Apr 2, 2024 · 39m · we-live-to-build

They Put In $0 Salary and Still Own a Third of Every Fund

Kyle Kodawiski · 24m spoken Sean Weisbrot · 11m spoken
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In this in-depth interview, host Sean Weisbrot and Web Street Operations Manager Kyle Kodawiski explain how fractional investment vehicles allow accredited investors to gain passive, diversified exposure to cash-flowing online businesses. They explore fund structuring, operator alignment, risk mitigation protocols, and the maturation of internet enterprises into a viable digital real estate asset class.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Sean holds 32.9% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Sean as informed peer 4.0 Guest teaching 2.3 Guest disagreement 0.7 Sean pushing back 1.6
05100:0010:0020:0030:001:36–6:11 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Web Street's Core Model: Democratizing Digital Business Ownership Sean asks exploratory questions comparing fractional online business investing through SPVs and LLCs with public equity markets. Kyle explains the fund structure, quarterly distributions, and profit splits in an educational, collaborative manner.6:12–8:30 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 Fee Distribution, Skin in the Game, and Investor Reporting Sean pushes back on the two-thirds split, noting standard funds typically give 80% to LPs. Kyle clarifies that the one-third management split is divided between Web Street (10%) and the operator (23%), who receives no salary and puts in 5% equity skin in the game.8:33–12:25 · Sean as informed peer 6/10 Capital Management: Retaining Working Capital to Sustain Growth Sean introduces a concrete personal case where excessive profit distributions hindered an e-commerce liquidation company's growth. Kyle responds by detailing how Web Street actively manages working capital and withholds cash distributions when inventory buffers are needed.12:26–14:43 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Asset Classes: Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and Content Portfolios Kyle reviews the primary online business models targetted by the platform including Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and content sites. Sean acknowledges familiarity with the mechanics and keeps the flow conversational.14:46–19:34 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 Operator Vetting, Fund Execution, and Capital Protection Sean probes the practical risks of deal execution, asking what happens if fundraising takes too long and targeted assets are lost. Kyle explains their 90-day deployment window and safety mechanism of returning capital with accrued interest.19:35–22:32 · Sean as informed peer 2/10 Mid-Roll Interlude: Host Subscription and Engagement Appeal Sean delivers a mid-roll subscription appeal for the podcast, followed by informal banter on interest rate environments and high-risk crypto returns.22:33–24:41 · Sean as informed peer 2/10 The Digital Real Estate Opportunity and Target Investor Profile Kyle outlines the long-term vision of digital real estate as an alternative asset class and describes the typical entrepreneurial investor persona. Sean facilitates with open-ended prompts.24:42–28:34 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 Operator Communication Protocols and Strategic Resource Networks Sean inquires whether investors can establish direct lines of communication with fund operators to offer strategic industry connections. Kyle explains the need to protect operators from investor overload while Sean shares his advisory experience.28:34–34:36 · Sean as informed peer 6/10 Platform Milestones, Exit Strategies, and M&A Dynamics Sean showcases significant domain knowledge regarding M&A brokerage fees, advisory valuations, and cross-border deal structuring. Kyle agrees with Sean's points regarding white-glove migration services and brokerage value.34:38–37:59 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 Due Diligence Essentials and Regulatory Referral Frameworks Kyle emphasizes the necessity of rigorous investor due diligence. Sean asks specifically about referral commissions, and Kyle clarifies that regulatory SEC broker-dealer restrictions prevent cash kickbacks.38:00–39:35 · Sean as informed peer 1/10 Life Lessons: Engineering Transitions, Intentional Lifestyle, and Risk Sean closes with a reflective question about life lessons. Kyle recounts transitioning from corporate engineering into entrepreneurial investing and managing calculated risks.1:36–6:11 · Guest teaching 3/10 Web Street's Core Model: Democratizing Digital Business Ownership Sean asks exploratory questions comparing fractional online business investing through SPVs and LLCs with public equity markets. Kyle explains the fund structure, quarterly distributions, and profit splits in an educational, collaborative manner.6:12–8:30 · Guest teaching 4/10 Fee Distribution, Skin in the Game, and Investor Reporting Sean pushes back on the two-thirds split, noting standard funds typically give 80% to LPs. Kyle clarifies that the one-third management split is divided between Web Street (10%) and the operator (23%), who receives no salary and puts in 5% equity skin in the game.8:33–12:25 · Guest teaching 2/10 Capital Management: Retaining Working Capital to Sustain Growth Sean introduces a concrete personal case where excessive profit distributions hindered an e-commerce liquidation company's growth. Kyle responds by detailing how Web Street actively manages working capital and withholds cash distributions when inventory buffers are needed.12:26–14:43 · Guest teaching 2/10 Asset Classes: Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and Content Portfolios Kyle reviews the primary online business models targetted by the platform including Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and content sites. Sean acknowledges familiarity with the mechanics and keeps the flow conversational.14:46–19:34 · Guest teaching 3/10 Operator Vetting, Fund Execution, and Capital Protection Sean probes the practical risks of deal execution, asking what happens if fundraising takes too long and targeted assets are lost. Kyle explains their 90-day deployment window and safety mechanism of returning capital with accrued interest.19:35–22:32 · Guest teaching 1/10 Mid-Roll Interlude: Host Subscription and Engagement Appeal Sean delivers a mid-roll subscription appeal for the podcast, followed by informal banter on interest rate environments and high-risk crypto returns.22:33–24:41 · Guest teaching 2/10 The Digital Real Estate Opportunity and Target Investor Profile Kyle outlines the long-term vision of digital real estate as an alternative asset class and describes the typical entrepreneurial investor persona. Sean facilitates with open-ended prompts.24:42–28:34 · Guest teaching 3/10 Operator Communication Protocols and Strategic Resource Networks Sean inquires whether investors can establish direct lines of communication with fund operators to offer strategic industry connections. Kyle explains the need to protect operators from investor overload while Sean shares his advisory experience.28:34–34:36 · Guest teaching 1/10 Platform Milestones, Exit Strategies, and M&A Dynamics Sean showcases significant domain knowledge regarding M&A brokerage fees, advisory valuations, and cross-border deal structuring. Kyle agrees with Sean's points regarding white-glove migration services and brokerage value.34:38–37:59 · Guest teaching 4/10 Due Diligence Essentials and Regulatory Referral Frameworks Kyle emphasizes the necessity of rigorous investor due diligence. Sean asks specifically about referral commissions, and Kyle clarifies that regulatory SEC broker-dealer restrictions prevent