Matt Spiegel, CEO of Lawmatics, discusses future transaction valuation multiples for 2026-2027 with Nathan Latka.
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“Given where we are in the market now, and especially with some of the stuff with AI, I think we actually will get back to, or we have the opportunity to get back to a 12 or 13 X multiple on business if we look to do something.”
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