Sep 11, 2018 · 21m · saastr

Fireside Chat with CEO and Founder of Front, Mathilde Collin

Mathilde Collin · 15m spoken Harry Stebbings · 3m spoken
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In this fireside chat, Mathilde Collin, CEO and Co-Founder of Front, shares strategic insights on scaling a SaaS startup past $10M ARR, executing disciplined venture fundraising, and navigating the operational and psychological realities of executive leadership.

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Jason as informed peer 2.6 Guest teaching 3.4 Guest disagreement 1.8 Jason pushing back 1.6
05100:0010:0020:000:10–3:50 · Jason as informed peer 2/10 The Origins of Front and Entering the SaaS Industry Harry Stebbings initiates the fireside chat with friendly, open-ended inquiries into Front's early history and their competitive Series B fundraising with Sequoia. Mathilde Collin explains her founding motivations and clarifies that while fundraising came smoothly, building the operational business remains challenging.3:50–6:51 · Jason as informed peer 3/10 Evolving Expectations from Investors Across Funding Stages Mathilde explains the psychological progression across funding rounds, highlighting her deliberate choice to take angel money at seed to avoid institutional interference. Harry summarizes her executive coaching framework and guides the discussion toward the importance of Silicon Valley.6:52–11:19 · Jason as informed peer 3/10 Actionable Fundraising Advice for Early-Stage Founders Mathilde reframes conventional fundraising milestones, emphasizing founder conviction and pre-existing investor relationships over rigid ARR thresholds. When Harry raises concerns about radical transparency leaking negative news, Mathilde delineates between sharing objective metrics and broadcasting internal emotional distress.11:19–16:08 · Jason as informed peer 3/10 Navigating the Personal Pressures of Being a Founder Harry pushes back on Mathilde's claim that founders must figure out growth alone by asking if board guidance is meant for that purpose. Mathilde firmly counters by detailing why boards and mentors lack operational context for domain-specific decisions, illustrating her point with a story about Y Combinator and Gmail's creator.16:08–19:42 · Jason as informed peer 2/10 Maintaining Talent Standards and Focusing on Growth Levers Mathilde reflects on scaling Front from 1 to 10 million in ARR, acknowledging that she initially spread resources across too many growth channels instead of doubling down on net retention metrics. Harry asks whether she takes time to appreciate her accomplishments, to which she offers an immediate, straightforward denial.0:10–3:50 · Guest teaching 1/10 The Origins of Front and Entering the SaaS Industry Harry Stebbings initiates the fireside chat with friendly, open-ended inquiries into Front's early history and their competitive Series B fundraising with Sequoia. Mathilde Collin explains her founding motivations and clarifies that while fundraising came smoothly, building the operational business remains challenging.3:50–6:51 · Guest teaching 3/10 Evolving Expectations from Investors Across Funding Stages Mathilde explains the psychological progression across funding rounds, highlighting her deliberate choice to take angel money at seed to avoid institutional interference. Harry summarizes her executive coaching framework and guides the discussion toward the importance of Silicon Valley.6:52–11:19 · Guest teaching 4/10 Actionable Fundraising Advice for Early-Stage Founders Mathilde reframes conventional fundraising milestones, emphasizing founder conviction and pre-existing investor relationships over rigid ARR thresholds. When Harry raises concerns about radical transparency leaking negative news, Mathilde delineates between sharing objective metrics and broadcasting internal emotional distress.11:19–16:08 · Guest teaching 5/10 Navigating the Personal Pressures of Being a Founder Harry pushes back on Mathilde's claim that founders must figure out growth alone by asking if board guidance is meant for that purpose. Mathilde firmly counters by detailing why boards and mentors lack operational context for domain-specific decisions, illustrating her point with a story about Y Combinator and Gmail's creator.16:08–19:42 · Guest teaching 4/10 Maintaining Talent Standards and Focusing on Growth Levers Mathilde reflects on scaling Front from 1 to 10 million in ARR, acknowledging that she initially spread resources across