cash kickbacks.38:00–39:35 · Guest teaching 0/10 Life Lessons: Engineering Transitions, Intentional Lifestyle, and Risk Sean closes with a reflective question about life lessons. Kyle recounts transitioning from corporate engineering into entrepreneurial investing and managing calculated risks.1:36–6:11 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Web Street's Core Model: Democratizing Digital Business Ownership Sean asks exploratory questions comparing fractional online business investing through SPVs and LLCs with public equity markets. Kyle explains the fund structure, quarterly distributions, and profit splits in an educational, collaborative manner.6:12–8:30 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Fee Distribution, Skin in the Game, and Investor Reporting Sean pushes back on the two-thirds split, noting standard funds typically give 80% to LPs. Kyle clarifies that the one-third management split is divided between Web Street (10%) and the operator (23%), who receives no salary and puts in 5% equity skin in the game.8:33–12:25 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Capital Management: Retaining Working Capital to Sustain Growth Sean introduces a concrete personal case where excessive profit distributions hindered an e-commerce liquidation company's growth. Kyle responds by detailing how Web Street actively manages working capital and withholds cash distributions when inventory buffers are needed.12:26–14:43 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Asset Classes: Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and Content Portfolios Kyle reviews the primary online business models targetted by the platform including Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and content sites. Sean acknowledges familiarity with the mechanics and keeps the flow conversational.14:46–19:34 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Operator Vetting, Fund Execution, and Capital Protection Sean probes the practical risks of deal execution, asking what happens if fundraising takes too long and targeted assets are lost. Kyle explains their 90-day deployment window and safety mechanism of returning capital with accrued interest.19:35–22:32 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Mid-Roll Interlude: Host Subscription and Engagement Appeal Sean delivers a mid-roll subscription appeal for the podcast, followed by informal banter on interest rate environments and high-risk crypto returns.22:33–24:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Digital Real Estate Opportunity and Target Investor Profile Kyle outlines the long-term vision of digital real estate as an alternative asset class and describes the typical entrepreneurial investor persona. Sean facilitates with open-ended prompts.24:42–28:34 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Operator Communication Protocols and Strategic Resource Networks Sean inquires whether investors can establish direct lines of communication with fund operators to offer strategic industry connections. Kyle explains the need to protect operators from investor overload while Sean shares his advisory experience.28:34–34:36 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Platform Milestones, Exit Strategies, and M&A Dynamics Sean showcases significant domain knowledge regarding M&A brokerage fees, advisory valuations, and cross-border deal structuring. Kyle agrees with Sean's points regarding white-glove migration services and brokerage value.34:38–37:59 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Due Diligence Essentials and Regulatory Referral Frameworks Kyle emphasizes the necessity of rigorous investor due diligence. Sean asks specifically about referral commissions, and Kyle clarifies that regulatory SEC broker-dealer restrictions prevent cash kickbacks.38:00–39:35 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Life Lessons: Engineering Transitions, Intentional Lifestyle, and Risk Sean closes with a reflective question about life lessons. Kyle recounts transitioning from corporate engineering into entrepreneurial investing and managing calculated risks.1:36–6:11 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Web Street's Core Model: Democratizing Digital Business Ownership Sean asks exploratory questions comparing fractional online business investing through SPVs and LLCs with public equity markets. Kyle explains the fund structure, quarterly distributions, and profit splits in an educational, collaborative manner.6:12–8:30 · Sean pushing back 4/10 Fee Distribution, Skin in the Game, and Investor Reporting Sean pushes back on the two-thirds split, noting standard funds typically give 80% to LPs. Kyle clarifies that the one-third management split is divided between Web Street (10%) and the operator (23%), who receives no salary and puts in 5% equity skin in the game.8:33–12:25 · Sean pushing back 2/10 Capital Management: Retaining Working Capital to Sustain Growth Sean introduces a concrete personal case where excessive profit distributions hindered an e-commerce liquidation company's growth. Kyle responds by detailing how Web Street actively manages working capital and withholds cash distributions when inventory buffers are needed.12:26–14:43 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Asset Classes: Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and Content Portfolios Kyle reviews the primary online business models targetted by the platform including Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and content sites. Sean acknowledges familiarity with the mechanics and keeps the flow conversational.14:46–19:34 · Sean pushing back 4/10 Operator Vetting, Fund Execution, and Capital Protection Sean probes the practical risks of deal execution, asking what happens if fundraising takes too long and targeted assets are lost. Kyle explains their 90-day deployment window and safety mechanism of returning capital with accrued interest.19:35–22:32 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Mid-Roll Interlude: Host Subscription and Engagement Appeal Sean delivers a mid-roll subscription appeal for the podcast, followed by informal banter on interest rate environments and high-risk crypto returns.22:33–24:41 · Sean pushing back 0/10 The Digital Real Estate Opportunity and Target Investor Profile Kyle outlines the long-term vision of digital real estate as an alternative asset class and describes the typical entrepreneurial investor persona. Sean facilitates with open-ended prompts.24:42–28:34 · Sean pushing back 3/10 Operator Communication Protocols and Strategic Resource Networks Sean inquires whether investors can establish direct lines of communication with fund operators to offer strategic industry connections. Kyle explains the need to protect operators from investor overload while Sean shares his advisory experience.28:34–34:36 · Sean pushing back 2/10 Platform Milestones, Exit Strategies, and M&A Dynamics Sean showcases significant domain knowledge regarding M&A brokerage fees, advisory valuations, and cross-border deal structuring. Kyle agrees with Sean's points regarding white-glove migration services and brokerage value.34:38–37:59 · Sean pushing back 2/10 Due Diligence Essentials and Regulatory Referral Frameworks Kyle emphasizes the necessity of rigorous investor due diligence. Sean asks specifically about referral commissions, and Kyle clarifies that regulatory SEC broker-dealer restrictions prevent cash kickbacks.38:00–39:35 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Life Lessons: Engineering Transitions, Intentional Lifestyle, and Risk Sean closes with a reflective question about life lessons. Kyle recounts transitioning from corporate engineering into entrepreneurial investing and managing calculated risks.

