Dota 2

7 statements across 2 episodes · 4 bullish · 0 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Nov 8, 2017 by Szymon Sidor · said 30 times in 7 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Nov 8, 2017 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Sidor: OpenAI's RL bot beat its hand-coded bot after one to two weeks
“So I leave, there is nothing, I come back, there is this reinforcement learning bot, and actually, it's beating our scripted bot after, like a week worth of engineering effort. Possibly it was two weeks, but it was something very miniature compared to the deve…”
Szymon Sidor Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 18:51 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Nov 8, 2017
Assertion Supported
Sidor: OpenAI ran 50-computer LAN party where humans found bot exploits
“There was a point after the event where we set up this big LAN party where we had, like, 50 computers running the bot. We kind of unleashed this swarm of humans to kind of add our bot. And they find, found all the exploits”
Szymon Sidor Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 29:19 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Nov 8, 2017 positive
Assertion Supported
Brockman: OpenAI's hybrid bot defeated pro player Arteezy 3-0
“We first played our TZ who showed up on, on our switch bot, you know, kind of the Franken bot. And you know, that beat him three times.”
Greg Brockman Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 41:39 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Nov 8, 2017 positive
Assertion Supported
OpenAI Dota bot learned baiting behavior without explicit reward incentives
“It was like one of the major examples, one of the major examples of the things that we kind of didn't have explicit incentive for, and yet the bot actually learned them.”
Szymon Sidor Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 38:46 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Nov 8, 2017 neutral
Disclosure
OpenAI downloaded 2TB of Dota 2 replays daily before filtering
“Originally, we were downloading all of them every day, and realized that was about two terabytes worth of data a day. That adds up quite quickly, so we ended up filtering down to the sort of most expert players.”
Greg Brockman Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 15:01 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Nov 8, 2017 neutral
Disclosure
Brockman: OpenAI chose Dota 2 after League lacked Linux support and API
“Actually the way that we selected the game was we went on, on Twitch and just looked down the list of most popular games in the world and starting, you know, number one is League of Legends. The thing about League of Legends is it doesn't run on Linux and it d…”
Greg Brockman Nov 8, 2017 ▶ 8:17 Building Dota Bots That Beat Pros - OpenAI's Greg Brockman, Szymon Sidor, and Sam Altman · Y Combinator
Jan 31, 2025 positive
Insight
McGrew: Solving Dota 2 proved scale enables AI generalization
“And there was real insight that was generated there, which was that it really strengthened our belief that scale was the path to improving artificial intelligence. That with Dota two, the secret idea was that we could take huge amounts of experience and feed i…”
Bob McGrew Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 3:29 Bob McGrew: AI Agents And The Path To AGI · Y Combinator
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