Jul 23, 2025 · 40m · startup-ideas

The 6 Best AI Agency Niches to Make $50K/mo (Data-Backed)

Cody Schneider · 30m spoken Greg Isenberg · 7m spoken
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Greg Isenberg and Cody Schneider break down six data-backed, productized AI agency business models engineered to generate $40,000 to $80,000 in monthly recurring revenue. They outline exact technical software stacks, niche selection criteria, and customer acquisition playbooks for lean teams building scalable service businesses.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Greg holds 19.4% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Greg as informed peer 4.1 Guest teaching 5.2 Guest disagreement 1.6 Greg pushing back 0.7
05100:0015:0030:000:50–3:12 · Greg as informed peer 3/10 Why Productized Services Beat AI Automation Agencies Cody forcefully dismisses the AI automation agency trend as a tar pit due to one-time project revenue and high sales friction, advocating for productized recurring services instead. Greg prompts him to unpack the economics and scope of the opportunity.3:13–5:58 · Greg as informed peer 2/10 Niche 1: Med Spa Marketing Opportunity and Economics Cody provides specific unit economics on med spas ($1.4M-$2M per location revenue and $6k LTV) and explains the core acquisition levers of local SEO and social ads. Greg facilitates with a brief mid-segment platform sponsorship read.5:59–10:50 · Greg as informed peer 2/10 Executing Med Spa Agencies: AI Tools and Acquisition Cody breaks down the end-to-end execution workflow using Perplexity for Reddit scraping, HeyGen/Arcads for video creative, and Local Rank for map pack optimization. Greg listens and affirms the tool recommendations.10:50–13:50 · Greg as informed peer 7/10 Faceless Video Formats and Organic Social Video Strategies Greg steps into an expert role, pulling up RealFarm.ai and citing his own data point of gaining 195k likes from a static tweet with audio overlay. Cody validates Greg's observations regarding current platform algorithm preferences.13:51–17:41 · Greg as informed peer 2/10 Niche 2: AI Video Ads for Beauty Brands Cody pitches AI video ads for beauty e-commerce, introducing Make UGC.ai to solve physical product-holding in AI videos. Greg admits he has not seen the tool yet and lets Cody walk through the business model.17:42–21:32 · Greg as informed peer 7/10 Ad Directories and Growth Flywheels for Agencies Cody criticizes competitor ad scraping directories as an incestuous ecosystem that hurts creative differentiation. Greg pushes back with an SEO acquisition angle and explains how hyper-verticalized niche ad libraries remain highly effective.21:33–25:04 · Greg as informed peer 2/10 Niche 3: Social Media Automation for Nutrition Coaches Cody outlines social media automation for nutrition coaches, proposing AI food recipe generation on Pinterest and client approval workflows. Greg asks for a live demo of MeetAssembly to see how the client approval portal functions.25:05–29:34 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Niche 4: Repurposing B2B Webinars into Lead Magnets Greg notes audience skepticism toward webinars, but Cody forcefully argues that short-form video fundamentally cannot sell high-ticket services ($5k-$10k+), citing his experience scaling webinars at Rupa Health to 6,000 registrants.29:34–32:31 · Greg as informed peer 2/10 Niche 5: On-Demand Data Analytics for Small Businesses Cody describes an on-demand data analytics agency for small businesses using MCP integrations and his new tool Graft. Cody then turns the tables to ask Greg what emerging technology he is most excited about.32:32–36:40 · Greg as informed peer 8/10 The Future of AI Agents and Voice-First Interfaces Greg takes center stage to explain the shift toward last-mile browser-operating AI agents and conversational interfaces like Grok companion. Cody strongly agrees and describes his own shift toward voice-first tools like Super Whisper.36:41–40:28 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Branded AI Voice Agents with Personality and Lore Cody provides examples of branded voice agents with localized accents for pizzerias and clinics, while Greg riffs on the need for agents with distinct personality and humor. Both conclude on the agency opportunity in voice setup.0:50–3:12 · Guest teaching 5/10 Why Productized Services Beat AI Automation Agencies Cody forcefully dismisses the AI automation agency trend as a tar pit due to one-time project revenue and high sales friction, advocating for productized recurring services instead. Greg prompts him to unpack the economics and scope of the opportunity.3:13–5:58 · Guest teaching 6/10 Niche 1: Med Spa Marketing Opportunity and Economics Cody provides specific unit economics on med spas ($1.4M-$2M per location revenue and $6k LTV) and explains the core acquisition levers of local SEO and social ads. Greg facilitates with a brief mid-segment platform sponsorship read.5:59–10:50 · Guest teaching 7/10 Executing Med Spa Agencies: AI Tools and