scaling laws

also referred to as: scaling law

9 statements across 5 episodes · 7 bullish · 0 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Nov 1, 2024 by Sarah Friar · across every show →

Everything said about scaling laws, oldest first

Nov 1, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Friar: OpenAI expects each successive frontier model to scale 10x
“But I think there is no denying that you are, we're on a scaling law right now where orders of magnitude matter. The next model is going to be an order of magnitude bigger and the next one on and on. And so that does make it very capital intensive.”
Sarah Friar Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 1:22 The 10 Trillion Parameter AI Model With 300 IQ · Y Combinator
Jan 31, 2025
Insight
McGrew: Initial AI breakthroughs are completely separate from scaling laws
“Just getting to that point where it's sort of plausibly begins to work is, is a huge, difficult problem. And it's completely separate from using scaling laws. Now, once you get it to work, that's when scaling laws come into play.”
Bob McGrew Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 10:20 Bob McGrew: AI Agents And The Path To AGI · Y Combinator
Jun 25, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Nadella: Inference-time compute adds another massive AI scaling law
“Then this inference time compute seems to have really added in another massive scaling law.”
Satya Nadella Jun 25, 2025 ▶ 16:10 Satya Nadella: Microsoft's AI Bets, Hyperscaling, Quantum Computing Breakthroughs · Y Combinator
Jul 29, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kaplan: AI scaling curves point smoothly toward human-level AGI
“I think that scaling Really suggests a kind of smooth curve towards what I expect is kind of human level AI or AGI.”
Jared Kaplan Jul 29, 2025 ▶ 17:31 Scaling and the Road to Human-Level AI | Anthropic Co-founder Jared Kaplan · Y Combinator
Jul 29, 2025 bullish
Insight
Kaplan: Broken scaling laws usually signal flawed training setups, not fundamental limits
“If scaling laws are failing, it's because we've screwed up AI training in some way. Maybe we got, ah, we got the architecture of the neural network wrong, or there's some bottleneck in training that we don't see, or there's some problem with Precision and the …”
Jared Kaplan Jul 29, 2025 ▶ 30:29 Scaling and the Road to Human-Level AI | Anthropic Co-founder Jared Kaplan · Y Combinator
Jul 29, 2025
Insight
Kaplan: The holy grail of scaling laws is improving the slope
“I think with scaling laws, the holy grail is finding a better slope to the scaling law, because that means that as you put in more compute, you're going to get a bigger and bigger advantage over other AI developers.”
Jared Kaplan Jul 29, 2025 ▶ 27:13 Scaling and the Road to Human-Level AI | Anthropic Co-founder Jared Kaplan · Y Combinator
Jul 29, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Kaplan: Scaling laws apply to reinforcement learning in AI training
“You can see scaling laws in the reinforcement learning phase of AI training.”
Jared Kaplan Jul 29, 2025 ▶ 6:15 Scaling and the Road to Human-Level AI | Anthropic Co-founder Jared Kaplan · Y Combinator
Sep 30, 2025 bullish
Insight
Joseph: Reinforcement learning exhibits scaling laws where compute yields better models
“You can get pretty big wins from RL. You sort of have another set of scaling laws. It's like you put more and more compute into RL, you can get better and better models out of that.”
Nick Joseph Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 29:15 Anthropic Head of Pretraining on Scaling Laws, Compute, and the Future of AI · Y Combinator
Sep 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Joseph: AI scaling laws predictably quantify loss reductions from compute and data
“There's this idea of scaling laws, which is that you can actually quantify, like, as you put in more compute, more, more data, more parameters, you get models in a very, you got a lower loss, a better prediction of the next word in a very predictable way.”
Nick Joseph Sep 30, 2025 ▶ 4:36 Anthropic Head of Pretraining on Scaling Laws, Compute, and the Future of AI · Y Combinator
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