Nick Frosst, co-founder of enterprise AI unicorn Cohere, contrasts Meta's open-weight model releases with traditional community open-source software like Linux.
“Lama, Lama three, like the stuff Meta is doing great models, great engineers, really cool stuff. But it's not open source the way Linux is open source. It's not open source the way, you know, I don't know, like Wikipedia's contributions are open source in that it's not created by a bunch of hobbyists for fun in their spare time. It's actually a very valuable asset that a large enterprise is choosing to give away for free for the purposes of notoriety. For the purposes of, you know, getting people excited about a really cool technology. It's a little different. It's also not similar to Linux in that it's not building upon itself, right? Like the models that were released by like, as soon as a new model is released, the old ones are kind of irrelevant now.”
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