Arpan Nanavati, founder and CEO of legal AI startup Symfony, explains how traditional professional services pricing and delivery structures exclude small and medium-sized businesses.
“Services as an industry today is about a 20 trillion dollar market but most of that is consumed by larger corporations or HMX with small to medium sized businesses not really having an ability to reach higher quality services, in our case legal services.”
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