Jun 2, 2026 · 31m · we-live-to-build

She Woke Up One Morning and Knew She Had to Buy A $50M Company

Stacie Shifflett · 20m spoken Sean Weisbrot · 7m spoken
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In this episode, entrepreneur Stacy shares how she followed intuition to orchestrate a $50 million software acquisition without formal M&A experience or a college degree. Alongside host Sean Weisbrot, she discusses non-traditional career growth, establishing executive boundaries, conducting due diligence, and prioritizing self-awareness.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Sean holds 26.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Sean as informed peer 3.2 Guest teaching 2.7 Guest disagreement 1.3 Sean pushing back 1.5
05100:0010:0020:0030:000:15–8:20 · Sean as informed peer 2/10 Leading a $50M Acquisition and Overcoming Executive Disrespect Stacie recounts orchestrating a $50M acquisition and resisting an elitist CEO who excluded her from the org chart. Sean facilitates with exploratory and clarifying questions while validating her appraisal of the CEO's poor leadership.8:20–13:12 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Sponsor Break: Network Before You Need It Sean pushes Stacie on why she settled for a subordinate role instead of aggressively demanding the CEO seat. Stacie counters by explaining her self-awareness regarding software engineering versus implementation services.13:13–16:00 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Sean's Acquisition Attempt and Direct Deal Due Diligence Sean describes his own hesitation acquiring a $4M business when faced with online listing platform paywalls. Stacie explains that standard broker-led M&A deals provide direct due diligence access to serious buyers without micro-fees.16:03–21:42 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 From Bartending to Rolling Out IBM PCs Across HHS Stacie shares her unconventional transition from hospitality to IT deployment at HHS. Sean compliments her rare ability to execute effectively rather than merely being a passive beneficiary of mentorship.21:43–24:43 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Analytical Systems Thinking, Fast Processing, and Listening Skills Sean candidly reflects on how his ADHD and rapid information processing have historically created communication friction in personal relationships. Stacie concurs on analytical framing while reminding him that active listening is a deliberate skill.24:46–31:26 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Peace of Mind, Self-Awareness, and Life Advice Stacie discusses prioritizing peace of mind and self-awareness over conventional academic credentials. Sean connects with her perspective by sharing his choice to abandon psychology graduate school to teach in China.0:15–8:20 · Guest teaching 3/10 Leading a $50M Acquisition and Overcoming Executive Disrespect Stacie recounts orchestrating a $50M acquisition and resisting an elitist CEO who excluded her from the org chart. Sean facilitates with exploratory and clarifying questions while validating her appraisal of the CEO's poor leadership.8:20–13:12 · Guest teaching 3/10 Sponsor Break: Network Before You Need It Sean pushes Stacie on why she settled for a subordinate role instead of aggressively demanding the CEO seat. Stacie counters by explaining her self-awareness regarding software engineering versus implementation services.13:13–16:00 · Guest teaching 4/10 Sean's Acquisition Attempt and Direct Deal Due Diligence Sean describes his own hesitation acquiring a $4M business when faced with online listing platform paywalls. Stacie explains that standard broker-led M&A deals provide direct due diligence access to serious buyers without micro-fees.16:03–21:42 · Guest teaching 2/10 From Bartending to Rolling Out IBM PCs Across HHS Stacie shares her unconventional transition from hospitality to IT deployment at HHS. Sean compliments her rare ability to execute effectively rather than merely being a passive beneficiary of mentorship.21:43–24:43 · Guest teaching 2/10 Analytical Systems Thinking, Fast Processing, and Listening Skills Sean candidly reflects on how his ADHD and rapid information processing have historically created communication friction in personal relationships. Stacie concurs on analytical framing while reminding him that active listening is a deliberate skill.24:46–31:26 · Guest teaching 2/10 Peace of Mind, Self-Awareness, and Life Advice Stacie discusses prioritizing peace of mind and self-awareness over conventional academic credentials. Sean connects with her perspective by sharing his choice to abandon psychology graduate school to teach in China.0:15–8:20 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Leading a $50M Acquisition and Overcoming Executive Disrespect Stacie recounts orchestrating a $50M acquisition and resisting an elitist CEO who excluded her from the org chart. Sean facilitates with exploratory and clarifying questions while validating her appraisal of the CEO's poor leadership.8:20–13:12 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Sponsor Break: Network Before You Need It Sean pushes Stacie on why she settled for a subordinate role instead of aggressively demanding the CEO seat. Stacie counters by explaining her self-awareness regarding software engineering versus implementation services.13:13–16:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Sean's Acquisition Attempt and Direct Deal Due Diligence Sean describes his own hesitation acquiring a $4M business when faced with online listing platform paywalls. Stacie explains that standard broker-led M&A deals provide direct due diligence access to serious buyers without micro-fees.16:03–21:42 · Guest disagreement 1/10 From Bartending to Rolling Out IBM PCs Across HHS Stacie shares her unconventional transition from hospitality to IT deployment at HHS. Sean compliments her rare ability to execute effectively rather than merely being a passive beneficiary of mentorship.21:43–24:43 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Analytical Systems Thinking, Fast Processing, and Listening Skills Sean candidly reflects on how his ADHD and rapid information processing have historically created communication friction in personal relationships. Stacie concurs on analytical framing while reminding him that active listening is a deliberate skill.24:46–31:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Peace of Mind, Self-Awareness, and Life Advice Stacie discusses prioritizing peace of mind and self-awareness over conventional academic credentials. Sean connects with her perspective by sharing his choice to abandon psychology graduate school to teach in China.0:15–8:20 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Leading a $50M Acquisition and Overcoming Executive Disrespect Stacie recounts orchestrating a $50M acquisition and resisting an elitist CEO who excluded her from the org chart. Sean facilitates with exploratory and clarifying questions while validating her appraisal of the CEO's poor leadership.8:20–13:12 · Sean pushing back 4/10 Sponsor Break: Network Before You Need It Sean pushes Stacie on why she settled for a subordinate role instead of aggressively demanding the CEO seat. Stacie counters by explaining her self-awareness regarding software engineering versus implementation services.13:13–16:00 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Sean's Acquisition Attempt and Direct Deal Due Diligence Sean describes his own hesitation acquiring a $4M business when faced with online listing platform paywalls. Stacie explains that standard broker-led M&A deals provide direct due diligence access to serious buyers without micro-fees.16:03–21:42 · Sean pushing back 1/10 From Bartending to Rolling Out IBM PCs Across HHS Stacie shares her unconventional transition from hospitality to IT deployment at HHS. Sean compliments her rare ability to execute effectively rather than merely being a passive beneficiary of mentorship.21:43–24:43 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Analytical Systems Thinking, Fast Processing, and Listening Skills Sean candidly reflects on how his ADHD and rapid information processing have historically created communication friction in personal relationships. Stacie concurs on analytical framing while reminding him that active listening is a deliberate skill.24:46–31:26 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Peace of Mind, Self-Awareness, and Life Advice Stacie discusses prioritizing peace of mind and self-awareness over conventional academic credentials. Sean connects with her perspective by sharing his choice to abandon psychology graduate school to teach in China.

