Loiacono: Traditional PBMs Charge Hundreds of Different Prices for Same Drug
AJ Loiacono · He spent $0 on marketing—raised $400M at $3.25B valuation | Judi Health · Aug 24, 2026 · at 9:13
AJ Loiacono, founder and CEO of Judi Health (formerly Capital Rx), contrasts his company's transparent flat-fee model with legacy pharmacy benefit managers.
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“You know, so if a traditional pharmacy benefit manager, someone we compete with, they'll have hundreds of different prices for the same drug, same day, same pharmacy for different customers.”
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