Dec 26, 2023 · 28m · startups-for-the-rest-of-us

Episode 693 | Building a Mid-Six-Figure SaaS in Less Than 3 Years

Grant McConaughey · 14m spoken Rob Walling · 11m spoken
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In this episode of Startups for the Rest of Us, host Rob Walling interviews Grant McConaughey, founder of Postpone, on how he scaled a bootstrapped Reddit scheduler into a mid-six-figure ARR SaaS business through unscalable early outreach, strategic price increases, and proactive platform diversification.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Rob holds 43.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Rob as informed peer 5.5 Guest teaching 1.8 Guest disagreement 0.3 Rob pushing back 0.8
05100:0010:0020:001:20–5:10 · Rob as informed peer 6/10 Origins of Postpone and Scratching an Itch Grant gently corrects Rob's timeline regarding when development began (2020 vs 2021). Rob shares his startup framework on the risks of scratching your own itch without validating customer demand.5:10–7:46 · Rob as informed peer 5/10 Shipping the MVP and First Paying Customer Rob relates Grant's 10-week MVP launch to his stair-step methodology. The discussion remains completely collaborative as Grant describes landing his first $8 customer.7:51–10:12 · Rob as informed peer 4/10 Early Growth Tactics and Reaching $1k MRR Grant explains his non-scalable early tactic of using the Reddit API to find frequent posters and sending targeted cold DMs. Rob validates the hustle required to get to $1k MRR.10:12–13:15 · Rob as informed peer 5/10 Going Full-Time and Joining TinySeed Rob and Grant discuss the impact of quitting Zapier and joining TinySeed. Rob playfully probes whether extreme focus was truly the differentiator over launching multiple side apps.13:19–18:06 · Rob as informed peer 6/10 Raising Prices and Adding Agency Tiers Grant outlines how he raised prices and introduced agency plans while grandfathering existing users. Rob explains the common psychological block founders face when considering price increases.18:06–22:08 · Rob as informed peer 8/10 SaaS Pricing Strategy and Premium Value Rob demonstrates deep SaaS domain authority, citing data across 171 portfolio companies and his historical Drip pricing evaluation notebook method. Grant agrees with the positioning value of not being the cheapest tool.22:08–26:06 · Rob as informed peer 6/10 Navigating Reddit API Changes and Diversification Grant and Rob discuss the Reddit and Twitter API pricing crises. Grant corrects the initial Twitter API pricing figure ($42k) and educates on why third-party mobile clients faced existential doom while Postpone survived.26:06–28:07 · Rob as informed peer 4/10 Founder Lessons on Prioritizing Marketing Grant shares retrospective founder advice about allocating more effort toward marketing rather than pure development. Rob completes the book citation and wraps up smoothly.1:20–5:10 · Guest teaching 2/10 Origins of Postpone and Scratching an Itch Grant gently corrects Rob's timeline regarding when development began (2020 vs 2021). Rob shares his startup framework on the risks of scratching your own itch without validating customer demand.5:10–7:46 · Guest teaching 1/10 Shipping the MVP and First Paying Customer Rob relates Grant's 10-week MVP launch to his stair-step methodology. The discussion remains completely collaborative as Grant describes landing his first $8 customer.7:51–10:12 · Guest teaching 2/10 Early Growth Tactics and Reaching $1k MRR Grant explains his non-scalable early tactic of using the Reddit API to find frequent posters and sending targeted cold DMs. Rob validates the hustle required to get to $1k MRR.10:12–13:15 · Guest teaching 1/10 Going Full-Time and Joining TinySeed Rob and Grant discuss the impact of quitting Zapier and joining TinySeed. Rob playfully probes whether extreme focus was truly the differentiator over launching multiple side apps.13:19–18:06 · Guest teaching 2/10 Raising Prices and Adding Agency Tiers Grant outlines how he raised prices and introduced agency plans while grandfathering existing users. Rob explains the common psychological block founders face when considering price increases.18:06–22:08 · Guest teaching 1/10 SaaS Pricing Strategy and Premium Value Rob demonstrates deep SaaS domain authority, citing data across 171 portfolio companies and his historical Drip pricing evaluation notebook method. Grant agrees with the positioning value of not being the cheapest tool.22:08–26:06 · Guest teaching 3/10 Navigating Reddit API Changes and Diversification Grant and Rob discuss the Reddit and Twitter API pricing crises. Grant corrects the initial Twitter API pricing figure ($42k) and educates on why third-party mobile clients faced existential doom while Postpone survived.26:06–28:07 · Guest teaching 2/10 Founder Lessons on Prioritizing Marketing Grant shares retrospective founder advice about allocating more effort toward marketing rather than pure development. Rob completes the book citation and wraps up smoothly.1:20–5:10 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Origins of Postpone and Scratching an Itch Grant gently corrects Rob's timeline regarding when development began (2020 vs 2021). Rob shares his startup framework on the risks of scratching your own itch without validating customer demand.5:10–7:46 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Shipping the MVP and First Paying Customer Rob relates Grant's 10-week MVP launch to his stair-step methodology. The discussion remains completely collaborative as Grant describes landing his first $8 customer.7:51–10:12 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Early Growth Tactics and Reaching $1k MRR Grant explains his non-scalable early tactic of using the Reddit API to find frequent posters and sending targeted cold DMs. Rob validates the hustle required to get to $1k MRR.10:12–13:15 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Going Full-Time and Joining TinySeed Rob and Grant discuss the impact of quitting Zapier and joining TinySeed. Rob playfully probes whether extreme focus was truly the differentiator over launching multiple side apps.13:19–18:06 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Raising Prices and Adding Agency Tiers Grant outlines how he raised prices and introduced agency plans while grandfathering existing users. Rob explains the common psychological block founders face when considering price increases.18:06–22:08 · Guest disagreement 0/10 SaaS Pricing Strategy and Premium Value Rob demonstrates deep SaaS domain authority, citing data across 171 portfolio companies and his historical Drip pricing evaluation notebook method. Grant agrees with the positioning value of not being the cheapest tool.22:08–26:06 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Navigating Reddit API Changes and Diversification Grant and Rob discuss the Reddit and Twitter API pricing crises. Grant corrects the initial Twitter API pricing figure ($42k) and educates on why third-party mobile clients faced existential doom while Postpone survived.26:06–28:07 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Founder Lessons on Prioritizing Marketing Grant shares retrospective founder advice about allocating more effort toward marketing rather than pure development. Rob completes the book citation and wraps up smoothly.1:20–5:10 · Rob pushing back 2/10 Origins of Postpone and Scratching an Itch Grant gently corrects Rob's timeline regarding when development began (2020 vs 2021). Rob shares his startup framework on the risks of scratching your own itch without validating customer demand.5:10–7:46 · Rob pushing back 0/10 Shipping the MVP and First Paying Customer Rob relates Grant's 10-week MVP launch to his stair-step methodology. The discussion remains completely collaborative as Grant describes landing his first $8 customer.7:51–10:12 · Rob pushing back 0/10 Early Growth Tactics and Reaching $1k MRR Grant explains his non-scalable early tactic of using the Reddit API to find frequent posters and sending targeted cold DMs. Rob validates the hustle required to get to $1k MRR.10:12–13:15 · Rob pushing back 1/10 Going Full-Time and Joining TinySeed Rob and Grant discuss the impact of quitting Zapier and joining TinySeed. Rob playfully probes whether extreme focus was truly the differentiator over launching multiple side apps.13:19–18:06 · Rob pushing back 1/10 Raising Prices and Adding Agency Tiers Grant outlines how he raised prices and introduced agency plans while grandfathering existing users. Rob explains the common psychological block founders face when considering price increases.18:06–22:08 · Rob pushing back 1/10 SaaS Pricing Strategy and Premium Value Rob demonstrates deep SaaS domain authority, citing data across 171 portfolio companies and his historical Drip pricing evaluation notebook method. Grant agrees with the positioning value of not being the cheapest tool.22:08–26:06 · Rob pushing back 1/10 Navigating Reddit API Changes and Diversification Grant and Rob discuss the Reddit and Twitter API pricing crises. Grant corrects the initial Twitter API pricing figure ($42k) and educates on why third-party mobile clients faced existential doom while Postpone survived.26:06–28:07 · Rob pushing back 0/10 Founder Lessons on Prioritizing Marketing Grant shares retrospective founder advice about allocating more effort toward marketing rather than pure development. Rob completes the book citation and wraps up smoothly.

