Apr 3, 2026 · 55m · we-live-to-build

He Said 'What to Sell' Is Not Even the Right Question

Meir Simhi · 30m spoken Sean Weisbrot · 18m spoken
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In the milestone 300th episode of 'We Live To Build,' host Sean Weisbrot reunites with mentor Meir to explore business networking, their shared entrepreneurial origins in China, and Meir's 'Product Theory' for systematic value creation.

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Sean as informed peer 4.5 Guest teaching 4.1 Guest disagreement 1.1 Sean pushing back 1.1
05100:0015:0030:0045:002:37–6:42 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Overcoming Entrepreneurial Loneliness and Isolation Sean asks exploratory questions regarding the emotional and practical difficulties of entrepreneurial isolation. Meir reframes how to gain respect and build utilitarian business relationships.6:44–10:01 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Origins of Sean and Meir's Mentorship in China Sean asks why Meir took the initiative to mentor him in China. Meir gently corrects Sean's framing, noting that he recognized Sean's unmonetized networking potential as a strategic platform.10:02–13:44 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 Early Entrepreneurial Struggles and Family Background Sean delivers an extended narrative about his family background, managing government relations in China, and struggling with ADHD. Meir listens receptively throughout.13:46–17:41 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Creating the Digital Course on Selling via WeChat Meir and Sean reminisce about creating the WeChat digital course in Thailand. Both share collaborative reflections on how turning an idea into a tangible product shaped Sean's mindset.17:43–23:21 · Sean as informed peer 6/10 Pivoting to Blockchain Advisory and Achieving $15M in Sales Sean details how he applied Meir's lessons to pivot into crypto advisory and generate $15M in sales. Meir validates the pivot using the concept of luck meeting preparation while contrasting it with his own avoidance of shiny object syndrome.23:22–26:14 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 The Enduring Nature and Evolution of Modern Commerce Sean asks if sticking with e-commerce was the right choice. Meir provides a structured lecture explaining why e-commerce has simply become modern commerce in all business sectors.26:17–35:32 · Sean as informed peer 2/10 Formulating the Product Theory and Consistent Value Creation Sean asks how founders determine what to sell. Meir presents his Product Theory, breaking down market contradictions before putting Sean on the spot to define a market.35:34–40:34 · Sean as informed peer 7/10 Pitching a Novel Frustration-Relief Dog Treat Concept Sean pitches his novelty dog treat concept, demonstrating domain understanding of pet consumable economics, regulatory barriers, and customer psychology.40:34–46:15 · Sean as informed peer 6/10 Refining Market Positioning, Product Expansion, and Psychology Meir challenges the core premise of Sean's product and questioning whether he is solving dog problems or human psychology. Sean defends his one-product brand strategy, detailing subscriptions and retail scent packaging.46:15–52:25 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 The Four Axes Model and Value Propositions in Product Design Meir explains his Four Axes Model (target group, topic, problem, solution) and defines a product as a solution paired with a value proposition. Sean gently checks Meir's claim about not having published the theory yet.52:26–53:42 · Sean as informed peer 6/10 Milestone Reflection and the Five-Stage Networking Flywheel Sean shares his five-stage networking flywheel framework and explains his podcast rebrand. The conversation ends with mutual fond reflections on their early days in Shenzhen.2:37–6:42 · Guest teaching 5/10 Overcoming Entrepreneurial Loneliness and Isolation Sean asks exploratory questions regarding the emotional and practical difficulties of entrepreneurial isolation. Meir reframes how to gain respect and build utilitarian business relationships.6:44–10:01 · Guest teaching 4/10 Origins of Sean and Meir's Mentorship in China Sean asks why Meir took the initiative to mentor him in China. Meir gently corrects Sean's framing, noting that he recognized Sean's unmonetized networking potential as a strategic platform.10:02–13:44 · Guest teaching 1/10 Early Entrepreneurial Struggles and Family Background Sean delivers an extended narrative about his family background, managing government relations in China, and struggling with ADHD. Meir listens receptively throughout.13:46–17:41 · Guest teaching 4/10 Creating the Digital Course on Selling via WeChat Meir and Sean reminisce about creating the WeChat digital course in Thailand. Both share collaborative reflections on how turning an idea into a tangible product shaped Sean's mindset.17:43–23:21 · Guest teaching 3/10 Pivoting to Blockchain Advisory and Achieving $15M in Sales Sean details how he applied Meir's lessons to pivot into crypto advisory and generate $15M in sales. Meir validates the pivot using the concept of luck meeting preparation while contrasting it with his own avoidance of shiny object syndrome.23:22–26:14 · Guest teaching 6/10 The Enduring Nature and Evolution of Modern Commerce Sean asks if sticking with e-commerce was the right choice. Meir provides a structured lecture explaining why e-commerce has simply become modern commerce in all business sectors.26:17–35:32 · Guest teaching 7/10 Formulating the Product Theory and Consistent Value Creation Sean asks how founders determine what to sell. Meir presents his Product Theory, breaking down market contradictions before putting Sean on the spot to define a market.35:34–40:34 · Guest teaching 1/10 Pitching a Novel Frustration-Relief Dog Treat Concept Sean pitches his novelty dog treat concept, demonstrating domain understanding of pet consumable economics, regulatory barriers, and customer psychology.40:34–46:15 · Guest teaching 5/10 Refining Market Positioning, Product Expansion, and Psychology Meir challenges the core premise of Sean's product and questioning whether he is solving dog problems or human psychology. Sean defends his one-product brand strategy, detailing subscriptions and retail scent packaging.46:15–52:25 · Guest teaching 7/10 The Four Axes Model and Value Propositions in Product Design Meir explains his Four Axes Model (target group, topic, problem, solution) and defines a product as a solution paired with a value proposition. Sean gently checks Meir's claim about not having published the theory yet.52:26–53:42 · Guest teaching 2/10 Milestone Reflection and the Five-Stage Networking Flywheel Sean shares his five-stage networking flywheel framework