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Kelly: Biosecurity should mirror cybersecurity with persistent monitoring and rapid response

Jason Kelly · No Priors Ep. 34 | With Ginkgo Bioworks Co-Founder and CEO Jason Kelly · Sep 28, 2023 · at 22:00

Jason Kelly, CEO of Ginkgo Bioworks, outlines his conceptual framework for pandemic preparedness and biodefense infrastructure.

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“Cybersecurity, I think is a bit the mental model for like what the future of infectious disease response looks like. Persistent monitoring, rapid response, kill it.”

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