speaking balance: gold is Sean, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Sean 49.2% · guest 50.8%0:00 · Sean 49.2% · guest 50.8%3:00 · Sean 28.4% · guest 71.6%3:00 · Sean 28.4% · guest 71.6%6:00 · Sean 34.3% · guest 65.7%6:00 · Sean 34.3% · guest 65.7%9:00 · Sean 30.9% · guest 69.1%9:00 · Sean 30.9% · guest 69.1%12:00 · Sean 13.1% · guest 86.9%12:00 · Sean 13.1% · guest 86.9%15:00 · Sean 25.2% · guest 74.8%15:00 · Sean 25.2% · guest 74.8%18:00 · Sean 47.9% · guest 52.1%18:00 · Sean 47.9% · guest 52.1%21:00 · Sean 28% · guest 72%21:00 · Sean 28% · guest 72%24:00 · Sean 31.5% · guest 68.5%24:00 · Sean 31.5% · guest 68.5%27:00 · Sean 43.2% · guest 56.8%27:00 · Sean 43.2% · guest 56.8%30:00 · Sean 40% · guest 60%30:00 · Sean 40% · guest 60%33:00 · Sean 46.5% · guest 53.5%33:00 · Sean 46.5% · guest 53.5%36:00 · Sean 15.6% · guest 84.4%36:00 · Sean 15.6% · guest 84.4%39:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%39:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 6:39 Reframing the fee structure and skin in the game

