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Field: Jailbreaking AI models requires conversational questioning rather than fancy JSON

Dylan Field · Dylan Field on the “Permanent Underclass of Zero Taste” · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea · Jul 2, 2026 · at 31:04

Figma CEO Dylan Field demystifies how AI safety guardrails get bypassed during natural interactions rather than complex exploits.

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“It's not like you have to do some fancy JSON thing. Like, that's what people like to popularize it online with, but I mean, you can just talk to them and ask them questions.”

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