Robinson: Constant Contact IPO'd at $100M ARR when Mailchimp had $2M ARR
Adam Robinson · He grew to $25M in ARR and $14M in annual profits—with no funding & no dilution. | Adam Robinson,... · PMF Show · Apr 10, 2025 · at 20:04
Retention.com founder Adam Robinson discusses historical revenues in the email marketing SaaS sector.
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“Constant contact IPO'd with a hundred million ARR when MailChimp was at two million ARR.”
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