speaking balance: gold is Rob, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Rob 77.2% · guest 22.8%0:00 · Rob 77.2% · guest 22.8%3:00 · Rob 27.2% · guest 72.8%3:00 · Rob 27.2% · guest 72.8%6:00 · Rob 38.7% · guest 61.3%6:00 · Rob 38.7% · guest 61.3%9:00 · Rob 27.8% · guest 72.2%9:00 · Rob 27.8% · guest 72.2%12:00 · Rob 43.9% · guest 56.1%12:00 · Rob 43.9% · guest 56.1%15:00 · Rob 24.1% · guest 75.9%15:00 · Rob 24.1% · guest 75.9%18:00 · Rob 70.6% · guest 29.4%18:00 · Rob 70.6% · guest 29.4%21:00 · Rob 52.8% · guest 47.2%21:00 · Rob 52.8% · guest 47.2%24:00 · Rob 26.1% · guest 73.9%24:00 · Rob 26.1% · guest 73.9%27:00 · Rob 50.4% · guest 49.6%27:00 · Rob 50.4% · guest 49.6%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 2:23 Grant corrects founding year

In a very cordial interview, the most explicit pushback comes when Grant clarifies that he launched Postpone in January 2020 rather than 2021 as Rob stated.

Hardest push from Rob ▶ 3:58 Rob challenges scratch-your-own-itch premise

Rob resists the simplistic narrative of scratching your own itch, warning that building solely for oneself often leads to unsellable products without external customer validation.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 23:40 Grant breaks down API impact on B2C vs B2B apps

Grant educates the audience and host on the economics of API rate limits, explaining why high-volume free B2C clients went under while B2B tools with higher ARPU easily absorbed the costs.

