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Buhrdorf: Founders should never hire a lawyer for company formation
“You know, when you do a formation, people come to me and say, hey, should I use a lawyer to do a formation? I say, absolutely not. Not only will they do it wrong because they don't do 1000 of thousands of these like we do, we make damn sure we do it right, hav…”
Ross Buhrdorf: SMBs prefer major commercial banks over fintechs for primary deposits
“Our customers don't want us to take deposits. They don't, you know, the, we're embedded fintech, so we have You know, a FBO account, or think of it as like a Venmo account. We have a holding account. That's what our customers want. They don't, they want Chase.…”
ZenBusiness CEO: 10 of 15 acquisitions targeted organic search rankings
“We've done
15 acquisitions.
10 of those acquisitions were organic search position.”
Ross Buhrdorf: A free offering is the best way to disrupt incumbents
“We were initially trying to disrupt the incumbents, and so a free offering is always the best way to do that”
Ross Buhrdorf predicts ZenBusiness will reach profitability by fall 2021
“We will be profitable next fall.”
ZenBusiness maintains a monthly churn rate of 1.5% or lower
“1.5, and we're below that some months.”
Buhrdorf says ZenBusiness will easily break $30 million ARR next year
“Yeah, that's very easy, easy to hit that number next year.”
Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness refuses to offer features that do not generate revenue
“We're making money on everything. We, otherwise we don't.”
Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness has served 500k customers with 400k+ active
“We've had 500,000 customers, but, you know, around 400,000 plus.”
Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness is what Shopify is for e-commerce
“I will say that, you know, what I pitched to the VCs, and we still really is a tenant of our business, what Shopify does for e-commerce, Zen Business does for the service sector.”
Buhrdorf: Zero-cost entity formation is now the industry standard
“Now the market is at a zero cost offering, and everybody's there. At that time, we were leading it, and it got us into the market.”
Ross Buhrdorf: Funded startups should hire professional market research firms for surveys
“And I'd recommend, you know, a company that's got any amount of funding To use professionals, and professionals go out, they get the, they build the surveys and the questionnaires based on what you want to know, based on a lot of the early you know, survey mon…”
Ross Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness revenue run rate recently passed $42 million
“Oh, hey, man, we're north of that.”
Ross Buhrdorf predicts ZenBusiness will triple its revenue in 2022
“We're going to do two, close to three X revenue growth this year.”
Ross Buhrdorf: Customer survey responses diverge from true willingness to pay
“Customers tell you one thing in a survey, but then when they put in their credit card, that's a different, it's a different thing.”
Solopreneurs avoid standard logo churn by starting new gigs after failures
“These people don't churn, logo churn, like other mid-market products, because if the person fails, and we really want to think about this in this fashion, if this person's business fails, they're still a person. They still have a side gig. It's not like they b…”
Buhrdorf prefers users run five companies over pushing high single-business ACV
“I'd rather see our customers paying us a thousand dollars a month and have five different companies. Because that makes more sense than having, you know, a single company until it's, you know, got 10, 12, 20 customers, 20 employees, then they could move into t…”
ZenBusiness bypasses fintech KYC friction using upfront business formation data
“Fintech products suffer from acquisition and then conversion, right? So they can acquire the customer, but then they got to go through all of this KYC stuff. With us at Zen Business, we have all that KYC stuff because we do the formation. We do the EIN.”
Buhrdorf says small businesses use over 10 unintegrated apps on average
“On average, folks are using 10 plus different vertical applications that aren't integrated to get their businesses run”
Buhrdorf: Banking and taxes are small businesses' top post-formation worries
“Banking for us is really about, it's one of the, it's the number one next to taxes is the number one thing that, that Small businesses are worried about, like, oh my god, I just did a formation, you know, what kind of filing do I, you know, what kind of format…”
ZenBusiness allowed all eligible employees to sell 10% of vested equity
“It was for everybody that had vested, that had been here over a year and had vested, and then we did, ah, 10% of that.”
Ross Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness moved from free to paid and back to zero-dollar pricing
“We started out at free then we went to paid, And now the market is, ah, you know, we've been so successful. Now the market has went back to zero, which is where we've went”
ZenBusiness raised $205M at a $1.7B valuation
“We raised the last round at 1.7 billion and raised, you know, two hundred and five million bucks.”
Hurt: ZenBusiness recently closed a round at a $1.7B valuation
“We're investors and his company, they recently closed around at 1.7 billion.”
ZenBusiness is using its $200M round to build a mobile-first platform
“We're taking this 200 million bucks and we had a lot of money in the bank to launch, you know you know, our next generation platform, which is all on a mobile app and literally takes you step by step Through each step of the process”
Ross Buhrdorf: Early customer survey results accurately drove the ZenBusiness roadmap
“I was the first person at our company that did started surveys, and I used SurveyMonkey, and I asked quite literally, one of my first questions was, You know, rank the, ah, you know, check the box on these list of products that you would like to see on the pla…”
Ross Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness adds 10,000 to 20,000 new customers per month
“Maybe that, that's probably too much, but over 10,000, between 10 and 20.”
ZenBusiness offers free invoicing and monetizes via merchant accounts
“So we give away invoicing for free. Once you do a merchant account, then we.”
Ross Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness Series B raised $56M at $256M valuation
“We announced 55. It ended up being 56 and two 56.”
Ross Buhrdorf: All full-time ZenBusiness employees own equity in the company
“All of my full-time employees have stock, and so do I. I'm the biggest Shareholder in the company.”
Ross Buhrdorf: ZenBusiness acquired challenger bank Joust to build embedded fintech
“We acquired Joust. That was a challenger bank last July, and we've relaunched that, modified it and, you know, we have now accounting taxes embedded along with a invoicing product and merchant account.”
Ross Buhrdorf says ZenBusiness revenue is in the tens of millions
“You know, in the tens of millions in revenue. So revenue has grown explosively also.”
Tony Hsieh's fund invested in ZenBusiness's early round
“Zappos, you know, Tony Hsieh was in, his fund was in our early round.”
Buhrdorf estimates over half of millennials operate a side gig
“That over half of the millennials, you know, have a side gig going on, and this is part of that, you know, that side gig going on, and, you know, the pandemic has certainly accelerated the adoption of these more efficient tools to get a business up and running…”
Ross Buhrdorf notes 98% of ZenBusiness customers are on subscription plans
“Well, 98% of our customers are on a subscription.”
ZenBusiness operates entirely digitally without quota-carrying sales representatives
“No, man, this is all digital, digital business, and that's what, you know, I think that's why you end up with those margins”
ZenBusiness plans to roll out ZenBusiness Money through Q1 2021
“We've rebranded it as Zen Business Money. You want to think about you want to think about Joust as the fintech solution on our platform. So everything fintech and we'll roll that out. It's been a rebrand and we'll roll that out in Q four and Q one of next work…”
Buhrdorf positions ZenBusiness as the Shopify for micro-service businesses
“Well, I mean, you know, you really want to think of us as Shopify for the service industry, so we are a full Service product for the service industry. And that's this long tail micro businesses. So everything you need to get up and running from formation and t…”