Kyle firmly rejects the host's premise that Web Street takes a disproportionate cut, explaining that the operator receives 23% with zero salary and personal capital at risk.

Hardest push from Sean ▶ 6:12 Pushback on fee split comparison to standard 80/20 funds

Sean directly challenges Web Street's two-thirds payout split as being substantially less favorable to LPs than the traditional 80/20 profit-sharing model.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:39 Clarifying operator alignment and 0-salary compensation

Kyle educates Sean on the mechanics of their fee model, explaining that the platform only takes 10% while the portfolio operator takes 23% without receiving a base salary.

Sean holds their own ▶ 8:32 Citing liquidation startup case study on distribution pitfalls

Sean demonstrates deep investing experience by recounting how a high profit-share agreement crippled an e-commerce liquidation business he backed, requiring a restructuring to equity.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicSean as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementSean pushing backWhy
Web Street's Core Model: Democratizing Digital Business Ownership 4311 Sean asks exploratory questions comparing fractional online business investing through SPVs and LLCs with public equity markets. Kyle explains the fund structure, quarterly distributions, and profit splits in an educational, collaborative manner.
Fee Distribution, Skin in the Game, and Investor Reporting 5424 Sean pushes back on the two-thirds split, noting standard funds typically give 80% to LPs. Kyle clarifies that the one-third management split is divided between Web Street (10%) and the operator (23%), who receives no salary and puts in 5% equity skin in the game.
Capital Management: Retaining Working Capital to Sustain Growth 6212 Sean introduces a concrete personal case where excessive profit distributions hindered an e-commerce liquidation company's growth. Kyle responds by detailing how Web Street actively manages working capital and withholds cash distributions when inventory buffers are needed.
Asset Classes: Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and Content Portfolios 3200 Kyle reviews the primary online business models targetted by the platform including Amazon FBA, KDP, SaaS, and content sites. Sean acknowledges familiarity with the mechanics and keeps the flow conversational.
Operator Vetting, Fund Execution, and Capital Protection 5314 Sean probes the practical risks of deal execution, asking what happens if fundraising takes too long and targeted assets are lost. Kyle explains their 90-day deployment window and safety mechanism of returning capital with accrued interest.
Mid-Roll Interlude: Host Subscription and Engagement Appeal 2100 Sean delivers a mid-roll subscription appeal for the podcast, followed by informal banter on interest rate environments and high-risk crypto returns.
The Digital Real Estate Opportunity and Target Investor Profile 2200 Kyle outlines the long-term vision of digital real estate as an alternative asset class and describes the typical entrepreneurial investor persona. Sean facilitates with open-ended prompts.
Operator Communication Protocols and Strategic Resource Networks 5323 Sean inquires whether investors can establish direct lines of communication with fund operators to offer strategic industry connections. Kyle explains the need to protect operators from investor overload while Sean shares his advisory experience.
Platform Milestones, Exit Strategies, and M&A Dynamics 6102 Sean showcases significant domain knowledge regarding M&A brokerage fees, advisory valuations, and cross-border deal structuring. Kyle agrees with Sean's points regarding white-glove migration services and brokerage value.
Due Diligence Essentials and Regulatory Referral Frameworks 5412 Kyle emphasizes the necessity of rigorous investor due diligence. Sean asks specifically about referral commissions, and Kyle clarifies that regulatory SEC broker-dealer restrictions prevent cash kickbacks.
Life Lessons: Engineering Transitions, Intentional Lifestyle, and Risk 1000 Sean closes with a reflective question about life lessons. Kyle recounts transitioning from corporate engineering into entrepreneurial investing and managing calculated risks.