too many growth channels instead of doubling down on net retention metrics. Harry asks whether she takes time to appreciate her accomplishments, to which she offers an immediate, straightforward denial.0:10–3:50 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Origins of Front and Entering the SaaS Industry Harry Stebbings initiates the fireside chat with friendly, open-ended inquiries into Front's early history and their competitive Series B fundraising with Sequoia. Mathilde Collin explains her founding motivations and clarifies that while fundraising came smoothly, building the operational business remains challenging.3:50–6:51 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Evolving Expectations from Investors Across Funding Stages Mathilde explains the psychological progression across funding rounds, highlighting her deliberate choice to take angel money at seed to avoid institutional interference. Harry summarizes her executive coaching framework and guides the discussion toward the importance of Silicon Valley.6:52–11:19 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Actionable Fundraising Advice for Early-Stage Founders Mathilde reframes conventional fundraising milestones, emphasizing founder conviction and pre-existing investor relationships over rigid ARR thresholds. When Harry raises concerns about radical transparency leaking negative news, Mathilde delineates between sharing objective metrics and broadcasting internal emotional distress.11:19–16:08 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Navigating the Personal Pressures of Being a Founder Harry pushes back on Mathilde's claim that founders must figure out growth alone by asking if board guidance is meant for that purpose. Mathilde firmly counters by detailing why boards and mentors lack operational context for domain-specific decisions, illustrating her point with a story about Y Combinator and Gmail's creator.16:08–19:42 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Maintaining Talent Standards and Focusing on Growth Levers Mathilde reflects on scaling Front from 1 to 10 million in ARR, acknowledging that she initially spread resources across too many growth channels instead of doubling down on net retention metrics. Harry asks whether she takes time to appreciate her accomplishments, to which she offers an immediate, straightforward denial.0:10–3:50 · Jason pushing back 1/10 The Origins of Front and Entering the SaaS Industry Harry Stebbings initiates the fireside chat with friendly, open-ended inquiries into Front's early history and their competitive Series B fundraising with Sequoia. Mathilde Collin explains her founding motivations and clarifies that while fundraising came smoothly, building the operational business remains challenging.3:50–6:51 · Jason pushing back 1/10 Evolving Expectations from Investors Across Funding Stages Mathilde explains the psychological progression across funding rounds, highlighting her deliberate choice to take angel money at seed to avoid institutional interference. Harry summarizes her executive coaching framework and guides the discussion toward the importance of Silicon Valley.6:52–11:19 · Jason pushing back 2/10 Actionable Fundraising Advice for Early-Stage Founders Mathilde reframes conventional fundraising milestones, emphasizing founder conviction and pre-existing investor relationships over rigid ARR thresholds. When Harry raises concerns about radical transparency leaking negative news, Mathilde delineates between sharing objective metrics and broadcasting internal emotional distress.11:19–16:08 · Jason pushing back 3/10 Navigating the Personal Pressures of Being a Founder Harry pushes back on Mathilde's claim that founders must figure out growth alone by asking if board guidance is meant for that purpose. Mathilde firmly counters by detailing why boards and mentors lack operational context for domain-specific decisions, illustrating her point with a story about Y Combinator and Gmail's creator.16:08–19:42 · Jason pushing back 1/10 Maintaining Talent Standards and Focusing on Growth Levers Mathilde reflects on scaling Front from 1 to 10 million in ARR, acknowledging that she initially spread resources across too many growth channels instead of doubling down on net retention metrics. Harry asks whether she takes time to appreciate her accomplishments, to which she offers an immediate, straightforward denial.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 13:27 Rejecting board strategic direction

