The Exchanges

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Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85

Q I see. Okay. So through all of this, you essentially net call it, you know, 1.8 ish million, right? You now have your SAS company, you have the code, the early product, you put 600 grand into it. Where did you find the people? Did you take engineers from the agency?

A No. So, um, I think this is another great thing for people to hear. Um, whenever I got started on the mission, I decided that at this company, I was only going to find other people who are already on this mission. And everybody that works at clutch either reached out to us or they are people that were already working on a similar tool that I convinced to sort of merge in. So the first person that I found had was building a, um, a product called relax. And I found his open source repo on GitHub and it had 10,000 stars or something. It's very popular. And I didn't know where he was. He happened to be in Portugal. And I just said, Hey, join me. I'll fund this whole thing. Let's, let's do this for real. Why don't you quit your, quit your job? I'll, I'll cover your salary. And so, um, he came on, on board and then he's my co-founder in this entity. And then we had people just reaching out to us. They would see what we're doing and they would say, that is such a cool thing. I want to work on it. So we don't have a hiring page on our website at all. Um, everybody who has joined has had to reach out to me via LinkedIn or something else. And, um, that's what, that's what really keeps the team glued together.

AI assessment note: “No... everybody that works at clutch either reached out to us or they are people”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85

Q Okay, so between 20 16 and 20 19, you sunk about 600 grand of agency profits into development salaries to build this thing. You're now have spun it out. You're taking it to market. Do you have any idea what you're going to price it when you do launch a pricing page? You do launch real pricing?

A Yeah, so it'll be, uh, SAS, uh, the low end of this thing. We're looking at 40 dollars a month, um, for the first paid tier, and then 150 a month for the, uh, for a paid tier that comes with, like, enterprise level support and SLAs. And then there will be an enterprise tier, which is where the first customer is coming in, where we actually have engineers on our staff that will help you build interfaces, um, or do other things using the product. And that's where we found our... When we were out doing user, uh, customer discovery, they would all say this tool is phenomenal. Um, but really we have a shortage of front end engineers. Um, and so while the tool sort of helps with that, cause you need less of them, we still need them at all. And so we said, well, what if we staff that, what if we have front end engineers? Who will actually utilize this tool and, and, and sort of become a part of your team. And so that's going to be that enterprise here.

AI assessment note: “We're looking at 40 dollars a month... and then 150 a month”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85

Q That's interesting. Really interesting. Okay, good. So, so good. So you'll go to market here. And when do you think you'll launch pricing?

A Um, so we'll probably be launching a pricing page in the next couple of weeks. Um, for, we have a free tier, which is what everybody will go on. And during our beta, um, we're allowing a free forever tier, um, where so long as whatever you build stays open source and everybody else can fork it and clone it, um, then you can just use the product for free. And it's only whenever you want to start building private That you need to determine whether or not you want to pay 40 dollars a month and just it's self-serve or whether or not you want to pay the one 50 and be, uh, have our whole, um, support team behind you.

AI assessment note: “we'll probably be launching a pricing page in the next couple of weeks”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 4 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.30

Q So what the conversation sound like? Hey, fellas, we're doing five million. Buy me out. I mean, how did it work?

A Well, so I was draining a lot of our profit into the product. And, uh, so right off the bat, I was, um, I had the most equity. The partner with the second most equity really, uh, wanted to keep doing the agency model. And he's like, this thing is an ATM machine. It grows every year. Like why focus and do something risky? And I think I was burnt out. I was bored. I've been doing it for 12 years. And so there was sort of alignment. He'll take it. He'll keep running the, uh, the machine. And then I would split off and go, uh, buy, you know, for the amount that we've invested, I would buy the product out. And we go our separate ways. It did take well over a year. So my advice is you need to find somebody first off. So let me back this up. I had to hire a COO who could take over for me.

AI assessment note: “He'll keep running the, uh, the machine. And then I would split off”

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