Acquisition Cody breaks down the end-to-end execution workflow using Perplexity for Reddit scraping, HeyGen/Arcads for video creative, and Local Rank for map pack optimization. Greg listens and affirms the tool recommendations.10:50–13:50 · Guest teaching 3/10 Faceless Video Formats and Organic Social Video Strategies Greg steps into an expert role, pulling up RealFarm.ai and citing his own data point of gaining 195k likes from a static tweet with audio overlay. Cody validates Greg's observations regarding current platform algorithm preferences.13:51–17:41 · Guest teaching 6/10 Niche 2: AI Video Ads for Beauty Brands Cody pitches AI video ads for beauty e-commerce, introducing Make UGC.ai to solve physical product-holding in AI videos. Greg admits he has not seen the tool yet and lets Cody walk through the business model.17:42–21:32 · Guest teaching 5/10 Ad Directories and Growth Flywheels for Agencies Cody criticizes competitor ad scraping directories as an incestuous ecosystem that hurts creative differentiation. Greg pushes back with an SEO acquisition angle and explains how hyper-verticalized niche ad libraries remain highly effective.21:33–25:04 · Guest teaching 6/10 Niche 3: Social Media Automation for Nutrition Coaches Cody outlines social media automation for nutrition coaches, proposing AI food recipe generation on Pinterest and client approval workflows. Greg asks for a live demo of MeetAssembly to see how the client approval portal functions.25:05–29:34 · Guest teaching 6/10 Niche 4: Repurposing B2B Webinars into Lead Magnets Greg notes audience skepticism toward webinars, but Cody forcefully argues that short-form video fundamentally cannot sell high-ticket services ($5k-$10k+), citing his experience scaling webinars at Rupa Health to 6,000 registrants.29:34–32:31 · Guest teaching 6/10 Niche 5: On-Demand Data Analytics for Small Businesses Cody describes an on-demand data analytics agency for small businesses using MCP integrations and his new tool Graft. Cody then turns the tables to ask Greg what emerging technology he is most excited about.32:32–36:40 · Guest teaching 2/10 The Future of AI Agents and Voice-First Interfaces Greg takes center stage to explain the shift toward last-mile browser-operating AI agents and conversational interfaces like Grok companion. Cody strongly agrees and describes his own shift toward voice-first tools like Super Whisper.36:41–40:28 · Guest teaching 5/10 Branded AI Voice Agents with Personality and Lore Cody provides examples of branded voice agents with localized accents for pizzerias and clinics, while Greg riffs on the need for agents with distinct personality and humor. Both conclude on the agency opportunity in voice setup.0:50–3:12 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Why Productized Services Beat AI Automation Agencies Cody forcefully dismisses the AI automation agency trend as a tar pit due to one-time project revenue and high sales friction, advocating for productized recurring services instead. Greg prompts him to unpack the economics and scope of the opportunity.3:13–5:58 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Niche 1: Med Spa Marketing Opportunity and Economics Cody provides specific unit economics on med spas ($1.4M-$2M per location revenue and $6k LTV) and explains the core acquisition levers of local SEO and social ads. Greg facilitates with a brief mid-segment platform sponsorship read.5:59–10:50 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Executing Med Spa Agencies: AI Tools and Acquisition Cody breaks down the end-to-end execution workflow using Perplexity for Reddit scraping, HeyGen/Arcads for video creative, and Local Rank for map pack optimization. Greg listens and affirms the tool recommendations.10:50–13:50 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Faceless Video Formats and Organic Social Video Strategies Greg steps into an expert role, pulling up RealFarm.ai and citing his own data point of gaining 195k likes from a static tweet with audio overlay. Cody validates Greg's observations regarding current platform algorithm preferences.13:51–17:41 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Niche 2: AI Video Ads for Beauty Brands Cody pitches AI video ads for beauty e-commerce, introducing Make UGC.ai to solve physical product-holding in AI videos. Greg admits he has not seen the tool yet and lets Cody walk through the business model.17:42–21:32 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Ad Directories and Growth Flywheels for Agencies Cody criticizes competitor ad scraping directories as an incestuous ecosystem that hurts creative differentiation. Greg pushes back with an SEO acquisition angle and explains how hyper-verticalized niche ad libraries remain highly effective.21:33–25:04 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Niche 3: Social Media Automation for Nutrition Coaches Cody outlines social media automation for nutrition coaches, proposing AI food recipe generation on Pinterest and client approval workflows. Greg asks for