Rand Fishkin, founder of Moz, explains to Nathan Latka why Moz cannot achieve net negative revenue churn with its self-service SMB customer base.
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“We have 23, about 23,000 paying customers, and so in order to have net negative revenue churn on a self-service model with 6.3% average monthly churn, we would have to be upselling customers at a, at an insane rate, right?”
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