Jun 14, 2024 · 1h 13m · sourcery

Hunter Walk, Homebrew & Screendoor · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea

Hunter Walk · 56m spoken Molly O'Shea · 9m spoken
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Hunter Walk, partner at Homebrew and co-founder of Screen Door, joins host Molly O'Shea on Sourcery to discuss Homebrew's strategic pivot to an evergreen, self-funded investment model and Screen Door's mission to anchor and mentor emerging venture managers.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Molly holds 14.2% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Molly as informed peer 5.6 Guest teaching 5.3 Guest disagreement 2.4 Molly pushing back 1.1
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:00:003:43–13:49 · Molly as informed peer 5/10 The Evolution of Homebrew & The Self-Funded Model Molly opens with an informed breakdown of VC incentive shifts and fund size bloat. Hunter expands with the origin story and philosophy behind Homebrew's pivot to a self-funded evergreen model.13:49–25:15 · Molly as informed peer 5/10 Venture Fund Mechanics, LP Dynamics, and Industry Incentives Molly prompts Hunter to explain the structural differences between traditional 2-and-20 funds and his self-funded model. Hunter delivers a detailed explanation of capital calls on personal savings, carry structures, and why venture Darwinism moves slowly.25:15–30:45 · Molly as informed peer 5/10 Custom Playbooks and Value Creation in Venture Capital Hunter reframes Molly's points on venture firm behavior, breaking down the industry's talent curve into a realistic single-hump distribution rather than the perceived double-hump of kingmakers versus vultures.30:45–37:13 · Molly as informed peer 5/10 Portfolio Wins, Capital Recycling, and Midas List Myths Hunter discusses portfolio wins like Chime and Plaid, explaining how capital recycling works in early funds. He also deconstructs the Midas List, revealing that inclusion requires submitting non-public portfolio data and claiming internal deal attribution.37:13–51:29 · Molly as informed peer 6/10 Screen Door: Structure, Origins, and Mission Hunter outlines the structure and thesis behind Screen Door, explaining how it acts as an anchor LP for diverse emerging managers. Molly presses with a sharp clarifying question about whether Screen Door uses these managers as proprietary deal scouts.51:29–57:00 · Molly as informed peer 6/10 Evaluating Emerging Managers & The Core Screening Process Molly asks how Screen Door filters through hundreds of applications to find enduring managers. Hunter explains their underwriting criteria, emphasizing the necessity of a consistent 'why' that aligns between LPs and founders.57:00–1:11:59 · Molly as informed peer 7/10 Fundraising Frameworks & Advice for New Venture Managers Molly leverages her previous corporate fund-of-funds background at New York Life Ventures to validate first-time manager outperformance. Hunter delivers a comprehensive tactical roadmap covering Fund 1 MVP sizing, LP concentration risk, and narrative honesty.3:43–13:49 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Evolution of Homebrew & The Self-Funded Model Molly opens with an informed breakdown of VC incentive shifts and fund size bloat. Hunter expands with the origin story and philosophy behind Homebrew's pivot to a self-funded evergreen model.13:49–25:15 · Guest teaching 6/10 Venture Fund Mechanics, LP Dynamics, and Industry Incentives Molly prompts Hunter to explain the structural differences between traditional 2-and-20 funds and his self-funded model. Hunter delivers a detailed explanation of capital calls on personal savings, carry structures, and why venture Darwinism moves slowly.25:15–30:45 · Guest teaching 5/10 Custom Playbooks and Value Creation in Venture Capital Hunter reframes Molly's points on venture firm behavior, breaking down the industry's talent curve into a realistic single-hump distribution rather than the perceived double-hump of kingmakers versus vultures.30:45–37:13 · Guest teaching 6/10 Portfolio Wins, Capital Recycling, and Midas List Myths Hunter discusses portfolio wins like Chime and Plaid, explaining how capital recycling works in early funds. He also deconstructs the Midas List, revealing that inclusion requires submitting non-public portfolio data and claiming internal deal attribution.37:13–51:29 · Guest teaching 5/10 Screen Door: Structure, Origins, and Mission Hunter outlines the structure and thesis behind Screen Door, explaining how it acts as an anchor LP for diverse emerging managers. Molly presses with a sharp clarifying question about whether Screen Door uses these managers as proprietary deal scouts.51:29–57:00 · Guest teaching 5/10 Evaluating Emerging Managers & The Core Screening Process Molly asks how Screen Door filters through hundreds of applications to find enduring managers. Hunter explains their underwriting criteria, emphasizing the necessity of a consistent 'why' that aligns between LPs and founders.57:00–1:11:59 · Guest teaching 6/10 Fundraising Frameworks & Advice for New Venture Managers Molly leverages her previous corporate fund-of-funds background at New York Life Ventures to validate first-time manager outperformance. Hunter delivers a comprehensive tactical roadmap covering Fund 1 MVP sizing, LP concentration risk, and narrative honesty.3:43–13:49 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The Evolution of Homebrew & The Self-Funded Model Molly opens with an informed breakdown of VC incentive shifts and fund size bloat. Hunter expands with the origin story and philosophy behind Homebrew's pivot to a self-funded evergreen model.13:49–25:15 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Venture Fund Mechanics, LP Dynamics, and Industry Incentives Molly prompts Hunter to explain the structural differences between traditional 2-and-20 funds and his self-funded model. Hunter delivers a detailed explanation of capital calls on personal savings, carry structures, and why venture Darwinism moves slowly.25:15–30:45 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Custom Playbooks and Value Creation in Venture Capital Hunter reframes Molly's points on venture firm behavior, breaking down the industry's talent curve into a realistic single-hump distribution rather than the perceived double-hump of kingmakers versus vultures.30:45–37:13 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Portfolio Wins, Capital Recycling, and Midas List Myths Hunter discusses portfolio wins like Chime and Plaid, explaining how capital recycling works in early funds. He also deconstructs the Midas List, revealing that inclusion requires submitting non-public portfolio data and claiming internal deal attribution.37:13–51:29 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Screen Door: Structure, Origins, and Mission Hunter outlines the structure and thesis behind Screen Door, explaining how it acts as an anchor LP for diverse emerging managers. Molly presses with a sharp clarifying question about whether Screen Door uses these managers as proprietary deal scouts.51:29–57:00 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Evaluating Emerging Managers & The Core Screening Process Molly asks how Screen Door filters through hundreds of applications to find enduring managers. Hunter explains their underwriting criteria, emphasizing the necessity of a consistent 'why' that aligns between LPs and founders.57:00–1:11:59 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Fundraising Frameworks & Advice for New Venture Managers Molly leverages her previous corporate fund-of-funds background at New York Life Ventures to validate first-time manager outperformance. Hunter delivers a comprehensive tactical roadmap covering Fund 1 MVP sizing, LP concentration risk, and narrative honesty.3:43–13:49 · Molly pushing back 1/10 The Evolution of Homebrew & The Self-Funded Model Molly opens with an informed breakdown of VC incentive shifts and fund size bloat. Hunter expands with the origin story and philosophy behind Homebrew's pivot to a self-funded evergreen model.13:49–25:15 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Venture Fund Mechanics, LP Dynamics, and Industry Incentives Molly prompts Hunter to explain the structural differences between traditional 2-and-20 funds and his self-funded model. Hunter delivers a detailed explanation of capital calls on personal savings, carry structures, and why venture Darwinism moves slowly.25:15–30:45 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Custom Playbooks and Value Creation in Venture Capital Hunter reframes Molly's points on venture firm behavior, breaking down the industry's talent curve into a realistic single-hump distribution rather than the perceived double-hump of kingmakers versus vultures.30:45–37:13 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Portfolio Wins, Capital Recycling, and Midas List Myths Hunter discusses portfolio wins like Chime and Plaid, explaining how capital recycling works in early funds. He also deconstructs the Midas List, revealing that inclusion requires submitting non-public portfolio data and claiming internal deal attribution.37:13–51:29 · Molly pushing back 2/10 Screen Door: Structure, Origins, and Mission Hunter outlines the structure and thesis behind Screen Door, explaining how it acts as an anchor LP for diverse emerging managers. Molly presses with a sharp clarifying question about whether Screen Door uses these managers as proprietary deal scouts.51:29–57:00 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Evaluating Emerging Managers & The Core Screening Process Molly asks how Screen Door filters through hundreds of applications to find enduring managers. Hunter explains their underwriting criteria, emphasizing the necessity of a consistent 'why' that aligns between LPs and founders.57:00–1:11:59 · Molly pushing back 1/10 Fundraising Frameworks & Advice for New Venture Managers Molly leverages her previous corporate fund-of-funds background at New York Life Ventures to validate first-time manager outperformance. Hunter delivers a comprehensive tactical roadmap covering Fund 1 MVP sizing, LP concentration risk, and narrative honesty.

