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Opinion

Lemkin: Sales AI Lags Coding AI Due to Founder Quality

“The only reason sales tools aren't as good as Windsurf is because Varun isn't building a lot of them. Okay. I just think, and there's no criticism. I love everyone that's here. There aren't enough S tier founders.”

Jason Lemkin May 28, 2025 ▶ 45:20 AI, Sales + GTM in 2026: This Changes Everything with Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton

Disclosure

Norton Uses Windsurf and Lever API to Code Internal Analytics

“With Windsurf, I can legitimately, so I've got to get my GitHub repos and I've got it all set up so that I can actually do what I want to do. And so I'm pulling stuff out of the lever API to run analysis on how we're hiring.”

Kyle Norton May 28, 2025 ▶ 7:25 AI, Sales + GTM in 2026: This Changes Everything with Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton

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