George Arison

CEO, Grindr · 3 appearances on the record.

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George Arison is the CEO of Grindr, where he has guided the LGBTQ social networking and dating platform through its public listing and revenue growth. Prior to Grindr, he co-founded the taxi-booking service Taxi Magic as well as the used-car marketplace Shift Technologies, serving as Shift's CEO and taking it public in 2020.

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4 supported 7 partly supported 4 contradicted 5 not yet assessed 11 not checkable as stated how the 31 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

7 predictions · 24 assertions · 2 opinions · 4 insights · 10 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 31 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 15 are resolved, 5 are not yet assessed, and 11 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how George argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Prediction Held up
Used car demand will jump over the next two quarters
“So my hunch is that demand for used cars over the next couple of quarters is going to jump because of everything that's kind of going on.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 8:25 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?

Their most notable contradicted claim

Prediction Didn’t hold up
Arison: Shift Will Launch Captive Lending by 2024 or 2025
“So eventually, you know, out in 20, 24, 25, we will do capital loans, but we just need to grow to be large enough before we can do that.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 18:36 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?

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Everything George Arison said on Top Founders that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Held up
Used car demand will jump over the next two quarters
“So my hunch is that demand for used cars over the next couple of quarters is going to jump because of everything that's kind of going on.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 8:25 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Prediction Held up
Arison: Used car demand will jump as consumers avoid rideshare
“And my guess is that people are also going to try to avoid transportation and avoid ride sharing, right? So my hunch is that demand for used cars over the next couple of quarters is going to jump because of everything that's kind of going on.”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 7:20 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Arison: Shift's pre-IPO unit economics are much stronger than Carvana's were
“Our unit economics generally have been a lot stronger than theirs were prior to IPO.”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 12:31 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Arison: Market will see 60-to-90-day fundraising freeze from COVID
“I think in practice, there's going to be a bunker mentality out there for 60 to 90 days. And so nothing's going to happen. And I think we all need to bunker down and kind of get ready for that.”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 19:53 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Opinion
Arison: Online Auto Retailers Can Credibly IPO at 15,000 Annual Car Sales
“I think what really matters is volume. Like once you're past 15,000 cars a year, I think it's credible to go out public. At least based on what I'm hearing from investors, right? I've spent a lot of time with public market investors, and that's kind of their g…”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 25:07 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shift's unit economics are much stronger than Carvana's were pre-IPO
“Our unit economics generally have been a lot stronger than theirs were prior to IPO.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 13:31 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shift targets a potential 2021 IPO based on revenue projections
“Because if we do the revenue and the volume that we're projecting, we'd be in fairly good shape to go public next year. Now, again, who knows what happens and things might get delayed and change and whatnot.”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 12:22 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shift sees twice as much demand for sub-$12k used cars
“You would be surprised, but the twice as much demand is for the happens for those cars. That's where everything else even though they're older.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 5:53 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Partly supported
Top US car retailers hold less than 1% of the overall market
“The largest car seller that sells new, new and used sells about a million cars a year. I, AutoNation. So like, and then CarMax is a used car only seller, also does about seven and 50,000 used, right? So the largest players have like sub one percent of the mark…”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 14:01 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Insight
Captive auto lending requires $100M in quarterly securitization
“Until you're doing about a hundred million dollars of securitization every quarter, it's too expensive to do your own loans.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 18:17 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Arison: Carvana averaged 120 days to sell inventory at IPO
“When they went public, I think it were at a 120 days.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 20:07 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Arison: VC market will face a 60-to-90 day fundraising freeze
“I think in practice, there's going to be a bunker mentality out there for 60 to 90 days. And so nothing's going to happen.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 20:53 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Insight
Arison: Companies should avoid captive lending in weak economies
“That's actually another reason not to be doing capital lending right now is because when the economy's weaker, you don't want to be doing your own loans because you just don't know what's going to happen.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 22:28 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Insight
Online auto retailers become IPO-ready at 15,000 cars sold annually
“I think what really matters is volume. Like once you're past 15,000 cars a year, I think it's credible to go out public. At least based on what I'm hearing from investors, right? I've spent a lot of time with public market investors, and that's kind of their g…”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 26:07 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Arison: Shift sees twice the demand for sub-$12k cars
“And we have a segment in our business that we call Value Auto. So these are cars that are below 12,000 dollars in price and over 80,000 miles on them. They're actually very, very popular. You would be surprised, but the twice as much demand is for the happens …”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 4:43 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Insight
Arison: Captive auto lending requires $100M in quarterly securitizations to be viable
“But what you learn over time is that until you're doing about a hundred million dollars of securitization every quarter it's too expensive to do your own loans.”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 17:17 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Partly supported
Arison: Carvana held inventory for 120 days at IPO
“I don't know what Carvana's read right now, but when they went public, I think it were at a 120 days. It was definitely, definitely shorter than their IPO”
George Arison Mar 18, 2020 ▶ 19:07 1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Supported
Shift sells up to 12-year-old cars whereas Vroom caps at four
“When you look at our inventory we have cars that are anywhere from zero to you know, 12 years in age, whereas Vroom only has cars that are roughly, you know, zero to four years in age because if there's no test drive involved, it's kind of hard to convince som…”
George Arison Jul 26, 2016 ▶ 9:18 EP 367: $94M Raised, Car Marketplace, 270 Employees with George Arison of Shift
Disclosure
Shift: Value Auto inventory represents 20% to 30% of sales
“And that was a pretty big part of our business is about 20 to 25 to 30% of our business.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 7:39 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Partly supported
Arison: Shift sold 11,500 cars in 2019
“And if you could take our Cager in terms of volume, and we finished last year with 11,500 cars.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 9:09 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Arison: Shift has served 60,000 lifetime buyers and sellers
“We've serviced about 60,000 customers in the life of the company on both the sell side and the buy side.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 9:23 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Disclosure
Shift's average vehicle selling price ranges between $15,000 and $17,000
“Our average price ranges by time of year and kind of how we manage the inventory, but somewhere between 15 and 17,000 dollars.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 12:27 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Sixty-five percent of Shift's car buyers utilize financing
“65% do financing.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 16:56 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Arison: Shift Will Launch Captive Lending by 2024 or 2025
“So eventually, you know, out in 20, 24, 25, we will do capital loans, but we just need to grow to be large enough before we can do that.”
George Arison Nov 26, 2020 ▶ 18:36 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next?

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Appearances (3)

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Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next? Nov 26, 2020 19m
1698 Shift Sells $200m Worth of Cars, Makes $30m, $225m Equity Raised, IPO Next? Mar 18, 2020 19m
EP 367: $94M Raised, Car Marketplace, 270 Employees with George Arison of Shift Jul 26, 2016 13m
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