“And for AWS and GCP and Azure, all the money
Is in massive enterprise contracts with companies that have massive DevOps teams.
So guess who they're building for?
They're building for DevOps engineers.”
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Insight
Startups lack true PMF until growth happens naturally via word-of-mouth
“You don't really have product market fit until You're growing naturally, and that usually happens when your users are spreading the word.”
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Opinion
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AssertionNot checkable as stated
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Insight
Superhuman proves high onboarding friction can still yield strong word-of-mouth
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Disclosure
Goel: Render Considers Forcing Users Onto Kubernetes a Product Failure
“And for render, that was never an option.
We said, look, if you have to use Kubernetes for something, that's a failure.”
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