Executive coach Julian Marzouk explains to Rob Walling why pure operator mentorship differs from dedicated coaching for scaling SaaS founders.
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Marzouk: Executive coaches must offer direct guidance alongside Socratic questioning
“I think there's the myth of the coach is not supposed to give guidance. They're supposed to only ask questions. I believe that for founders at this stage, it's actually very important to be able to wear both hats, to be able to be really asking questions, gett…”
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Marzouk: $1M–$3M SaaS founders seek coaching because existing operating methods break
“Usually they're, like, done going about it alone. At this stage, they usually feel pretty lonely if they're around one to three million isolated, and they want a thinking partner, they need help, because usually their lives has become miserable, and overall, t…”
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Marzouk: Scaling past $3M ARR requires founders to stop driving all growth
“Basically, at one to three million, the founder is the growth engine. They're the ones who've built the growth, who've been doing it all. The problem is that in order to get to ten million, it needs to change. They need to be able to remove themselves from the…”
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Marzouk: Founders spending over 40% in one function struggle to delegate
“Every time there's a function that's beyond 40% in time spent in sales, product, marketing, you know it's gonna be a topic, and it's gonna take some work for them to actually Let go.”
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Marzouk: Solving employees' problems trains them to make founders the bottleneck
“When you do that, what you're actually doing is you're teaching your team members, bring me problems instead of solutions. And so you cannot grow like that. Basically, you are just in this loop where you are still the bottleneck.”
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Marzouk: Founders should delegate via the 10-80-10 rule
“The first one that I love, that I use very often, is the ten-eighty-ten rule. Basically just, you know, get involved in the first 10% of the task and the last 10% of the task. The 80% in the middle are your team member's responsibility. So be there to help fra…”