speaking balance: gold is Molly, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Molly 49.3% · guest 50.7%0:00 · Molly 49.3% · guest 50.7%3:00 · Molly 23.8% · guest 76.2%3:00 · Molly 23.8% · guest 76.2%6:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Molly 24.8% · guest 75.2%9:00 · Molly 24.8% · guest 75.2%12:00 · Molly 36.7% · guest 63.3%12:00 · Molly 36.7% · guest 63.3%15:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%18:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%18:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%21:00 · Molly 9.5% · guest 90.5%21:00 · Molly 9.5% · guest 90.5%24:00 · Molly 17.4% · guest 82.6%24:00 · Molly 17.4% · guest 82.6%27:00 · Molly 1.7% · guest 98.3%27:00 · Molly 1.7% · guest 98.3%30:00 · Molly 14.6% · guest 85.4%30:00 · Molly 14.6% · guest 85.4%33:00 · Molly 4.1% · guest 95.9%33:00 · Molly 4.1% · guest 95.9%36:00 · Molly 31.5% · guest 68.5%36:00 · Molly 31.5% · guest 68.5%39:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%39:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%42:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%42:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%45:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%45:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%48:00 · Molly 5.2% · guest 94.8%48:00 · Molly 5.2% · guest 94.8%51:00 · Molly 24.5% · guest 75.5%51:00 · Molly 24.5% · guest 75.5%54:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%54:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%57:00 · Molly 61% · guest 39%57:00 · Molly 61% · guest 39%1:00:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:00:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:03:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:03:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:06:00 · Molly 22.5% · guest 77.5%1:06:00 · Molly 22.5% · guest 77.5%1:09:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:09:00 · Molly 0% · guest 100%1:12:00 · Molly 71.7% · guest 28.3%1:12:00 · Molly 71.7% · guest 28.3%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 36:03 Hunter's critique of the Midas List

