Mar 3, 2025 · 35m · the-pitch
#4 Skylights
David Dicko · 11m spoken Josh Muccio · 10m spoken Howie Diamond · 2m spoken Jillian Manus · 2m spoken Jake Chapman · 1m spoken Sheel Mohnot · 1m spoken Phil Nadel · 34s spoken
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Former airline pilot David Dicko pitches Skylights, an in-flight virtual reality entertainment platform, to an investor panel on 'The Pitch' and earns a $250,000 offer. However, post-pitch communication breakdowns during due diligence ultimately derail the investment.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Josh holds 35.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Josh as informed peer 4.7 Guest teaching 5.0 Guest disagreement 2.4 Josh pushing back 5.3
speaking balance: gold is Josh, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 15:15 David rejects Jillian's low barrier assertion
David flatly rejects Jillian's claim that anyone can copy his business by insisting there is actually a very high barrier to entry.
Hardest push from Josh ▶ 30:57 Josh challenges David with Phil's character assessmentJosh directly quotes Phil's email stating that David going silent during diligence was a negative indicator of the founder's character.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:21 David explains studio early-window DRM restrictionsDavid explains the intricate Hollywood studio security standards required for early-window content that prevent tech giants from easily entering the cabin VR space.
Josh holds their own ▶ 23:33 Jillian lectures David on investor relations protocolJillian sternly corrects David's pitch etiquette, stating that his immediate response to a six-figure commitment must be gratitude rather than jumping to another slide.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Josh as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Josh pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Dicko Pitches Skylights In-Flight Virtual Reality | 2 | 6 | 1 | 1 | David opens his pitch by leveraging his deep airline background, surprising the room with specific airline operating data about the steep weight and cost penalties of seatback screens. Josh and the investors primarily listen as David sets up the core problem Skylights solves. | |
| Examining Passenger Demand and Early Airline Pilots | 4 | 6 | 2 | 5 | Howie and Sheel question whether passenger demand is merely novelty curiosity rather than sustained engagement. David counters effectively with quantitative results from four commercial airline pilot programs showing nearly four hours of average usage per flight. | |
| Headset Product Demo and Content Licensing Strategy | 5 | 7 | 4 | 6 | Jillian challenges the lack of patents while Howie questions what the actual business model is if hardware and content are both licensed. David systematically educates them on the five critical components required to operate in-flight entertainment and how Skylights disintermediates legacy monopolies. | |
| Defensibility, Studio Security, and Founding Team Moat | 6 | 8 | 5 | 7 | Jillian asserts that Skylights faces virtually zero barriers to entry and a one-year head start is meaningless. David directly disputes her premise, detailing the severe technical hurdles around studio DRM security for early-window movie licensing that keep competitors out. | |
| Deliberations Begin: Sheel Passes and Phil Invests $250K | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | Sheel gracefully passes due to skepticism about mainstream VR adoption on flights, while Phil praises David's mastery of the business and makes an immediate $250,000 investment offer. | |
| Expansion Pitch, Remaining Passes, and Jillian's Feedback | 5 | 2 | 2 | 6 | Howie, Jake, and Jillian pass after deliberating, citing market timing and consumer demand doubts. Jillian then delivers direct feedback rebuking David for failing to immediately express gratitude to Phil upon receiving the investment offer. | |
| Post-Pitch Follow-Up: The Broken Deal with Phil | 7 | 3 | 2 | 8 | In the follow-up debrief, Josh presses David on why his deal with Phil collapsed during due diligence. Josh reveals Phil's harsh critique regarding David's radio silence, prompting David to candidly admit his operational misstep. |
Statements from this episode (20)
Dicko: Seatback screens cost $20k each and add $1B in airline fuel
“They cost 20,000 dollars each, and they're so heavy that the airline industry spends one billion dollars in extra fuel cost just to fly them around.”
Skylights seeks $1.8M to scale in-flight VR to 100 daily flights
“We're raising 1.8 million dollars. The idea is to move from the 100 flights that we've done so far to a hundred flights a day.”
Dicko: Virtual reality has not found a killer use case outside gaming
“Very, very clearly, virtual reality is looking for its killer use case. It's found one in the gaming and is still looking for any other killer use case out there.”
Dicko: Skylights gets 50% business-class uptake averaging four hours
“We have one passenger out of two, and so when it's given out for free in business, we have about 50% uptake of four hours on average.”
Dicko: 75% of surveyed passengers prefer Skylights over seatback screens
“And we have about 75% of people who say yes, and of the same amount who prefer that to see back screens.”
Dicko: Skylights ran pilots with Air France, KLM, and two others
“So we've done it with Four airlines, Air France, KLM, On Your Air, and XL Airways.”
Dicko: Skylights is not a hardware company and holds no patents
“We're not a hardware company. The heart of the technology is not patentable. We basically commit to the airlines to use whatever hardware works.”
Dicko: Skylights holds distribution deals with Fox and DreamWorks
“We have a worldwide distribution agreement with 20th Century Fox and DreamWorks for that”
Dicko: Samsung and Netflix will not sell in-flight VR to airlines
“Let me tell you, Samsung's not going to do that. Netflix is not going to do that.”
Dicko: Skylights will be the top VR entertainment distributor in two years
“And so very, very strongly we are in a position, this is our point, we are in a position to, within the next two years, to become the number one virtual reality entertainment distributor in the world.”
Dicko: Three intermediaries sit between airlines and movie studios
“You have the hardware providers, then you have three intermediaries between the airlines and the original content owners, which are the studios.”
Dicko: Skylights competes with Thales, Panasonic, and Spafax
“We're competitors to Talos, to Panasonic, to Global Entertainment, to Spafax, to these intermediaries, yes.”
Dicko: Studio early-window licensing requires proving content will never leak
“To be able to have and to get access to early window content from the studios, you need to prove to them that the content that's on your devices will never ever end up on the internet.”
Mohnot: United Airlines is locked into a bad DirecTV contract
“I know that, like, United, for example, is locked into a shitty contract with DirecTV on a bunch of their planes.”
Diamond: In 5 to 10 years everyone will own in-home VR
“Just like you have a video game console, you have a at home entertainment console, everyone's going to have a VR in their homes, a VR headset. But I think we're a ways away from that. You know, I think we're like five or 10 years away from that, lowering that …”
Nadel: Commits $250,000 to invest in Skylights
“I'm going to keep it simple. I'm in. I want to be in, I like this deal. No, two 50.”
Dicko: Skylights launched its first train pilot in France
“We've done pilots in trains. We had the first pilot a couple weeks ago in, in, in France.”
Dicko: Consumer VR will not achieve ubiquitous adoption in five years
“Or you think that virtual reality is going to submerge the market and then in five years everyone's going to have a virtual reality headset. I don't think so, by the way.”