Aug 16, 2017 · 27m · y-combinator

Founders of Science Exchange, Goldbely, and The Flex Company Discuss Fundraising · Y Combinator

Vanessa Torridilla · 7m spoken Elizabeth Iorns · 6m spoken Kat Manalac · 5m spoken Erica Jensen · 4m spoken
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In a Y Combinator Female Founders Conference panel hosted by Kat, the founders of Science Exchange, Goldbelly, and The Flex Company share candid strategies and insights on navigating fundraising stages, refining pitches, and balancing business operations.

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05100:0010:0020:001:23–4:26 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Panelist Introductions and Company Milestones Kat moderates the opening panel smoothly, polling the audience and asking the founders to rate the difficulty of raising their seed round on a 1-to-10 scale. The founders give collaborative, candid overviews of their early stages.4:26–6:41 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Product Maturity During Initial Fundraising Kat asks about product readiness and how many investors the founders pitched before closing. Erica, Vanessa, and Elizabeth detail their varying levels of product maturity and how practicing with peers helped refine their pitches.6:41–9:12 · The partners as informed peer 3/10 Tailoring Business Narratives for Investors Kat prompts the panel on how they tailored technical or niche narratives for investors who were not their end users. Elizabeth explains transitioning from storytelling about scientific novelty to demonstrating market size and unit economics.9:12–11:30 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Overcoming Stigma Pitching Taboo Products Erica details the awkwardness and dismissal faced when pitching menstrual products to male investors, while Vanessa shares Goldbelly's tactic of bringing nostalgic food to meetings to bypass lengthy conceptual explanations.11:30–13:45 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Identifying Key Metrics Across Funding Stages Kat inquires about identifying key metrics for early pitching. The founders advise asking tier-two investors directly for feedback and relying on early seed investors to clarify KPIs for later rounds.13:45–17:01 · The partners as informed peer 3/10 Late-Stage Expectations and Proving ROI Elizabeth outlines how expectations dramatically escalate between Seed and Series C, and Kat asks about specific hurdles faced by female founders. The panelists give balanced, pragmatic views on how business traction outweighs bias in later stages.17:01–19:01 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Data Preparation and Strategic Investor Targeting Kat asks for concrete advice for founders pitching soon. Vanessa emphasizes building comprehensive financial models and knowing all metrics cold before scheduling Series A meetings.19:01–21:24 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Targeting Investors and Utilizing Networks Kat asks how founders identify target investors and leverage networks. Erica and Vanessa discuss researching investor portfolios on LinkedIn and requesting warm introductions from peer founders.21:24–24:14 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Balancing Fundraising with Daily Operations Kat asks how teams balance day-to-day operations with intense fundraising demands. The founders describe dividing responsibilities between co-founders so one maintains business growth while the other pitches.24:14–26:51 · The partners as informed peer 2/10 Founding Advice and Panel Conclusion Kat closes the panel by asking for retrospective advice. The founders reflect on avoiding 24/7 burnout and finding peer support to normalize the inevitable chaos of building a startup.1:23–4:26 · Guest teaching 0/10 Panelist Introductions and Company Milestones Kat moderates the opening panel smoothly, polling the audience and asking the founders to rate the difficulty of raising their seed round on a 1-to-10 scale. The founders give collaborative, candid overviews of their early stages.4:26–6:41 · Guest teaching 1/10 Product Maturity During Initial Fundraising Kat asks about product readiness and how many investors the founders pitched before closing. Erica, Vanessa, and Elizabeth detail their varying levels of product maturity and how practicing with peers helped refine their pitches.6:41–9:12 · Guest teaching 2/10 Tailoring Business Narratives for Investors Kat prompts the panel on how they tailored technical or niche narratives for investors who were not their end users. Elizabeth explains transitioning from storytelling about scientific novelty to demonstrating market size and unit economics.9:12–11:30 · Guest teaching 2/10 Overcoming Stigma Pitching Taboo Products Erica details the awkwardness and dismissal faced when pitching menstrual products to male investors, while Vanessa shares Goldbelly's tactic of bringing nostalgic food to meetings to bypass lengthy conceptual explanations.11:30–13:45 · Guest teaching 1/10 Identifying Key Metrics Across Funding Stages Kat inquires about identifying key metrics for early pitching. The founders advise asking tier-two investors directly for feedback and relying on early seed investors to clarify KPIs for later rounds.13:45–17:01 · Guest teaching 2/10 Late-Stage Expectations and Proving ROI Elizabeth outlines how expectations dramatically escalate between Seed and Series C, and Kat asks about specific hurdles faced by female founders. The panelists give balanced, pragmatic views on how business traction outweighs bias in later stages.17:01–19:01 · Guest teaching 1/10 Data Preparation and Strategic Investor Targeting Kat asks for concrete advice for founders pitching soon. Vanessa emphasizes building comprehensive financial models and knowing all metrics cold before scheduling Series A meetings.19:01–21:24 · Guest teaching 1/10 Targeting Investors and Utilizing Networks Kat asks how founders identify target investors and leverage networks. Erica and Vanessa discuss researching investor portfolios on LinkedIn and requesting warm introductions from peer founders.21:24–24:14 · Guest teaching 1/10 Balancing Fundraising with Daily Operations Kat asks how teams balance day-to-day operations with intense fundraising demands. The founders describe dividing responsibilities between co-founders so one maintains business growth while the other pitches.24:14–26:51 · Guest teaching 1/10 Founding Advice and Panel Conclusion Kat closes the panel by asking for retrospective advice. The founders reflect on avoiding 24/7 burnout and finding peer support to normalize the inevitable chaos of building a startup.1:23–4:26 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Panelist Introductions and Company Milestones Kat moderates the opening panel smoothly, polling the audience and asking the founders to rate the difficulty of raising their seed round on a 1-to-10 scale. The founders give collaborative, candid overviews of their early stages.4:26–6:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Product Maturity During Initial Fundraising Kat asks about product readiness and how many investors the founders pitched before closing. Erica, Vanessa, and Elizabeth detail their varying levels of product maturity and how practicing with peers helped refine their pitches.6:41–9:12 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Tailoring Business Narratives for Investors Kat prompts the panel on how they tailored technical or niche narratives for investors who were not their end users. Elizabeth explains transitioning from storytelling about scientific novelty to demonstrating market size and unit economics.9:12–11:30 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Overcoming Stigma Pitching Taboo Products Erica details the awkwardness and dismissal faced when pitching menstrual products to male investors, while Vanessa shares Goldbelly's tactic of bringing nostalgic food to meetings to bypass lengthy conceptual explanations.11:30–13:45 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Identifying Key Metrics Across Funding Stages Kat inquires about identifying key metrics for early pitching. The founders advise asking tier-two investors directly for feedback and relying on early seed investors to clarify KPIs for later rounds.13:45–17:01 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Late-Stage Expectations and Proving ROI Elizabeth outlines how expectations dramatically escalate between Seed and Series C, and Kat asks about specific hurdles faced by female founders. The panelists give balanced, pragmatic views on how business traction outweighs bias in later stages.17:01–19:01 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Data Preparation and Strategic Investor Targeting