speaking balance: gold is Sean, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Sean 3.9% · guest 96.1%0:00 · Sean 3.9% · guest 96.1%3:00 · Sean 8.8% · guest 91.2%3:00 · Sean 8.8% · guest 91.2%6:00 · Sean 20.9% · guest 79.1%6:00 · Sean 20.9% · guest 79.1%9:00 · Sean 11.5% · guest 88.5%9:00 · Sean 11.5% · guest 88.5%12:00 · Sean 65.7% · guest 34.3%12:00 · Sean 65.7% · guest 34.3%15:00 · Sean 7.5% · guest 92.5%15:00 · Sean 7.5% · guest 92.5%18:00 · Sean 20.5% · guest 79.5%18:00 · Sean 20.5% · guest 79.5%21:00 · Sean 64.3% · guest 35.7%21:00 · Sean 64.3% · guest 35.7%24:00 · Sean 22.4% · guest 77.6%24:00 · Sean 22.4% · guest 77.6%27:00 · Sean 51.1% · guest 48.9%27:00 · Sean 51.1% · guest 48.9%30:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%30:00 · Sean 0% · guest 100%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:20 Declining the CEO Premise

Stacie rejects Sean's suggestion that she should have aggressively claimed the top executive title, grounding her boundary in a realistic appraisal of her specific strengths.

