The Exchanges

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Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85

Q Well, congrats. The hardest one is the first one. So you're already up to three. That's great. What are they paying for a month?

A Uh, so I have a couple different, um, like I'm really testing pricing and it's really depending on the company size and scale. Um, and so, um, you know, I have someone paying 20 bucks a month. I have another paying 99 per month. Um, and then someone in between. Um, so I'm figuring that out. It will either be a combination of like number of seats and or like number of tours or potentially, um, number of monthly active users, because that's kind of where my costs are going to scale. So I'm still figuring that out right now. It's just like a set price. Um, you know, if you're an indie hacker and you want to, you know, just try it out, then it's going to be like 20 bucks a month. But if you're a business and you want to remove the hopscotch branding, And you're kind of up and running, then that's when you look at like, 99 per month.

AI assessment note: “I have someone paying 20 bucks a month. I have another paying 99 per month.”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q Well, that's what I'm asking. Sell me the future. Like you, you didn't do this to just build a copy of something that already existed. You believe something like should exist that currently doesn't exist. What, once you reach feature parody, like, what are you gonna do differently that no one's doing right now?

A Yeah, totally. Um, so a lot of, you know, there's a lot of complaints and issues with product tours, and I think a lot of it is warranted. Um, you know, they can be too long. They can be just, uh, in the way, maybe they're there when you, uh, don't want them to be, but then when you do want that information, they're not available. And so a lot of what I intend to build with hopscotch is the ability to, um, you know, recall product tours at the right time, And kind of have these subtleties of being able to make it a better experience for the end user. So if someone does want tours, and they are that type of person who wants a little bit of handholding while they onboard into your app, then they can get it. And if they aren't, then we should get out of their way. And so I think there's a lot missing in the market there. So that's kind of where I'm planning on going with some of the functionality side.

AI assessment note: “what I intend to build with hopscotch is the ability to, um, you know, recall product tours at the right time”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q That's important. I mean, SEO is important. So taking back to that moment, now that we understand what you're working on, taking back to that moment in 2019 when you were laid off. I mean, what was going through your head when it happened?

A Oh man, I, it was, I was in a pretty good position where I wanted to go and do my own thing, but I wasn't quite ready. And I feel like you're never really ready. And so I wanted to, uh, have some more time with this job, but then it kind of got lifted out from under me. And so that was the perfect excuse to just go start doing my own thing. I, um, so I felt pretty lucky that I had some savings built up and I was In a place where I was just ready to go and try it. At the very worst, I would go and find another job. And, uh, and so that was, you know, it was a mix of like, really scared, but also like, what's the worst that can happen? And it kind of gave me the kick that I needed.

AI assessment note: “it was a mix of like, really scared, but also like, what's the worst”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q Cam, where did you get freelance work from? Do you go on like list yourself on top towel or one of these sites or how did you do it?

A I, you know, started looking, when I first started looking into freelancing, I was like, oh, I got to go on TopTal or, uh, you know, Upwork or something. But like those, I actually was lucky that I didn't get accepted to any of those. And so I ended up, my first client was the company that laid me off. I helped them for like another set number of hours on some work that they had. And then I found Another company, um, through a friend that is in the city here who is another web developer. I just let my network know, you know, on LinkedIn, on Twitter, on like Slack groups. I just said like, Hey, I'm a freelancer now. And like so many people don't do that, but if you just put it out there, then it starts coming your way. And I've been lucky enough that like, you know, you only need one or two clients like every so often, you know, I, I think I only needed like Five or six throughout the year last year to, to make a decent wage. And so, um, you know, it's really not that difficult. It's just getting, it's, it's a flywheel, getting that up and running and, and knowing, you know, who to reach out to, um, you know, maybe an old boss or an old coworker and then go from there.

AI assessment note: “my first client was the company that laid me off”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 4 · P 4 · Cm 3 4.15

Q And, and another, you know, the key thing is obviously how much you save, but it's also how much you keep. So it's about keeping your expenses really low as an entrepreneur, especially an indie hacker. How low up there in Canada were you able to keep your total living expenses per month back, back in 2019?

A So I don't track like super closely on this stuff, but I do, um, share, uh, I was sharing a one bedroom apartment with my partner and, uh, and it's around two K per month. And then, you know, maybe you would spend another thousand dollars or, or so on top of that. Um, but you know, sometimes that goes another like 2000 dollars a month, but yeah, I do try to keep my expenses, uh, low in comparison to like Even while I was built, while I was salaried, I would try to keep my expenses fairly low and stay in a relatively affordable place. That may sound expensive in some parts of the world, but, um, in Toronto, that's kind of like entry level for a one bedroom. So, um, so yeah, I was trying to just keep it low and I still continue to do that. And, um, and just especially now, yeah, without consistent income, it's important to just, uh, to keep chugging along at a good burn rate.

AI assessment note: “sharing a one bedroom apartment with my partner and, uh, and it's around two K”

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