a live demo of MeetAssembly to see how the client approval portal functions.25:05–29:34 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Niche 4: Repurposing B2B Webinars into Lead Magnets Greg notes audience skepticism toward webinars, but Cody forcefully argues that short-form video fundamentally cannot sell high-ticket services ($5k-$10k+), citing his experience scaling webinars at Rupa Health to 6,000 registrants.29:34–32:31 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Niche 5: On-Demand Data Analytics for Small Businesses Cody describes an on-demand data analytics agency for small businesses using MCP integrations and his new tool Graft. Cody then turns the tables to ask Greg what emerging technology he is most excited about.32:32–36:40 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Future of AI Agents and Voice-First Interfaces Greg takes center stage to explain the shift toward last-mile browser-operating AI agents and conversational interfaces like Grok companion. Cody strongly agrees and describes his own shift toward voice-first tools like Super Whisper.36:41–40:28 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Branded AI Voice Agents with Personality and Lore Cody provides examples of branded voice agents with localized accents for pizzerias and clinics, while Greg riffs on the need for agents with distinct personality and humor. Both conclude on the agency opportunity in voice setup.0:50–3:12 · Greg pushing back 1/10 Why Productized Services Beat AI Automation Agencies Cody forcefully dismisses the AI automation agency trend as a tar pit due to one-time project revenue and high sales friction, advocating for productized recurring services instead. Greg prompts him to unpack the economics and scope of the opportunity.3:13–5:58 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Niche 1: Med Spa Marketing Opportunity and Economics Cody provides specific unit economics on med spas ($1.4M-$2M per location revenue and $6k LTV) and explains the core acquisition levers of local SEO and social ads. Greg facilitates with a brief mid-segment platform sponsorship read.5:59–10:50 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Executing Med Spa Agencies: AI Tools and Acquisition Cody breaks down the end-to-end execution workflow using Perplexity for Reddit scraping, HeyGen/Arcads for video creative, and Local Rank for map pack optimization. Greg listens and affirms the tool recommendations.10:50–13:50 · Greg pushing back 1/10 Faceless Video Formats and Organic Social Video Strategies Greg steps into an expert role, pulling up RealFarm.ai and citing his own data point of gaining 195k likes from a static tweet with audio overlay. Cody validates Greg's observations regarding current platform algorithm preferences.13:51–17:41 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Niche 2: AI Video Ads for Beauty Brands Cody pitches AI video ads for beauty e-commerce, introducing Make UGC.ai to solve physical product-holding in AI videos. Greg admits he has not seen the tool yet and lets Cody walk through the business model.17:42–21:32 · Greg pushing back 4/10 Ad Directories and Growth Flywheels for Agencies Cody criticizes competitor ad scraping directories as an incestuous ecosystem that hurts creative differentiation. Greg pushes back with an SEO acquisition angle and explains how hyper-verticalized niche ad libraries remain highly effective.21:33–25:04 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Niche 3: Social Media Automation for Nutrition Coaches Cody outlines social media automation for nutrition coaches, proposing AI food recipe generation on Pinterest and client approval workflows. Greg asks for a live demo of MeetAssembly to see how the client approval portal functions.25:05–29:34 · Greg pushing back 2/10 Niche 4: Repurposing B2B Webinars into Lead Magnets Greg notes audience skepticism toward webinars, but Cody forcefully argues that short-form video fundamentally cannot sell high-ticket services ($5k-$10k+), citing his experience scaling webinars at Rupa Health to 6,000 registrants.29:34–32:31 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Niche 5: On-Demand Data Analytics for Small Businesses Cody describes an on-demand data analytics agency for small businesses using MCP integrations and his new tool Graft. Cody then turns the tables to ask Greg what emerging technology he is most excited about.32:32–36:40 · Greg pushing back 0/10 The Future of AI Agents and Voice-First Interfaces Greg takes center stage to explain the shift toward last-mile browser-operating AI agents and conversational interfaces like Grok companion. Cody strongly agrees and describes his own shift toward voice-first tools like Super Whisper.36:41–40:28 · Greg pushing back 0/10 Branded AI Voice Agents with Personality and Lore Cody provides examples of branded voice agents with localized accents for pizzerias and clinics, while Greg riffs on the need for agents with distinct personality and humor. Both conclude on the agency opportunity in voice setup.

