GPT-4

also referred to as: gpt-iv

includes GPT 4 Turbo

12 statements across 10 episodes · 4 bullish · 3 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Dec 6, 2024 by John Coogan · said 126 times in 48 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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brought up most by John Coogan (68), Flo Crivello (4), Sam Altman (3), Jordi Hays (3), Will Brown (2), Sholto Douglas (2), Packy McCormick (2), Marc Andreessen (2)

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2025 97 mentions in 33 episodes 3 per episode
2024 11 mentions in 6 episodes 2 per episode

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Everything said about GPT-4, oldest first

Dec 6, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Coogan: Ramp significantly accelerated receipt scanning using Google OCR and GPT-4
“Early on, I remember they were they were one of the huge beneficiaries of GPT-IV for the receipt scanning because they could just do exactly what we did with the red book where they would OCR it with Google, take all the text in the picture, and then throw tha…”
John Coogan Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 2:01:28 Inside Facebooks Secret "Red Book" (ep18)
Dec 11, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Coogan: OpenAI o1 is built on the GPT-4 foundation model
“The foundation model, yeah, it's still running GPT-IV, but obviously there's a lot of there's a lot of training to have that happens on top and a lot of UI stuff.”
John Coogan Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 2:36:12 How we became the fastest growing podcast (ep20)
Jan 23, 2025 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Coogan: AI training scaling laws show diminishing returns since GPT-4
“When you 10 X the energy and tokens and data and all the work on the training, you do get a smarter model, but the increases have been diminishing. So as you spend 10 times more, It, you don't get the same increase from GPT three to GPT four.”
John Coogan Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 28:30 Project Stargate, The T Word, Ramp Treasury, Audience Ad Reads, See You at Davos
Jan 25, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Coogan: DeepSeek's training data relies heavily on OpenAI's GPT-4 API
“I think the training data, a lot of it is synthetic data that's been pulled from the GPT-IV API.”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 41:53 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Jan 25, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Coogan: DeepSeek-V2 matched near-GPT-4 performance with one-twentieth the FLOPs
“DeepSeq V-II training required one-twentieth as much energy, essentially, one-twentieth the flops of GPT-IV, while not being far off in performance.”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 10:49 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Apr 25, 2025
What-if
Srinivas: Launching Perplexity around GPT-4 would have been too late
“You want to build at the right moment where, like, kind of, like, how we built perplexity around the GPT 3.5 time, not GPT four time. It would have been too late then.”
Aravind Srinivas Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 25:53 Perplexity Founder Explains What Comes Next - Aravind Srinivas on TBPN April 23rd
Apr 25, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Srinivas: Most ChatGPT users do not know o1 or GPT-4 differences
“In fact, most people using tracks between the world don't even know there's a model called O one or O three and don't even know what the difference is for GPT four.”
Aravind Srinivas Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 7:35 Perplexity Founder Explains What Comes Next - Aravind Srinivas on TBPN April 23rd
Apr 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Will Brown: Morgan Stanley deployed integrations on day GPT-4 launched
“Like, the day GPT-IV launched, Morgan Stanley had integrations, because we had been working on it, and these were, like, we had press releases for these, like, we are ready to go”
Will Brown Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 10:57 Why Humor Is the True Test of AI Intelligence | Will Brown on TBPN
Jun 7, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Douglas: Generalist models will obsolete specialized fine-tuned models
“I really do think that similar to how we saw with large pre-trained models before with small fine-tuned models made it like, had gains over the sort of GPT-II era, but then were obsoleted by GPT-IV being generally good at everything. I think, to be honest, you…”
Sholto Douglas Jun 7, 2025 ▶ 1:34:23 Weekly Recap - Elon Vs Trump, Ukraine's Drone Attack, Cluely Update & OpenAI CRO
Aug 8, 2025 bearish
What-if
Andreessen: Google Could Have Built a GPT-4 Level Chatbot by 2019
“I talked to somebody senior who was there at the time and I asked them, you know, when could you have had chat GPT with GPT four level output if you had just gotten, you know, gone, gone flat out starting in 2017. And they said by 2019.”
Marc Andreessen Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 5:47 Marc Andreessen on Why Apple Might Miss the Next Platform Shift
Aug 9, 2025 negative
What-if
Andreessen: Google could have built a GPT-4-level ChatGPT by 2019
“Google developed the transformer in 2017. And then they basically let it sit on the shelf, right? Cause it was a research project. They didn't productize it. They were very worried about, you know, from people I've talked to, they were very worried about the, …”
Marc Andreessen Aug 9, 2025 ▶ 1:11:03 Weekly Recap: Apple Sitting on $100B, Disney Enters The AI Race, Marc Andreessen, All About GPT-5
Oct 10, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Altman: OpenAI knows how to build a GPT-4 equivalent for video
“It was really not until GPT-IV where these text models started providing real value for people, and we know how to go make the GPT-IV equivalent of video models, and we will do that, and then a lot of these things that are currently annoying, like doors, or, y…”
Sam Altman Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 5:58 Sam Altman on Sora, Social Media, The Future of AI, and More
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