Retention.com founder Adam Robinson discusses how high venture valuations trap startups into needing massive multi-billion-dollar outcomes to satisfy investors.
“When they raised at 500, I was like, oh, Like they just took a billion dollar exit off the table, you know, like, and that would have just been so awesome. And then they go and raise a 1.25. It's like, shit, man. Now the number's like five.”
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