speaking balance: gold is Greg, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Greg 43.5% · guest 56.5%0:00 · Greg 43.5% · guest 56.5%3:00 · Greg 43% · guest 57%3:00 · Greg 43% · guest 57%6:00 · Greg 0.2% · guest 99.8%6:00 · Greg 0.2% · guest 99.8%9:00 · Greg 11.7% · guest 88.3%9:00 · Greg 11.7% · guest 88.3%12:00 · Greg 32.4% · guest 67.6%12:00 · Greg 32.4% · guest 67.6%15:00 · Greg 5.4% · guest 94.6%15:00 · Greg 5.4% · guest 94.6%18:00 · Greg 24.5% · guest 75.5%18:00 · Greg 24.5% · guest 75.5%21:00 · Greg 1.5% · guest 98.5%21:00 · Greg 1.5% · guest 98.5%24:00 · Greg 2.5% · guest 97.5%24:00 · Greg 2.5% · guest 97.5%27:00 · Greg 13.2% · guest 86.8%27:00 · Greg 13.2% · guest 86.8%30:00 · Greg 5.7% · guest 94.3%30:00 · Greg 5.7% · guest 94.3%33:00 · Greg 39.6% · guest 60.4%33:00 · Greg 39.6% · guest 60.4%36:00 · Greg 21.4% · guest 78.6%36:00 · Greg 21.4% · guest 78.6%39:00 · Greg 32.5% · guest 67.5%39:00 · Greg 32.5% · guest 67.5%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 28:07 Rejecting short-form video for high-ticket sales