and explains his podcast rebrand. The conversation ends with mutual fond reflections on their early days in Shenzhen.2:37–6:42 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Overcoming Entrepreneurial Loneliness and Isolation Sean asks exploratory questions regarding the emotional and practical difficulties of entrepreneurial isolation. Meir reframes how to gain respect and build utilitarian business relationships.6:44–10:01 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Origins of Sean and Meir's Mentorship in China Sean asks why Meir took the initiative to mentor him in China. Meir gently corrects Sean's framing, noting that he recognized Sean's unmonetized networking potential as a strategic platform.10:02–13:44 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Early Entrepreneurial Struggles and Family Background Sean delivers an extended narrative about his family background, managing government relations in China, and struggling with ADHD. Meir listens receptively throughout.13:46–17:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Creating the Digital Course on Selling via WeChat Meir and Sean reminisce about creating the WeChat digital course in Thailand. Both share collaborative reflections on how turning an idea into a tangible product shaped Sean's mindset.17:43–23:21 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Pivoting to Blockchain Advisory and Achieving $15M in Sales Sean details how he applied Meir's lessons to pivot into crypto advisory and generate $15M in sales. Meir validates the pivot using the concept of luck meeting preparation while contrasting it with his own avoidance of shiny object syndrome.23:22–26:14 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Enduring Nature and Evolution of Modern Commerce Sean asks if sticking with e-commerce was the right choice. Meir provides a structured lecture explaining why e-commerce has simply become modern commerce in all business sectors.26:17–35:32 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Formulating the Product Theory and Consistent Value Creation Sean asks how founders determine what to sell. Meir presents his Product Theory, breaking down market contradictions before putting Sean on the spot to define a market.35:34–40:34 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Pitching a Novel Frustration-Relief Dog Treat Concept Sean pitches his novelty dog treat concept, demonstrating domain understanding of pet consumable economics, regulatory barriers, and customer psychology.40:34–46:15 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Refining Market Positioning, Product Expansion, and Psychology Meir challenges the core premise of Sean's product and questioning whether he is solving dog problems or human psychology. Sean defends his one-product brand strategy, detailing subscriptions and retail scent packaging.46:15–52:25 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The Four Axes Model and Value Propositions in Product Design Meir explains his Four Axes Model (target group, topic, problem, solution) and defines a product as a solution paired with a value proposition. Sean gently checks Meir's claim about not having published the theory yet.52:26–53:42 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Milestone Reflection and the Five-Stage Networking Flywheel Sean shares his five-stage networking flywheel framework and explains his podcast rebrand. The conversation ends with mutual fond reflections on their early days in Shenzhen.2:37–6:42 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Overcoming Entrepreneurial Loneliness and Isolation Sean asks exploratory questions regarding the emotional and practical difficulties of entrepreneurial isolation. Meir reframes how to gain respect and build utilitarian business relationships.6:44–10:01 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Origins of Sean and Meir's Mentorship in China Sean asks why Meir took the initiative to mentor him in China. Meir gently corrects Sean's framing, noting that he recognized Sean's unmonetized networking potential as a strategic platform.10:02–13:44 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Early Entrepreneurial Struggles and Family Background Sean delivers an extended narrative about his family background, managing government relations in China, and struggling with ADHD. Meir listens receptively throughout.13:46–17:41 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Creating the Digital Course on Selling via WeChat Meir and Sean reminisce about creating the WeChat digital course in Thailand. Both share collaborative reflections on how turning an idea into a tangible product shaped Sean's mindset.17:43–23:21 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Pivoting to Blockchain Advisory and Achieving $15M in Sales Sean details how he applied Meir's lessons to pivot into crypto advisory and generate $15M in sales. Meir validates the pivot using the concept of luck meeting preparation while contrasting it with his own avoidance of shiny object syndrome.23:22–26:14 · Sean pushing back 0/10 The Enduring Nature and Evolution of Modern Commerce Sean asks if sticking with e-commerce was the right choice. Meir provides a structured lecture explaining why e-commerce has simply become modern commerce in all business sectors.26:17–35:32 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Formulating the Product Theory and Consistent Value Creation Sean asks how founders determine what to sell. Meir presents his Product Theory, breaking down market contradictions before putting Sean on the spot to define a market.35:34–40:34 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Pitching a Novel Frustration-Relief Dog Treat Concept Sean pitches his novelty dog treat concept, demonstrating domain understanding of pet consumable economics, regulatory barriers, and customer psychology.40:34–46:15 · Sean pushing back 5/10 Refining Market Positioning, Product Expansion, and Psychology Meir challenges the core premise of Sean's product and questioning whether he is solving dog problems or human psychology. Sean defends his one-product brand strategy, detailing subscriptions and retail scent packaging.46:15–52:25 · Sean pushing back 2/10 The Four Axes Model and Value Propositions in Product Design Meir explains his Four Axes Model (target group, topic, problem, solution) and defines a product as a solution paired with a value proposition. Sean gently checks Meir's claim about not having published the theory yet.52:26–53:42 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Milestone Reflection and the Five-Stage Networking Flywheel Sean shares his five-stage networking flywheel framework and explains his podcast rebrand. The conversation ends with mutual fond reflections on their early days in Shenzhen.

