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Perry: Moat comes from managing complex workflows at scale, not labor arbitrage

Russ Perry · DesignPickle: Bootstrapped, $10m Revenue, Helping 3,000 Brands Get Design Work Done · Jun 1, 2020 · at 10:29

Russ Perry, founder of Design Pickle, explains the company's true defensibility to Nathan Latka.

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“That's the boat. It's managing that, not just finding some cheaper designers compared to US and reselling their time.”

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“470.”
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