Max Hodak
Co-founder & CEO, Science Corporation · 1 appearance on the record.
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Max Hodak is the co-founder and CEO of Science Corporation, a neural engineering company developing the PRIMA retinal implant. He previously co-founded Neuralink and served as its president until 2021.
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The record, in short
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Humans can learn to control individual cortical neurons within minutes via feedback
“If I put an electrode almost anywhere in your brain and then wake you up in during surgery, And I show you a flashing light that is, that flashes proportionally to how much that neuron is firing, at least almost anywhere in cortex. Within a couple of minutes, …”
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Everything Max Hodak said on the Y Combinator Startup Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
Hodak: Critics who call AI stochastic parrots do not understand AI
“The whole idea, like there's these things that are like stochastic parrots or glorified autocompletes, like these people just don't know what they're talking about.”
Hodak: Humans who will live to 1,000 are likely alive today
“I think it is very possible that the first people to live to a thousand are alive right now. And I think it might be many more people than you think. It's not gonna be like one or two people on earth today.”
Hodak: Ultrasound BCIs could enable digital Ambien or digital Adderall
“One of the things that I think will be possible with ultrasound is like a digital Ambien or like a digital Adderall. So can you like stimulate part of the brain to cause focus or sleep and things like that? Would not surprise me if that was possible. And that …”
Hodak: Restorative BCIs will eventually surpass baseline human capabilities
“My view on this is not that I think healthy, 30 year olds are going to be getting these soon, but eventually many people become patients. Aging is like the correlate of kind of everything getting worse. And so there's some critical age where it kind of crosses…”
Hodak: BCIs will achieve native 20/20 vision and color within 10 years
“I mean, I do think that you can get to close to native acuity, so kind of like your normal twenty-twenty vision. We're definitely not there yet, but I see a path to get there and be able to get Color and fill in a lot of the field of view. To be clear that it'…”
Hodak: BCI progress is limited by hardware, not neuroscience complexity
“Brain-computer interface research and development is limited by your ability to record and stimulate these signals. The neuroscience, comparatively, is actually pretty simple. As soon as you can record the signals, we've very quickly figured out what, we talk …”
Hodak: The ultimate end of brain-computer interfaces is conscious machines
“If the end of the quest of artificial intelligence are super intelligent machines, then I think the end of the BCI quest are actually conscious machines.”
Hodak: Internal representations in AI models closely resemble biological brain patterns
“When you train AI models, like image models or, and even language models the representations that you get inside them look a lot like the representations you see in the brain.”
Hodak: Musk founded Neuralink to upgrade humanity against AI risks
“Elon, he, I mean, he saw what was coming in AI, like, very much more clearly than many other people much earlier, and I think the implications of, like, if you gotta, this can't be a separate thing from humanity, and that needs to emerge somehow, I think that …”
Humans can learn to control individual cortical neurons within minutes via feedback
“If I put an electrode almost anywhere in your brain and then wake you up in during surgery, And I show you a flashing light that is, that flashes proportionally to how much that neuron is firing, at least almost anywhere in cortex. Within a couple of minutes, …”
Hodak: Prima implant produces normal black-and-white vision in blind patients
“The qualia of Prima is, is normal sight. It's black and white. It's only a, it's a small field of view, but it's vision.”
Hodak: Humanity is fundamentally ineffective at pharmaceutical drug discovery
“Humanity isn't very good at drug discovery. Every now and then you kind of find a thing. It's amazing. Like you find a GLP one or you find like there's every, like there's a handful of drugs that are, we were lucky to find, but it's much more common that you s…”
Hodak: Science retinal implant allowed a blind patient to read eye charts
“And with our retinal prosthesis that we, what we saw in the trial was we can take a patient who's been unable to see faces for a decade and allow them to read every letter on an eye chart.”
Hodak: Science trial achieved the first coherent form vision restoration
“As far as I know, our clinical trial was the first time ever that form vision had been, like, had created, like, a coherent image in the mind's eye of a person.”
Hodak: The human brain is almost literally an information-processing computer
“Well, I mean, the brain is a computer, and it's gonna, saying that it's gonna get me yelled at by some corner of the field, but I think, like, I think that you can take that, like, almost literally. It's a very different architecture than, like, a, like a von …”
Hodak: Neuroscience is learning more from AI research than vice versa
“But I think one of the interesting things that's come out of progress in artificial intelligence is we're seeing this big unification in neuroscience and AI. I think we're actually learning a lot from AI research, more than I think we thought we would learn fr…”
Hodak: Directly stimulating retinal bipolar cells produces images in the mind
“It was an empirical discovery of our study that if you excite the bipolar cells with an image, you get an image in the mind's eye, because that is clearly the critical processing step in the retina that you wanted to preserve.”
Hodak: Science found optogenetic proteins sensitive to ambient indoor office lighting
“What we were able to do were find optogenetic proteins that are so sensitive that they're sensitive to like indoor office lighting”
Hodak: BCI is primarily a longevity and healthcare story, not AI merger
“There's this meme out there that BCI is an artificial intelligence adjacent story and that the goal is to, I mean, you have to merge humans and machines, and I do think that there's something to that. But I think the more immediate thing here is that I see BCI…”
Hodak: Science has universal stem cells hidden from the immune system
“So we there's, it's one cell line and the, probably the single deepest area of IP on this is that we've hidden them from the immune system. So we're one of a really small number of companies that have, I think like pretty convincing, what we call hypoimmunogen…”
Hodak: Optogenetic BCI approaches rely on risky, irreversible gene therapies
“We also don't need to genetically modify the, like, your brain. Some of the other ideas out there, for example, using optogenetics or things like ultrasound, this requires using a gene therapy to genetically modify the neurons in your brain, which First of all…”
Hodak: Science's neural grafts formed biological brain connections in animal models
“But it comes with the potential of growing throughout the brain, forming biological connections all over the place. And I mean, that's what we've seen in, in the animal models. That's not in humans yet”
Hodak: BCI advances rely on consumer tech investments from Apple and Samsung
“Like BCI couldn't have done this on its own, but Apple and Samsung and others have poured epic amounts of money onto making these types of electronics exist in the world so that people like us can use them.”
Hodak: Bio-hybrid BCIs are only necessary for high-end medical applications
“And I think biohybrid in particular is only really necessary for some of like the very highest end things. And on the flip side, it will be harder to deploy for many other important medical needs and important applications along the way. And we'll probably be …”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| The Future Of Brain-Computer Interfaces · Y Combinator | Mar 9, 2026 | 41m |