speaking balance: gold is Sean, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Sean 82.2% · guest 17.8%0:00 · Sean 82.2% · guest 17.8%3:00 · Sean 4.7% · guest 95.3%3:00 · Sean 4.7% · guest 95.3%6:00 · Sean 15.9% · guest 84.1%6:00 · Sean 15.9% · guest 84.1%9:00 · Sean 68.6% · guest 31.4%9:00 · Sean 68.6% · guest 31.4%12:00 · Sean 58.1% · guest 41.9%12:00 · Sean 58.1% · guest 41.9%15:00 · Sean 17.7% · guest 82.3%15:00 · Sean 17.7% · guest 82.3%18:00 · Sean 99.2% · guest 0.8%18:00 · Sean 99.2% · guest 0.8%21:00 · Sean 19.1% · guest 80.9%21:00 · Sean 19.1% · guest 80.9%24:00 · Sean 5.4% · guest 94.6%24:00 · Sean 5.4% · guest 94.6%27:00 · Sean 0.4% · guest 99.6%27:00 · Sean 0.4% · guest 99.6%30:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%30:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%33:00 · Sean 6% · guest 94%33:00 · Sean 6% · guest 94%36:00 · Sean 95.7% · guest 4.3%36:00 · Sean 95.7% · guest 4.3%39:00 · Sean 27.5% · guest 72.5%39:00 · Sean 27.5% · guest 72.5%42:00 · Sean 79.4% · guest 20.6%42:00 · Sean 79.4% · guest 20.6%45:00 · Sean 41.3% · guest 58.7%45:00 · Sean 41.3% · guest 58.7%48:00 · Sean 4.1% · guest 95.9%48:00 · Sean 4.1% · guest 95.9%51:00 · Sean 50.6% · guest 49.4%51:00 · Sean 50.6% · guest 49.4%54:00 · Sean 35.1% · guest 64.9%54:00 · Sean 35.1% · guest 64.9%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 39:51 Challenging the Dog Treat Premise

Meir directly challenges Sean's brand framing by arguing that the biscuit is merely an incidental vehicle for venting frustration rather than a coherent pet brand.

Hardest push from Sean ▶ 42:17 Defending Single-Product Brand Viability

Sean firmly rejects the premise that he needs multiple pet accessory lines, arguing that a single strong offer with custom and standard variations can achieve eight figures.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 32:50 Deconstructing the 'What to Sell' Question

Meir systematically breaks down conventional market dilemmas to prove that asking what to sell is flawed, reframing the entire process around consistent value creation.

