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Kazuki Ohta, co-founder and CEO of Treasure Data, details managing customer churn and legacy revenue after transitioning into a MarTech CDP company.
“And in fact, we have 20% of our ARR still coming from big data product, but we're not, of course, adding new customer for that segment, right?”
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Infrastructure SaaS yields 20-30% margins while end-to-end apps exceed 70%
“So the infrastructure-ish SaaS company, they intend to have around 20 to 30% margin, but if you go to end-to-end application, they tend to have more than 70%”
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Early-stage startups should build apps over platforms for GTM control
“As an early stage company, end-to-end apps is much better way to go to market, especially because you have more consistent and predictable sales and marketing motion, and also you can control the entire sales process.”
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A Treasure Data VP tried to fire CEO Kazuki Ohta over pivot
“One VP were not convinced of this direction. So he came to the board and trying to fire me.”
Kazuki OhtaDec 14, 2021▶ 24:59$100 Million ARR Pivot: From Platform Product to Vertical Apps With Treasure Data CEO Kazuki Ohta
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Becoming a $1B+ platform requires building your own native killer app
“So what I found out was if you become a truly you know, one billion dollar plus platform company, you really need a killer application by yourselves.”
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Investors buy platform stories, but enterprise customers buy apps
“The investor really likes the platform story to be told, and you can keep talking about the platform for the right audience, but that's not how customers will purchase or fund the project.”
Kazuki OhtaDec 14, 2021▶ 36:35$100 Million ARR Pivot: From Platform Product to Vertical Apps With Treasure Data CEO Kazuki Ohta
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96% of Treasure Data's early ARR came from two founder-led deals
“Ah, but in reality, we closed 3.6 1000001.2 million ARR deal led by founders. So if you look at this, 96% comes from these like two gigantic deals led by founders.”
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