Cody bluntly shuts down the premise that short-form content can close high-ticket clients, insisting there is zero percent chance of converting five-to-ten thousand dollar retainers without long-form educational bridges like webinars.

Hardest push from Greg ▶ 20:11 Greg defending hyper-niche ad directories

After Cody dismisses ad libraries as unoriginal copycat traps, Greg pushes back by outlining how hyper-verticalized niche directories create dominant SEO acquisition channels.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 1:39 Deconstructing the flawed economics of AI automation agencies

Cody clearly breaks down why standard AI automation agencies fail within 12 to 18 months due to non-recurring project fees, heavy sales friction, and lead generation bottlenecks.

Greg holds their own ▶ 12:37 Greg proving the power of static audio content with live metrics

Greg demonstrates his direct domain authority in distribution by citing his 195k-like viral post using static imagery and audio, defining the exact storytelling edge required over generic tools.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicGreg as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementGreg pushing backWhy
Why Productized Services Beat AI Automation Agencies 3531 Cody forcefully dismisses the AI automation agency trend as a tar pit due to one-time project revenue and high sales friction, advocating for productized recurring services instead. Greg prompts him to unpack the economics and scope of the opportunity.
Niche 1: Med Spa Marketing Opportunity and Economics 2610 Cody provides specific unit economics on med spas ($1.4M-$2M per location revenue and $6k LTV) and explains the core acquisition levers of local SEO and social ads. Greg facilitates with a brief mid-segment platform sponsorship read.
Executing Med Spa Agencies: AI Tools and Acquisition 2710 Cody breaks down the end-to-end execution workflow using Perplexity for Reddit scraping, HeyGen/Arcads for video creative, and Local Rank for map pack optimization. Greg listens and affirms the tool recommendations.
Faceless Video Formats and Organic Social Video Strategies 7311 Greg steps into an expert role, pulling up RealFarm.ai and citing his own data point of gaining 195k likes from a static tweet with audio overlay. Cody validates Greg's observations regarding current platform algorithm preferences.
Niche 2: AI Video Ads for Beauty Brands 2610 Cody pitches AI video ads for beauty e-commerce, introducing Make UGC.ai to solve physical product-holding in AI videos. Greg admits he has not seen the tool yet and lets Cody walk through the business model.
Ad Directories and Growth Flywheels for Agencies 7544 Cody criticizes competitor ad scraping directories as an incestuous ecosystem that hurts creative differentiation. Greg pushes back with an SEO acquisition angle and explains how hyper-verticalized niche ad libraries remain highly effective.
Niche 3: Social Media Automation for Nutrition Coaches 2610 Cody outlines social media automation for nutrition coaches, proposing AI food recipe generation on Pinterest and client approval workflows. Greg asks for a live demo of MeetAssembly to see how the client approval portal functions.
Niche 4: Repurposing B2B Webinars into Lead Magnets 5642 Greg notes audience skepticism toward webinars, but Cody forcefully argues that short-form video fundamentally cannot sell high-ticket services ($5k-$10k+), citing his experience scaling webinars at Rupa Health to 6,000 registrants.
Niche 5: On-Demand Data Analytics for Small Businesses 2610 Cody describes an on-demand data analytics agency for small businesses using MCP integrations and his new tool Graft. Cody then turns the tables to ask Greg what emerging technology he is most excited about.
The Future of AI Agents and Voice-First Interfaces 8200 Greg takes center stage to explain the shift toward last-mile browser-operating AI agents and conversational interfaces like Grok companion. Cody strongly agrees and describes his own shift toward voice-first tools like Super Whisper.
Branded AI Voice Agents with Personality and Lore 5510 Cody provides examples of branded voice agents with localized accents for pizzerias and clinics, while Greg riffs on the need for agents with distinct personality and humor. Both conclude on the agency opportunity in voice setup.

Statements from this episode (19)