Sean holds their own ▶ 38:30 Demonstrating Pet Consumable Market Mechanics

Sean showcases deep commercial expertise by explaining why food safety barriers, high American pet spending, and recurring consumable cycles create optimal scalability.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicSean as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementSean pushing backWhy
Overcoming Entrepreneurial Loneliness and Isolation 3511 Sean asks exploratory questions regarding the emotional and practical difficulties of entrepreneurial isolation. Meir reframes how to gain respect and build utilitarian business relationships.
Origins of Sean and Meir's Mentorship in China 3421 Sean asks why Meir took the initiative to mentor him in China. Meir gently corrects Sean's framing, noting that he recognized Sean's unmonetized networking potential as a strategic platform.
Early Entrepreneurial Struggles and Family Background 5100 Sean delivers an extended narrative about his family background, managing government relations in China, and struggling with ADHD. Meir listens receptively throughout.
Creating the Digital Course on Selling via WeChat 4400 Meir and Sean reminisce about creating the WeChat digital course in Thailand. Both share collaborative reflections on how turning an idea into a tangible product shaped Sean's mindset.
Pivoting to Blockchain Advisory and Achieving $15M in Sales 6301 Sean details how he applied Meir's lessons to pivot into crypto advisory and generate $15M in sales. Meir validates the pivot using the concept of luck meeting preparation while contrasting it with his own avoidance of shiny object syndrome.
The Enduring Nature and Evolution of Modern Commerce 3610 Sean asks if sticking with e-commerce was the right choice. Meir provides a structured lecture explaining why e-commerce has simply become modern commerce in all business sectors.
Formulating the Product Theory and Consistent Value Creation 2721 Sean asks how founders determine what to sell. Meir presents his Product Theory, breaking down market contradictions before putting Sean on the spot to define a market.
Pitching a Novel Frustration-Relief Dog Treat Concept 7101 Sean pitches his novelty dog treat concept, demonstrating domain understanding of pet consumable economics, regulatory barriers, and customer psychology.
Refining Market Positioning, Product Expansion, and Psychology 6545 Meir challenges the core premise of Sean's product and questioning whether he is solving dog problems or human psychology. Sean defends his one-product brand strategy, detailing subscriptions and retail scent packaging.
The Four Axes Model and Value Propositions in Product Design 4722 Meir explains his Four Axes Model (target group, topic, problem, solution) and defines a product as a solution paired with a value proposition. Sean gently checks Meir's claim about not having published the theory yet.
Milestone Reflection and the Five-Stage Networking Flywheel 6200 Sean shares his five-stage networking flywheel framework and explains his podcast rebrand. The conversation ends with mutual fond reflections on their early days in Shenzhen.

Statements from this episode (12)

Opinion
Simhi: The Biggest Challenge in Entrepreneurship Is Loneliness
“I think the biggest challenge in being entrepreneur is Your surrounding, your social surrounding, to be lonely. Most of the time you are alone in this journey.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 2:58
Insight
Simhi: Perceived value drives business relationships more than real value
“In business, people look at you and say, okay, how valuable this person is. And it's not even the real value, but it's the perceived value. It's like the, I call it the envisioned state of value.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 6:24
Insight
Weisbrot: Mentees Must Be Coachable or Mentors Will Walk Away
“You want to be coachable. You want to be easy to help. Otherwise they're going to go, well, screw you.”
Sean Weisbrot Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 13:33
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Weisbrot: Crypto advisory and fundraising in China generated $15 million
“And after two months of doing that, I was able to raise money for the guy and then he wanted me to advise him and then other people wanted me to fundraise and then other people wanted me to advise and then this whole thing kind of spiraled into a crazy thing a…”
Sean Weisbrot Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 20:21
Insight
Simhi: Founders should not drop a successful business to pursue shiny objects
“You don't jump from one business to another in the middle. You don't drop something that is successful.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 22:07
Assertion Contradicted
Simhi: Most of Apple's Sales Come from E-Commerce and Its Website
“And even Apple, which is innovation company, but it's still e-commerce company and most of their sales are coming from their e-commerce, from their website and from their e-commerce activities.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 24:07
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Simhi: Major Industry Players Replaced 'E-Commerce' with 'Commerce'
“If you will look at like all the big players in this field, you will see that in their websites, they changed their jargon and now it's called commerce and not e-commerce anymore.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 25:58
Insight
Simhi: Consistent value creation, not product selection, drives business success
“The question what to sell is not even the right question. What I was looking for is not what to sell. Is basically an opportunity to create value because what I found that even though there are so many contradictions, there is one thing that is valid in every …”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 33:22
Insight
Weisbrot: Food safety regulations create a strong moat for pet consumables
“A pet consumable is going to be the most scalable kind of business Even though it's harder to make because you have food safety regulations and ingredients, you know, it's not just like making a hoodie where you've got like a piece of fabric, like it's much mo…”
Sean Weisbrot Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 39:03
Assertion Supported
Simhi: Many single-product brands reach seven- and eight-figure revenues
“There are many one product brands that are seven and even like eight figure brands.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 43:38
Insight
Simhi: Marketing Is an Integral Part of Product Development
“Marketing is, is an integral part of a product development basically.”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 52:06
Opinion
Simhi: Shenzhen leads the world in robotics and AI innovation
“It's the most modern city in the world. It's leading the world with leading the world with innovation in the fields of like robotics and AI. So I think if people want to have like a glance about the future, how the future is going to look like, they should vis…”
Meir Simhi Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 54:30
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