Hunter pulls back the curtain on industry rankings, explaining that Midas List inclusion requires handing over confidential data and forcing internal attribution battles between partners.

Hardest push from Molly ▶ 49:12 Molly probes on scout fund dynamics

Molly interrupts to press whether Screen Door treats emerging managers as a feeder scout program or maintains strict operational separation.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 35:00 Hunter explains capital recycling mechanics

Hunter provides a crystal-clear tutorial on how disciplined recycling allows a 35 million dollar fund to deploy 42 million dollars into winning positions.

Molly holds their own ▶ 57:00 Molly cites institutional FoF experience

Molly demonstrates her own domain expertise by citing her tenure at New York Life Ventures analyzing the structural outperformance of Fund I and Fund II vintages.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicMolly as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementMolly pushing backWhy
The Evolution of Homebrew & The Self-Funded Model 5421 Molly opens with an informed breakdown of VC incentive shifts and fund size bloat. Hunter expands with the origin story and philosophy behind Homebrew's pivot to a self-funded evergreen model.
Venture Fund Mechanics, LP Dynamics, and Industry Incentives 5631 Molly prompts Hunter to explain the structural differences between traditional 2-and-20 funds and his self-funded model. Hunter delivers a detailed explanation of capital calls on personal savings, carry structures, and why venture Darwinism moves slowly.
Custom Playbooks and Value Creation in Venture Capital 5531 Hunter reframes Molly's points on venture firm behavior, breaking down the industry's talent curve into a realistic single-hump distribution rather than the perceived double-hump of kingmakers versus vultures.
Portfolio Wins, Capital Recycling, and Midas List Myths 5631 Hunter discusses portfolio wins like Chime and Plaid, explaining how capital recycling works in early funds. He also deconstructs the Midas List, revealing that inclusion requires submitting non-public portfolio data and claiming internal deal attribution.
Screen Door: Structure, Origins, and Mission 6522 Hunter outlines the structure and thesis behind Screen Door, explaining how it acts as an anchor LP for diverse emerging managers. Molly presses with a sharp clarifying question about whether Screen Door uses these managers as proprietary deal scouts.
Evaluating Emerging Managers & The Core Screening Process 6521 Molly asks how Screen Door filters through hundreds of applications to find enduring managers. Hunter explains their underwriting criteria, emphasizing the necessity of a consistent 'why' that aligns between LPs and founders.
Fundraising Frameworks & Advice for New Venture Managers 7621 Molly leverages her previous corporate fund-of-funds background at New York Life Ventures to validate first-time manager outperformance. Hunter delivers a comprehensive tactical roadmap covering Fund 1 MVP sizing, LP concentration risk, and narrative honesty.