Rob holds their own ▶ 20:25 Rob shares SaaS pricing cadence frameworks

Rob demonstrates extensive operational expertise, referencing empirical data from 170+ investments and sharing his tactical notebook system for monitoring competitor pricing.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicRob as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementRob pushing backWhy
Origins of Postpone and Scratching an Itch 6212 Grant gently corrects Rob's timeline regarding when development began (2020 vs 2021). Rob shares his startup framework on the risks of scratching your own itch without validating customer demand.
Shipping the MVP and First Paying Customer 5100 Rob relates Grant's 10-week MVP launch to his stair-step methodology. The discussion remains completely collaborative as Grant describes landing his first $8 customer.
Early Growth Tactics and Reaching $1k MRR 4200 Grant explains his non-scalable early tactic of using the Reddit API to find frequent posters and sending targeted cold DMs. Rob validates the hustle required to get to $1k MRR.
Going Full-Time and Joining TinySeed 5101 Rob and Grant discuss the impact of quitting Zapier and joining TinySeed. Rob playfully probes whether extreme focus was truly the differentiator over launching multiple side apps.
Raising Prices and Adding Agency Tiers 6201 Grant outlines how he raised prices and introduced agency plans while grandfathering existing users. Rob explains the common psychological block founders face when considering price increases.
SaaS Pricing Strategy and Premium Value 8101 Rob demonstrates deep SaaS domain authority, citing data across 171 portfolio companies and his historical Drip pricing evaluation notebook method. Grant agrees with the positioning value of not being the cheapest tool.
Navigating Reddit API Changes and Diversification 6311 Grant and Rob discuss the Reddit and Twitter API pricing crises. Grant corrects the initial Twitter API pricing figure ($42k) and educates on why third-party mobile clients faced existential doom while Postpone survived.
Founder Lessons on Prioritizing Marketing 4200 Grant shares retrospective founder advice about allocating more effort toward marketing rather than pure development. Rob completes the book citation and wraps up smoothly.

Statements from this episode (10)

Insight
Walling: Validate 'scratch your own itch' ideas with 10 potential users
“If someone comes to me with a scratch your own itch, I usually say, great, now find 10 other people who need it, you know, do some validation. It's not a hard and fast rule, but it gives you a little more certainty that it might Be actually valuable.”
Rob Walling Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 4:13
Insight
Walling: Shipping a fast MVP is an effective form of product validation
“If I can just ship, that's actually a pretty quick way to validate. You know, maybe I'd have one conversation, or maybe I'd do a little less, but it's not like, if I have to go six months, I need to know that there's going to be some type of traction for this.”
Rob Walling Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 6:26
Assertion Not checkable as stated
McConaughey: Postpone reached mid-six figures ARR with a team of three
“I'm the only founder, but have since found a software engineer who's excellent. I've worked with him before and a support person, and we're now at, you know, in the mid six figures ARR range and growing pretty well.”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 8:00
Disclosure
Postpone exceeded $10K MRR when McConaughey left Zapier
“Yeah, I was north of 10 K MRR at the time I quit, and funny enough, I actually put my notice in at Zapier, this is like October of twenty-twenty-two, before getting accepted into TinySeed, and then a week later, got the email from you all that I had been accep…”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 10:29
Insight
McConaughey: SaaS companies should not cap pricing tiers at $99
“Just don't have your highest tier be 99 dollars a month because then no one can pay you more than 99 dollars a month.”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 16:13
Assertion Not checkable as stated
McConaughey: Agency clients pay more and churn less than individual creators
“It was a really missed opportunity for a long time to bring in these agencies who are willing to pay more and churn less often as well, so it's been really big for postpones ARR.”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 16:44
Assertion Not checkable as stated
McConaughey: Postpone's subscription volume increased after raising prices
“We raised prices and number of subscriptions went up as well, which seemed completely countered to me, but we, that's what had happened over the next few months as well.”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 17:56
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Walling: Portfolio founders almost never have to roll back price increases
“I cannot remember, I've had people raise prices and need to change the, oh, we got the value metric wrong, or like we need to tweak We need to do some stuff, but to raise prices and then truly roll back, I don't know that I remember a time when that's happened”
Rob Walling Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 19:12
Insight
Walling: Fast-moving SaaS companies must evaluate pricing annually to avoid falling behind
“Fast moving space like yours, I do think that if you're not at pretty seriously considering changing your prices raising them or tweaking value metric about every year, I think you're gonna fall behind a little bit.”
Rob Walling Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 21:09
What-if
McConaughey: I should have spent 3x more on marketing Postpone
“If I could go back, I would tell myself to spend three times as much as I'm spending on marketing over the last couple of years, whether that's working on SEO, building landing pages, especially signing up for affiliate programs that their users can join and t…”
Grant McConaughey Dec 26, 2023 ▶ 26:52
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