy.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 40:31 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Insight
Feldman: AI inference growth compounds across users, frequency, and compute per query
“The greater growth of inference is the number of people who use it, Times the frequency of use. Times the amount of compute needed per use. Right? It is three different variables multiplied by each other. The problem is they're all growing fast.”
Andrew Feldman Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 26:40 Cerebras CEO, Andrew Feldman on Why Raise $1BN and Delay the IPO & Why NVIDIA’s Worried About Growth · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2025 positive
Insight
Cahn: Infrastructure oversupply in an AI bubble benefits compute consumers
“Consumers of compute benefit from a bubble, because if we overproduce compute, prices go down, your cogs goes down, and your gross margin goes up.”
David Cahn Oct 27, 2025 ▶ 15:02 Sequoia Partner, David Cahn on Who Wins in AI, Defence & The New $0–$100M Playbook · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 3, 2025
Insight
Pineau: Having AI talent without compute is a waste of time
“If you have too much talent and not enough compute, you're wasting your time, so usually like an equilibrium between those two pieces.”
Joelle Pineau Nov 3, 2025 ▶ 32:23 Cohere's Chief AI Officer, Joelle Pineau: Why Scaling Laws Will Continue & Future of Synthetic Data · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 17, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andrew Ng: No one in AI has ever felt they have enough compute
“In my career working in AI, I have yet to meet a single person that ever felt like they had enough compute.”
Andrew Ng Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 0:00 AI Fund’s GP, Andrew Ng: LLMs as the Next Geopolitical Weapon & Do Margins Still Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 15, 2026 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: Cheaper compute will solve AI software gross margin problems
“I do think a lot of these non-gross margin positive things, the good thing is they're all digital products, so they'll get, yes, time will take care of a lot of that, you know, and cheaper compute.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jan 15, 2026 ▶ 1:12:02 Anthropic’s $10B Raise | a16z’s $15B Fund: Is the Middle Dead in VC? | How OpenAI Could Go to Zero? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 5, 2026 bullish
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Lemkin: AI compute capacity and revenue have a direct 1:1 correlation
“Compute and revenue have a one-to-one correlation. So as long as that holds, it makes sense to consume every single penny of capital on all of Planet Earth.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 11:48 The SaaS Massacre: Public Market Collapse |Microsoft Lost $360B & NVIDIA’s $100B Dispute with OpenAI
Feb 16, 2026 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Siemiatkowski: Future AI will stitch components rather than write raw code
“They will become more and more standardized building blocks. And I'm, I think in the future, I'm not sure AI was even going to code that much. It's just going to pick some pieces together and stitch them together to come to what you really need, which also act…”
Sebastian Siemiatkowski Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 5:43 Klarna CEO: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 19, 2026 negative
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O'Driscoll: Compute is actively replacing human jobs
“And today, compute eats jobs.”
Rory O'Driscoll Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 0:33 NVIDIA Predicts $1TRN in Revenue: Everything You Need to Know From GTC & Anduril Lands $20B Contract · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 7, 2026
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Hassabis: Compute is AI's primary bottleneck for both scaling and experimentation
“I think compute is the big one, not just for the obvious reason of scaling up your ideas and your systems as you know, the scaling laws as they're called, you know, keeping on building bigger and bigger architectures with more and more parameters. And as you d…”
Demis Hassabis Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 3:09 Demis Hassabis: Why AGI is Bigger than the Industrial Revolution & Where Are The Bottlenecks in AI · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 14, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Midha: Coding AI benchmarks are super-saturated, yielding diminishing gains
“In, in certain domains that are well explored, like coding, for example, yes, there's an increasing amount of compute required to get an incremental gain in some eval that's super saturated.”
Anjney Midha Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 1:48 The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Rejected It | The Four Bottlenecks in AI | Anj Midha · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 14, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Midha: Compute shortages will prevent top AI labs from hitting revenue targets
“I think if there's any reason why OpenAI, Anthropic, Gemini, and so on don't hit their revenue targets over the next few years, it's because they won't have access to enough compute.”
Anjney Midha Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 48:23 The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Rejected It | The Four Bottlenecks in AI | Anj Midha · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 27, 2026
Insight
Adam Foroughi: Recommendation Systems Require Far Less Compute Than LLMs
“Recommendation system space does not need as much compute to create the output that's necessary to succeed.”
Adam Foroughi Apr 27, 2026 ▶ 55:57 AppLovin CEO: Why Founders Shouldn't Angel Invest & Why the Best Don't Need Mentorship · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 30, 2026 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: AI compute spending may decouple from revenue growth
“It's possible you look back and see that as the first disconnect from compute equals revenue.”
Jason Lemkin Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 24:11 Anthropic Raises $45B but Falls Short on Compute & Thoma Bravo Hand Back Medallia Keys to Creditors · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 1, 2026
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Enterprises Will Spend More on Compute Than Headcount Within Five Years
“I don't know about 24 months time, but I would bet that in five years the average enterprise spends more on compute than headcount.”
Brendan Foody Jun 1, 2026 ▶ 46:49 Mercor CEO: Why Application Layer Companies Have No Moat & The Cost of Hiring AI Researchers · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 22, 2026 bearish
Assertion Contradicted
Arora: Compute costs have increased 2x to 4x over two years
“If I abstract, if I step back today there's not enough compute for what the world is demanding. Unequivocally not enough compute, right? You can't buy compute. Compute is costing two to three X or four X more than it used to cost two years ago. There's not eno…”
Nikesh Arora Jun 22, 2026 ▶ 19:40 Nikesh Arora on the Frontier Model Problem: Breadth vs Depth | The Future of Token Costs · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Arora: Within four years, customers will pay for compute, not model intelligence
“I think in the next three, four years we won't be paying for intelligence, we'll be paying for compute through our nose.”
Nikesh Arora Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 38:57 Leo Aschenbrenner's Situational Awareness Blows Up | Moonshot AI Raises $3.5B at $35B
Sep 7, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Greze: One beta user racked up $26,000 in compute over five months
“There were users who were spending a shit you not like 2000 dollars of compute a month, 4000 dollars of compute a month. There's someone on the platform who'd spent in five months was like 26,000 dollars.”
Jean-Denis Greze Sep 7, 2026 ▶ 1:06:45 Town vs Instinct vs GrokBot | Why the AI Assistant Market Is Not a Bubble
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