Statements from this episode (20)

Opinion
Walk: Raising larger venture funds without structural planning hurts LPs and founders
“Like all of those are implications that I think actually when venture firms don't consider and they just raise more money and then figure it out as they go, like are bad for LPs and bad for founders and thus bad for those firms.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 6:56
Disclosure
Walk: Homebrew targets 10-12 annual seed investments of $100k-$500k
“We're going to keep our firm together. We're going to make the same number of investments each year, 10 to 12. But instead of having an ownership target that forces a certain check size, so, and so forth, we're going to write most checks between a hundred K an…”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 8:16
Assertion Supported
Walk: Homebrew has made roughly 28 investments under its evergreen model
“You know, we've made 28 investments or so. I think we're just closing on a 29th a hundred percent, you know, a hundred percent win rate, you know, for whatever that's worth type of thing.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 11:43
Disclosure
Walk: Homebrew gives carried interest to every employee at the firm
“We've always given anybody who works for homebrew carry in the fund. So our head of ops, you know, executive assistant, our head of talent in addition to getting salaries and bonuses, they are, they get unbounded upside. In our success.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 17:49
Disclosure
Walk: Homebrew IV invests assuming it will only write one check
“When we write a check into a company as homebrew four we hope to have the opportunity to continue to support or, you know, put more capital in if it makes sense, but we make it, we write that check, assuming It'll be the only check we write and that the juice …”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 22:08
Insight
Walk: Underperforming VC funds take a decade or more to exit
“It takes, you know, a decade or more, you know, barring a real firm, you know, a partnership breakup or you know, something illegal, you know, right? Like it takes a decade or more for a underperforming fund To actually exit the market.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 24:20
Insight
Hunter Walk: Only 5% of VCs are exceptional and 5% are horrible
“And then you get inside the industry and you realize like, actually it's a single hump. There's five percent of VCs who are really, really good at what they do. And even part of that is self-awareness, right? Oh, I'm best in these situations and this stage of …”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 29:05
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hunter Walk: Homebrew's 2013 fund ranks in the top one percent
“Like, even if that fund didn't return another dollar, we'd be like a top one percent fund, and fortunately, it's gonna return more dollars.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 30:13
Insight
Hunter Walk: An investor's thesis is their portfolio, not their blog posts
“Your thesis is your portfolio page. It's not your tweets. It's not your blog post. It's not your market maps. The saddest thing in the world is to be an investor who, like, gets all of those right, but then doesn't invest in the best companies. ... Then you're…”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 32:01
Disclosure
Hunter Walk: Homebrew's first two funds achieved over 120% capital recycling
“Our first two funds, I think are all maybe are a hundred north of a 120% recycling. So we really double triple down recycling as people, you know, I was using the example before of you draw down fees, right. But you have to invest the whole amount recycling is…”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 34:47
Assertion Supported
Hunter Walk: Midas List inclusion forces confidential disclosures and deal attribution
“Anyone who's on the Midas list no matter what their firm says, they've turned over, you know, information to a third party about their portfolio. And they've decided internally that somebody gets to claim credit for that deal. Whether it's the person who deser…”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 36:36
Disclosure
Walk: Screen Door writes 10% anchor checks for emerging VC funds
“Screen Door tries to help anchor a fund by, if it's a twenty million dollar fund, writing a two million dollar check. If it's a hundred million dollar fund, writing a ten million dollar check. So we're a big, big sum of capital.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 43:33
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Walk: Differentiated new venture managers will eat mediocre firms' lunch
“I think it's a great time to be a differentiated quote unquote new manager, right? They are going to eat the lunch of mediocre firms, you know, slow moving firms.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 46:02
Insight
Walk: The venture capital industry moves quickly only out of fear or greed
“Venture, venture moves quickly out of fear or greed. Everything else is slow, right?”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 46:20
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Walk: Screen Door received over 700 emerging manager applications last year
“Last year we got over 700 applications.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 52:15
Insight
Walk: Giving different pitches to founders and LPs is duplicitous
“To the extent that those answers, the answers you would tell a founder are different than what you tell an LP. I think at best it's confusing and at worst it's duplicitous, right? Like you're sort of somebody's the rube, right?”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 55:10
Insight
Walk: Fund I is raised on potential, II momentum, III results
“Fund one gets raised on potential fund two gets raised on momentum and fund three gets raised on results.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 58:56
Insight
Walk: Emerging VC managers should change only one thing for Fund 2
“Fund two shouldn't necessarily, shouldn't change too much. Like if you're adding, like, sometimes I see people try to add a partner Move up a weight class in terms of like, as opposed to one to three percent, now I'm gonna lead rounds, or, you know, they try t…”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 1:01:47
Disclosure
Walk: Homebrew had extreme LP concentration in its first two funds
“We went from four LPs in our first one that made up, like, 90% to eight in the second one that made up about, like, 97%”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 1:04:36
Insight
Hunter Walk: Do not use AUM growth to measure fund success
“Don't use AUM or increasing AUM as a measuring size for your success, for your momentum, for anything.”
Hunter Walk Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 1:10:36
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