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Jun 21, 2022 · 21m · startup-acquisition-stories

Startup Acquisition Stories with Ramzey Nassar- Co-Founder & CEO at DOE Media

Ramsey Nassar · 12m spoken Andrew Gazdecki · 5m spoken
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In this episode of SaaS Acquisition Stories, host Andrew Gazdecki interviews entrepreneur Ramsey Nassar about founding, bootstrapping, and successfully acquiring an operator for his houseplant startup, Soil and Clay, via MicroAcquire. Nassar shares tactical lessons on data room preparation, buyer diligence, deal structuring, and balancing venture building alongside a fast-growing marketing agency.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Andrew holds 27.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Andrew as informed peer 4.8 Guest teaching 1.4 Guest disagreement 0.2 Andrew pushing back 0.2
05100:0010:0020:000:24–2:42 · Andrew as informed peer 3/10 Founding and Scaling Houseplant Startup Soil and Clay Gazdecki opens with standard friendly interview questions asking Nassar to explain his startup, Soil and Clay. Nassar details the rapid scale and logistics of shipping houseplants in winter, with Gazdecki offering supportive affirmation.2:43–5:47 · Andrew as informed peer 5/10 The Decision to Sell and Negotiating Ongoing Involvement Nassar explains why he sold due to bandwidth constraints across other ventures and how he structured ongoing marketing involvement. Gazdecki demonstrates M&A knowledge by framing this strategy as getting a 'second bite of the apple.'5:47–11:00 · Andrew as informed peer 6/10 Finding the Right Buyer and Managing Inquiries Nassar describes building a data room and sifting through tire kickers on the platform. Gazdecki steps in with expert marketplace guidance on making prospective buyers perform and qualify themselves before granting full diligence access.11:01–16:31 · Andrew as informed peer 7/10 Essential Advice for Preparing Startup Acquisitions Both host and guest exchange best practices for acquisition preparation. Gazdecki displays strong domain authority by elaborating on data room video walkthroughs and balancing upfront cash versus seller financing terms.16:31–21:02 · Andrew as informed peer 3/10 Current Agency Operations and Future Venture Plans Nassar outlines his agency scale and venture fund portfolio while praising Gazdecki's platform. Gazdecki wraps up the interview with encouraging closing remarks.0:24–2:42 · Guest teaching 1/10 Founding and Scaling Houseplant Startup Soil and Clay Gazdecki opens with standard friendly interview questions asking Nassar to explain his startup, Soil and Clay. Nassar details the rapid scale and logistics of shipping houseplants in winter, with Gazdecki offering supportive affirmation.2:43–5:47 · Guest teaching 2/10 The Decision to Sell and Negotiating Ongoing Involvement Nassar explains why he sold due to bandwidth constraints across other ventures and how he structured ongoing marketing involvement. Gazdecki demonstrates M&A knowledge by framing this strategy as getting a 'second bite of the apple.'5:47–11:00 · Guest teaching 2/10 Finding the Right Buyer and Managing Inquiries Nassar describes building a data room and sifting through tire kickers on the platform. Gazdecki steps in with expert marketplace guidance on making prospective buyers perform and qualify themselves before granting full diligence access.11:01–16:31 · Guest teaching 1/10 Essential Advice for Preparing Startup Acquisitions Both host and guest exchange best practices for acquisition preparation. Gazdecki displays strong domain authority by elaborating on data room video walkthroughs and balancing upfront cash versus seller financing terms.16:31–21:02 · Guest teaching 1/10 Current Agency Operations and Future Venture Plans Nassar outlines his agency scale and venture fund portfolio while praising Gazdecki's platform. Gazdecki wraps up the interview with encouraging closing remarks.0:24–2:42 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Founding and Scaling Houseplant Startup Soil and Clay Gazdecki opens with standard friendly interview questions asking Nassar to explain his startup, Soil and Clay. Nassar details the rapid scale and logistics of shipping houseplants in winter, with Gazdecki offering supportive affirmation.2:43–5:47 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Decision to Sell and Negotiating Ongoing Involvement Nassar explains why he sold due to bandwidth constraints across other ventures and how he structured ongoing marketing involvement. Gazdecki demonstrates M&A knowledge by framing this strategy as getting a 'second bite of the apple.'5:47–11:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Finding the Right Buyer and Managing Inquiries Nassar describes building a data room and sifting through tire kickers on the platform. Gazdecki steps in with expert marketplace guidance on making prospective buyers perform and qualify themselves before granting full diligence access.11:01–16:31 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Essential Advice for Preparing Startup Acquisitions Both host and guest exchange best practices for acquisition preparation. Gazdecki displays strong domain authority by elaborating on data room video walkthroughs and balancing upfront cash versus seller financing terms.16:31–21:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Current Agency Operations and Future Venture Plans Nassar outlines his agency scale and venture fund portfolio while praising Gazdecki's platform. Gazdecki wraps up the interview with encouraging closing remarks.0:24–2:42 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Founding and Scaling Houseplant Startup Soil and Clay Gazdecki opens with standard friendly interview questions asking Nassar to explain his startup, Soil and Clay. Nassar details the rapid scale and logistics of shipping houseplants in winter, with Gazdecki offering supportive affirmation.2:43–5:47 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 The Decision to Sell and Negotiating Ongoing Involvement Nassar explains why he sold due to bandwidth constraints across other ventures and how he structured ongoing marketing involvement. Gazdecki demonstrates M&A knowledge by framing this strategy as getting a 'second bite of the apple.'5:47–11:00 · Andrew pushing back 1/10 Finding the Right Buyer and Managing Inquiries Nassar describes building a data room and sifting through tire kickers on the platform. Gazdecki steps in with expert marketplace guidance on making prospective buyers perform and qualify themselves before granting full diligence access.11:01–16:31 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Essential Advice for Preparing Startup Acquisitions Both host and guest exchange best practices for acquisition preparation. Gazdecki displays strong domain authority by elaborating on data room video walkthroughs and balancing upfront cash versus seller financing terms.16:31–21:02 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Current Agency Operations and Future Venture Plans Nassar outlines his agency scale and venture fund portfolio while praising Gazdecki's platform. Gazdecki wraps up the interview with encouraging closing remarks.