Statements from this episode (10)

Assertion Partly supported
Empire Flippers Recently Brokered a $15 Million Online Business Sale
“Recently they sold a business for around fifteen million dollars.”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 2:53
Disclosure
Web Street SPVs Raise $1M-$2.5M From 50 to 70 Investors
“Sometimes it's two, two to five businesses of different sizes. So you're actually investing. You're a partner in the LLC and. As those businesses cash flow, we distribute the profits back to investors. So each quarter, whatever profits are made, investors rece…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 4:19
Disclosure
Web Street Distributes Two-Thirds of Profits to Passive Investors
“It's a two third, one third split. So because you're not actively running these businesses, right? You don't own, you have no say in what's done in the businesses. You, the investors receive two thirds of the profit every quarter. And when these businesses are…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 5:33
Disclosure
Web Street Takes 10% Carry; Zero-Salary Operators Receive 23%
“Investors receive two-thirds, one-third goes to the is split between Web Street, we actually get 10% of the profit, and the operator, so the operator running the businesses they get the other 23%, and the reason they get that portion is they have no salary, th…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 6:39
Disclosure
Weisbrot Restructured E-Commerce Profit Share into Equity to Protect Growth
“I invested in a e-commerce liquidation company in Canada a little bit more than a year ago. And we were, before it was equity, it was meant to just be like profit share, but the actual deal was so good for me that it prevented the business from growing. Like i…”
Sean Weisbrot Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 8:40
Disclosure
Web Street Withholds Quarterly Distributions to Buffer Working Capital Reserves
“So a lot of times we will hold back distributions for a quarter or two to help with fluctuations in inventory. So some of these that are FBA, Amazon businesses you know, these are very experienced operators. They can definitely be trusted to run the business a…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 10:17
Disclosure
Web Street Returns Capital with Interest if Deals Miss 90-Day Window
“What we do if we raise money and the operators aren't able to find a business that they want to purchase within 90 days, so they have a 90 day acquisition period, then the funds are simply just returned to investors. And we, we've done that. We would much rath…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 19:01
Assertion Supported
Top Online Business Brokerages Have Eclipsed $500M in Cumulative Sales
“Over the life of those brokerages, I know a few stats where they've done over half of half a billion dollars in sales and businesses brokered.”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 23:10
Disclosure
Web Street Has Raised $40M to Acquire 40 Digital Assets
“We have 17 active portfolios or funds. That's about 40 assets. So like I said, some of them are one, some of them are two. None of them are really more than three. That's about, let's see, we've raised, I think just over forty million dollars in the last three…”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 28:38
Disclosure
Web Street Lists First Portfolio Assets for Sale, Awaiting First Exits
“So we actually, we started just about three years ago and we have our first assets for sale now. None of them have actually exited, but we have them Some that are actively for sale as recently as this month.”
Kyle Kodawiski Apr 2, 2024 ▶ 29:16
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