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schneider: Productized AI services can easily reach $40K-$80K monthly within six months
“Dude, you can easily make, like, 40 to 80 grand a month and, like, get to that, like, within six months. I, zero doubt that that's possible with this stuff, and also these businesses, like, it's just a better business than AI automation agencies.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 1:40
Insight
Schneider: AI automation agencies are flawed businesses due to one-time project revenue
“The business composition or the biology of the business for an automation agency is just really hard. Like you have to be really good at getting like top of funnel leads. You have to be really good at sales. Cause it's like typically kind of higher ticket. So …”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 2:05
Assertion Supported
Schneider: Med spas average $1.4M to $2M in revenue per location
“Like they averaged Per location, 1.4 million to like two point or two million per location in revenue.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 3:40
Assertion Supported
Schneider: Med spa customer lifetime value is around $6,000
“The customer lifetime value of one of these people, if you can like convert them is like six grand, right?”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 3:47
Opinion
Schneider: AI tools eliminate the need to hire graphic designers and video editors
“That's where the AI automation piece comes in, where it's like, you don't need to hire a graphic designer. You don't need to hire a video editor. Like all of these things can basically be handled by a lot of these AI tooling, this AI tooling.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 7:04
Insight
Isenberg: Automated content tools fail for 95%+ of users without storytelling
“For 95%, 97% of people using tools like RealFarm, they're probably not gonna crush it, but if you know how to tell stories, and you tell interesting stories, yes, of course it's gonna be valuable to get traffic to whatever it is you're doing.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 13:02
Assertion Supported
Schneider: Traditional UGC agencies charge $6,000 for five video ads
“I know there's some agencies that are UGC agencies that are traditional. They're using real humans and they're charging so much money for this like basically the creative development and, you know, six grand for five videos.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 17:00
Insight
Schneider: Social ad ROAS requires rapid creative testing with broad targeting
“And this is really the game anymore, right? Is having more creative variations that you're testing on a faster cadence and then doing broad targeting to Facebook or to Twitter or TikTok ads, et cetera, because like their algorithms are way better at finding wh…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 17:14
Assertion Contradicted
Schneider: Four ad library scraping startups funded in past six months
“I've seen like four startups get funded for doing this in the last, like, I feel like six months, right. That are scraping app libraries.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 17:54
Insight
Schneider: Scraping Reddit via Claude produces superior ad hooks
“What's going to be way more effective is like you go and you scrape a Reddit forum and you find this random quote, you know, about acne cream and like somebody describes it in this funny way or a different way. And like you extract that using Claude and you're…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 18:26
Insight
Schneider: Ad agencies that run media buying achieve higher retention
“And it's probably a more valuable agency if you're running the ads because you're closer to revenue, right? Like if you show that, hey, our ads that we make are getting five X ROAS versus the stuff that this, you know, somebody else is making, which is only ge…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 20:59
Opinion
Schneider: Any coaching business is suddenly disruptible by AI
“I think that anything that it was a coach is suddenly like disruptible by AI first off.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 21:44
Insight
Schneider: Pinterest is much easier than Google to compete with food content
“Really hard to compete in this category on Google Pinterest, you can actually compete really effectively in it.”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 22:40
Insight
Schneider: Short-form video will never sell high-ticket services
“For high ticket stuff, like short form video is never going to sell a high ticket thing. I don't know why people even try. Like, that is the wrong thing to be doing. Like, if you're trying to sell something that's three to five, you know, five, 10 grand plus a…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 28:29
Disclosure
Schneider: Rupa Health webinars averaged 6,000 registrations and 1,000 attendees
“Like, we ran this when I was at Rupa Health. We grew this email newsletter on the back of the podcast, and then we started promoting the webinars through it. I mean, we would get 6000 people to basically register for these, like, classes that we were hosting o…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 28:54
Insight
Schneider: AI tooling enables unlimited data analytics agencies for SMBs
“I think that there's an opportunity to go and basically Create an agency like on top of this AI tooling, because it's easier than ever to like basically build out these dashboards. All you have to do is convert that, that raw data into information and into ins…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 30:09
Opinion
Isenberg: Much of the AI agent space has been vaporware
“Like, I feel like there's been a lot of vaporware in the AI agent space, and it's been close. Like, a lot of the products have been really close, so I'm excited about Products that can actually get you the last mile.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 33:21
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Isenberg: Websites, apps, and digital avatars will talk back to users
“Like, websites are gonna talk back to you. Apps are gonna talk back to you. You're gonna have digital avatars that are gonna talk back to you. And this is, like, for better and for worse.”
Greg Isenberg Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 36:11
Opinion
Schneider: Huge business opportunity in building branded AI voice agents with lore
“Or like, and it has this like story that it could basically tell you, or like, it's like a, you know, this lore or origin story, like then take that idea, apply that to brands, apply that to companies. I think there's a huge opportunity in that alone. If you'r…”
Cody Schneider Jul 23, 2025 ▶ 39:14
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