Kat asks for concrete advice for founders pitching soon. Vanessa emphasizes building comprehensive financial models and knowing all metrics cold before scheduling Series A meetings.19:01–21:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Targeting Investors and Utilizing Networks Kat asks how founders identify target investors and leverage networks. Erica and Vanessa discuss researching investor portfolios on LinkedIn and requesting warm introductions from peer founders.21:24–24:14 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Balancing Fundraising with Daily Operations Kat asks how teams balance day-to-day operations with intense fundraising demands. The founders describe dividing responsibilities between co-founders so one maintains business growth while the other pitches.24:14–26:51 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Founding Advice and Panel Conclusion Kat closes the panel by asking for retrospective advice. The founders reflect on avoiding 24/7 burnout and finding peer support to normalize the inevitable chaos of building a startup.1:23–4:26 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Panelist Introductions and Company Milestones Kat moderates the opening panel smoothly, polling the audience and asking the founders to rate the difficulty of raising their seed round on a 1-to-10 scale. The founders give collaborative, candid overviews of their early stages.4:26–6:41 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Product Maturity During Initial Fundraising Kat asks about product readiness and how many investors the founders pitched before closing. Erica, Vanessa, and Elizabeth detail their varying levels of product maturity and how practicing with peers helped refine their pitches.6:41–9:12 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Tailoring Business Narratives for Investors Kat prompts the panel on how they tailored technical or niche narratives for investors who were not their end users. Elizabeth explains transitioning from storytelling about scientific novelty to demonstrating market size and unit economics.9:12–11:30 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Overcoming Stigma Pitching Taboo Products Erica details the awkwardness and dismissal faced when pitching menstrual products to male investors, while Vanessa shares Goldbelly's tactic of bringing nostalgic food to meetings to bypass lengthy conceptual explanations.11:30–13:45 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Identifying Key Metrics Across Funding Stages Kat inquires about identifying key metrics for early pitching. The founders advise asking tier-two investors directly for feedback and relying on early seed investors to clarify KPIs for later rounds.13:45–17:01 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Late-Stage Expectations and Proving ROI Elizabeth outlines how expectations dramatically escalate between Seed and Series C, and Kat asks about specific hurdles faced by female founders. The panelists give balanced, pragmatic views on how business traction outweighs bias in later stages.17:01–19:01 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Data Preparation and Strategic Investor Targeting Kat asks for concrete advice for founders pitching soon. Vanessa emphasizes building comprehensive financial models and knowing all metrics cold before scheduling Series A meetings.19:01–21:24 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Targeting Investors and Utilizing Networks Kat asks how founders identify target investors and leverage networks. Erica and Vanessa discuss researching investor portfolios on LinkedIn and requesting warm introductions from peer founders.21:24–24:14 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Balancing Fundraising with Daily Operations Kat asks how teams balance day-to-day operations with intense fundraising demands. The founders describe dividing responsibilities between co-founders so one maintains business growth while the other pitches.24:14–26:51 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Founding Advice and Panel Conclusion Kat closes the panel by asking for retrospective advice. The founders reflect on avoiding 24/7 burnout and finding peer support to normalize the inevitable chaos of building a startup.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:35 Erica calls out dismissive male investor reactions