Hardest push from Sean ▶ 9:15 Why Not Run the Company

Sean directly challenges Stacie's decision to accept a reporting role beneath another executive, urging that she should have backed herself to run the entire enterprise.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 14:55 Real M&A Due Diligence

Stacie clarifies the mechanics of institutional broker transactions, pointing out that legitimate deals grant open due diligence rather than charging consumer-style access fees.

Sean holds their own ▶ 13:15 Analyzing Recurring Revenue Risk

Sean demonstrates his commercial acumen by contrasting high-ticket consulting models with low-ticket recurring SaaS vulnerable to external platform algorithm shifts.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicSean as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementSean pushing backWhy
Leading a $50M Acquisition and Overcoming Executive Disrespect 2321 Stacie recounts orchestrating a $50M acquisition and resisting an elitist CEO who excluded her from the org chart. Sean facilitates with exploratory and clarifying questions while validating her appraisal of the CEO's poor leadership.
Sponsor Break: Network Before You Need It 3324 Sean pushes Stacie on why she settled for a subordinate role instead of aggressively demanding the CEO seat. Stacie counters by explaining her self-awareness regarding software engineering versus implementation services.
Sean's Acquisition Attempt and Direct Deal Due Diligence 4411 Sean describes his own hesitation acquiring a $4M business when faced with online listing platform paywalls. Stacie explains that standard broker-led M&A deals provide direct due diligence access to serious buyers without micro-fees.
From Bartending to Rolling Out IBM PCs Across HHS 3211 Stacie shares her unconventional transition from hospitality to IT deployment at HHS. Sean compliments her rare ability to execute effectively rather than merely being a passive beneficiary of mentorship.
Analytical Systems Thinking, Fast Processing, and Listening Skills 4211 Sean candidly reflects on how his ADHD and rapid information processing have historically created communication friction in personal relationships. Stacie concurs on analytical framing while reminding him that active listening is a deliberate skill.
Peace of Mind, Self-Awareness, and Life Advice 3211 Stacie discusses prioritizing peace of mind and self-awareness over conventional academic credentials. Sean connects with her perspective by sharing his choice to abandon psychology graduate school to teach in China.

Statements from this episode (4)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shifflett: Punched CEO in arm after he grabbed her during meeting
“I punched him in the arm and said, don't you ever touch me again.”
Stacie Shifflett Jun 2, 2026 ▶ 7:42
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shifflett: Every investor pitched on the acquisition wanted to participate
“We started pitching the deals to investors, you know, all, they all came to the DC area and everybody that saw it was so impressed they wanted in, so we got to choose which team we wanted to work with, and that's what we did. Took nine months, by the way.”
Stacie Shifflett Jun 2, 2026 ▶ 11:40
Disclosure
Weisbrot explored acquiring a $4 million online recurring-revenue business
“About three or four months ago, I kind of woke up one day and I was like, you know, I should look online and see if there's a company that I can acquire. And I looked around and I found this one and I just couldn't stop thinking about it. And I can't remember …”
Sean Weisbrot Jun 2, 2026 ▶ 13:13
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Shifflett: Led first IBM PC rollout across HHS within one year
“In about a year, I literally single-handedly, I had a tech team to put the machines together, but I literally rolled out the first IBM PC desktops to the entire Department of Health and Human Services.”
Stacie Shifflett Jun 2, 2026 ▶ 18:08
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