Mathilde immediately and directly dismisses Harry's suggestion that board members who have seen scaling multiple times can help a founder figure out specific growth steps.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 13:31 Harry challenges dismissal of board value

Harry interrupts to challenge Mathilde's skepticism of board assistance, pressing her on whether board members are specifically meant to provide experienced guidance.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 14:03 Anecdote on Gmail founder's generic advice

Mathilde educates the host on the limits of external investor advice by recounting how even the creator of Gmail could only offer high-level platitudes like 'follow your growth' during YC office hours.

Jason holds their own ▶ 9:52 Host challenges transparency risks with investors

Harry brings up the tactical danger of radical transparency, questioning how founders handle the risk of missed revenue targets or executive departures filtering back into the ecosystem.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
The Origins of Front and Entering the SaaS Industry 2111 Harry Stebbings initiates the fireside chat with friendly, open-ended inquiries into Front's early history and their competitive Series B fundraising with Sequoia. Mathilde Collin explains her founding motivations and clarifies that while fundraising came smoothly, building the operational business remains challenging.
Evolving Expectations from Investors Across Funding Stages 3311 Mathilde explains the psychological progression across funding rounds, highlighting her deliberate choice to take angel money at seed to avoid institutional interference. Harry summarizes her executive coaching framework and guides the discussion toward the importance of Silicon Valley.
Actionable Fundraising Advice for Early-Stage Founders 3422 Mathilde reframes conventional fundraising milestones, emphasizing founder conviction and pre-existing investor relationships over rigid ARR thresholds. When Harry raises concerns about radical transparency leaking negative news, Mathilde delineates between sharing objective metrics and broadcasting internal emotional distress.
Navigating the Personal Pressures of Being a Founder 3533 Harry pushes back on Mathilde's claim that founders must figure out growth alone by asking if board guidance is meant for that purpose. Mathilde firmly counters by detailing why boards and mentors lack operational context for domain-specific decisions, illustrating her point with a story about Y Combinator and Gmail's creator.
Maintaining Talent Standards and Focusing on Growth Levers 2421 Mathilde reflects on scaling Front from 1 to 10 million in ARR, acknowledging that she initially spread resources across too many growth channels instead of doubling down on net retention metrics. Harry asks whether she takes time to appreciate her accomplishments, to which she offers an immediate, straightforward denial.

Statements from this episode (15)

Disclosure
Collin: Front was conceived because she spent 6–7 hours daily in email
“I wanted to work on email because I was spending probably six or seven hours per day in my inbox.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 1:26
Disclosure
Mathilde Collin packed 11 VC partner meetings into a single week
“So I scheduled all the partners meetings the week after. So 11 partner meetings in one week, which was pretty tiring.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 2:02
Assertion Supported
Sequoia built a custom Lego set to pitch Mathilde Collin
“What Sequoia did is they built a Lego, a custom Lego with the front logo and the Sequoia logo and then an FL tower cause I'm French and the Golden Gate Bridge, and they brought it to the office”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 2:46
Disclosure
Mathilde Collin admits raising Front's early funding rounds was easy
“For us, at least, we've been fortunate enough, and every round has been super easy, so seed series A and series B, we raised pretty quickly. So if there is one thing that's not hard, and that's probably the only thing about building front, for us, it's been ra…”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 3:35
Disclosure
Collin: Front avoided VC funds during its seed round
“So for example, seed round, I didn't know what I was doing. And so I didn't want any VC. So it was more angel investors would invest because I didn't want to have any pressure from anyone.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 4:04
Insight
Collin: Startups are screwed if seed VCs do not follow on
“And so you know that if you raise a seed round and then you raise a series A and the firm doesn't follow, then you're screwed.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 4:17
Insight
Collin: CEO role changes every six months, requiring different coaches
“So my job changes probably at least every six months. And every time I need to learn a new job, and every time I don't know if I'll be great at the next job I feel like, one, having, ah, a coach is useful, and it can be a different coach every six months.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 5:19
Insight
Founders should raise on business confidence, not arbitrary ARR milestones
“One thing I've realized is people will give you a lot of milestones that you need to hit in order to raise. So they will tell you raise a seed run when you hit that, and then a series A when you hit One million in AR, whatever. And Series B when, but at the en…”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 7:54
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Collin: Front shares all runway, revenue, churn, and NPS data with every employee
“So, at Front, everyone knows everything about our runway, our NPS, our revenue, our churn, like, everything.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 10:33
Insight
Startup transparency means sharing metrics, not dumping personal emotional anxiety
“The thing that I think is dangerous is transparency is not about sharing, ah, everything that's on your mind and the way you feel. And that's true internally and externally. So for example, in, inside the company, I can't say I'm freaking out about this compet…”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 10:51
Disclosure
Mathilde Collin: Investors Bet on Her Personally Rather Than Front's Metrics
“I think the thing that keeps me up at night is as the company is growing, like people put so much expectations on front and specifically on me. And so I keep hearing from a lot of different people, like the reason we're betting on front is because you're the C…”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 11:40
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Front scaled from $1 million to $10 million ARR in two years
“Two years.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 12:29
Insight
Startup board members cannot tell founders how to reach operational milestones
“So not helpful with, I feel like they are not helpful to tell you how you'll get to your next milestone. Like they don't have any answers for you.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 14:03
Disclosure
Collin: Sequoia Board Member Ran Front's VP of Sales Search
“So Brian from Sequoia, who joined our board a month ago, like, I said, oh, we need a VP cells, and he was like, I will run the search for you. And then he's, so our new VP cells is training on Monday.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 15:40
Disclosure
Mathilde Collin admits Front ignored net retention metrics until Series B
“I had to wait till our series B, I think, to look at our net retention.”
Mathilde Collin Sep 11, 2018 ▶ 18:31
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