speaking balance: gold is Andrew, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Andrew 39.3% · guest 60.7%0:00 · Andrew 39.3% · guest 60.7%3:00 · Andrew 22.3% · guest 77.7%3:00 · Andrew 22.3% · guest 77.7%6:00 · Andrew 0.2% · guest 99.8%6:00 · Andrew 0.2% · guest 99.8%9:00 · Andrew 42.8% · guest 57.2%9:00 · Andrew 42.8% · guest 57.2%12:00 · Andrew 26.9% · guest 73.1%12:00 · Andrew 26.9% · guest 73.1%15:00 · Andrew 49.2% · guest 50.8%15:00 · Andrew 49.2% · guest 50.8%18:00 · Andrew 16.8% · guest 83.2%18:00 · Andrew 16.8% · guest 83.2%21:00 · Andrew 3.8% · guest 96.2%21:00 · Andrew 3.8% · guest 96.2%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 7:45 Addressing platform tire kickers

Nassar respectfully points out that while the platform generated interest, there were numerous tire kickers and uncommitted buyers to filter through.

 Hardest push from Andrew ▶ 9:25 Reframing buyer qualification

Gazdecki advises treating tire kickers seriously while actively forcing them to qualify their funding and background before releasing information.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:30 Hybrid fundraising-acquisition deck

Nassar explains how structuring a hybrid growth and acquisition deck gave prospective buyers a 1-2 year operational roadmap upfront.

 Andrew holds their own ▶ 15:57 Valuation terms vs. cash consideration

Gazdecki demonstrates his deep M&A expertise by articulating why optimizing deal terms and seller financing can be superior to maximizing headline valuation.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicAndrew as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementAndrew pushing backWhy
Founding and Scaling Houseplant Startup Soil and Clay 3100 Gazdecki opens with standard friendly interview questions asking Nassar to explain his startup, Soil and Clay. Nassar details the rapid scale and logistics of shipping houseplants in winter, with Gazdecki offering supportive affirmation.
The Decision to Sell and Negotiating Ongoing Involvement 5200 Nassar explains why he sold due to bandwidth constraints across other ventures and how he structured ongoing marketing involvement. Gazdecki demonstrates M&A knowledge by framing this strategy as getting a 'second bite of the apple.'
Finding the Right Buyer and Managing Inquiries 6211 Nassar describes building a data room and sifting through tire kickers on the platform. Gazdecki steps in with expert marketplace guidance on making prospective buyers perform and qualify themselves before granting full diligence access.
Essential Advice for Preparing Startup Acquisitions 7100 Both host and guest exchange best practices for acquisition preparation. Gazdecki displays strong domain authority by elaborating on data room video walkthroughs and balancing upfront cash versus seller financing terms.
Current Agency Operations and Future Venture Plans 3100 Nassar outlines his agency scale and venture fund portfolio while praising Gazdecki's platform. Gazdecki wraps up the interview with encouraging closing remarks.

Statements from this episode (6)

Disclosure
Nassar: Retained equity and manages marketing for Soil and Clay post-sale
“So we're actually still involved in the company. You know, we're vested into the company. And we still run the marketing behind the company.”
Ramsey Nassar Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 4:48
Disclosure
Nassar: Soil and Clay received two serious MicroAcquire inquiries, three outside
“So I would say for micro acquire, I had like two serious inquiries, and then outside of micro acquire, I had like three serious inquiries,”
Ramsey Nassar Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 8:19
Insight
Gazdecki: Qualify prospective startup buyers by asking about experience and funding
“And what you want to do in those situations is I always recommend, you know, make the buyer perform. What I mean is, You know, you have someone inquire about the business. Instead of just granting them access, ask them a question like, hey, do you have experie…”
Andrew Gazdecki Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 9:43
Disclosure
Nassar: 50% of interested startup buyers refused to sign an NDA
“And then, you know, I'd say off of that, like, 50% of the people didn't even sign it.”
Ramsey Nassar Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 12:12
Insight
Gazdecki: Pre-built data rooms signal serious sellers and drive successful acquisitions
“This is a definite pattern when we see across successful acquisitions is just preparation, like actually putting some thought and some time into preparing, you know, proper financials, you know, how does marketing work, like all the questions that a buyer is g…”
Andrew Gazdecki Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 13:47
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nassar: Ultimate acquirer came via MicroAcquire despite 250 outbound cold DMs
“Although I sent, like, 250 DMs, ultimately, the buyer came from MicroAcquire”
Ramsey Nassar Jun 21, 2022 ▶ 17:19
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