Erica frankly criticizes male investors who avoided engaging directly with a feminine hygiene pitch and deflected by suggesting they ask their wives or assistants.

Hardest push from the partners ▶ 14:39 Kat prompts panelists on female founder funding disparities

Kat directly introduces the harsh industry funding statistics for female founders, pushing the panelists to address gender-specific barriers head-on.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:28 Elizabeth explains why cool science stories fail to raise money

Elizabeth educates the audience on why impressive technical milestones like NASA projects fail as investor narratives unless tied directly to market size and economic return.

The partners hold their own ▶ 6:40 Kat frames the demographic disconnect in venture pitching

Kat articulates the structural communication challenge startup founders face when pitching products to demographic groups entirely outside their user base.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe partners as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe partners pushing backWhy
Panelist Introductions and Company Milestones 2000 Kat moderates the opening panel smoothly, polling the audience and asking the founders to rate the difficulty of raising their seed round on a 1-to-10 scale. The founders give collaborative, candid overviews of their early stages.
Product Maturity During Initial Fundraising 2100 Kat asks about product readiness and how many investors the founders pitched before closing. Erica, Vanessa, and Elizabeth detail their varying levels of product maturity and how practicing with peers helped refine their pitches.
Tailoring Business Narratives for Investors 3200 Kat prompts the panel on how they tailored technical or niche narratives for investors who were not their end users. Elizabeth explains transitioning from storytelling about scientific novelty to demonstrating market size and unit economics.
Overcoming Stigma Pitching Taboo Products 2210 Erica details the awkwardness and dismissal faced when pitching menstrual products to male investors, while Vanessa shares Goldbelly's tactic of bringing nostalgic food to meetings to bypass lengthy conceptual explanations.
Identifying Key Metrics Across Funding Stages 2100 Kat inquires about identifying key metrics for early pitching. The founders advise asking tier-two investors directly for feedback and relying on early seed investors to clarify KPIs for later rounds.
Late-Stage Expectations and Proving ROI 3200 Elizabeth outlines how expectations dramatically escalate between Seed and Series C, and Kat asks about specific hurdles faced by female founders. The panelists give balanced, pragmatic views on how business traction outweighs bias in later stages.
Data Preparation and Strategic Investor Targeting 2100 Kat asks for concrete advice for founders pitching soon. Vanessa emphasizes building comprehensive financial models and knowing all metrics cold before scheduling Series A meetings.
Targeting Investors and Utilizing Networks 2100 Kat asks how founders identify target investors and leverage networks. Erica and Vanessa discuss researching investor portfolios on LinkedIn and requesting warm introductions from peer founders.
Balancing Fundraising with Daily Operations 2100 Kat asks how teams balance day-to-day operations with intense fundraising demands. The founders describe dividing responsibilities between co-founders so one maintains business growth while the other pitches.
Founding Advice and Panel Conclusion 2100 Kat closes the panel by asking for retrospective advice. The founders reflect on avoiding 24/7 burnout and finding peer support to normalize the inevitable chaos of building a startup.

Statements from this episode (9)

Insight
Jensen: The first check is the hardest to close in fundraising
“I think the first check is the hardest check you're ever going to close, and that was for sure a really solid nine. And everything beyond that was kind of a four.”
Erica Jensen Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 4:15
Insight
Jensen: Fundraising is like hiring because founders must align with investors
“Fundraising is a lot like hiring. Like, you really want to align yourself with people that you want to continue working with, and that you genuinely like.”
Erica Jensen Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 5:25
Assertion Supported
Iorns: NASA used Science Exchange for the blackest material ever measured
“NASA used science exchange to develop the blackest material ever measured.”
Elizabeth Iorns Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 8:37
Insight
Jensen: Do not make Sequoia your first pitch meeting
“If Sequoia is your, like, super hot dream boat, don't set that up as your first meeting. Go in to, like, find an angel that you're also interested in, but, like, it's not your number one pick, and start practicing there, and ask them, like, what metrics do you…”
Erica Jensen Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 11:44
Assertion Partly supported
Iorns: The median Series A has grown to nearly $10 million
“When we raised our Series A, we, our Series A was like three or four million dollars, and that was great. That was like totally normal back then, and now I think the median is close to ten million.”
Elizabeth Iorns Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 13:45
Insight
Jensen: Assuming fundraising is harder for women concedes the upper hand
“You don't want to go into a negotiation or into a meeting thinking like, oh, this is going to be harder for me because I'm a woman, because you're giving that person the upper hand.”
Erica Jensen Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 15:17
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Torrivilla: Goldbelly reached profitability before raising its Series A
“The reason we did it pretty quickly is because we had gotten profitable before we went out for a Series A, which I forgot to mention.”
Vanessa Torridilla Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 23:17
Insight
Torrivilla: Profitability gives startups leverage for faster fundraising
“If you've already worked out your unit economics and you, you've become profitable, then, you know, you have a little bit more leverage to have, you know, I feel like a faster, ah, fundraise process.”
Vanessa Torridilla Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 23:27
Insight
Torrivilla: Working 24/7 actually slows your company down
“What you don't realize is that you can burn out if you're just working 24 seven. If what, if you leave work and go home and continue to work, you're not gonna make better decisions for your company. It's actually gonna slow you down.”
Vanessa Torridilla Aug 16, 2017 ▶ 24:52
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