Edwin Chen

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Jul 24, 2025
Disclosure
Chen: Surge AI Works With All Frontier Labs on Model Evaluation
“So internally we do a lot of work actually today with working with all the frontier labs to help them understand their models. So again, we're constantly evaluating them. We're constantly surfacing loss areas for them to improve on and so on and so on.”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 23:02 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Jul 24, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chen: Researchers Degrade AI Factuality Just to Boost LMSYS Rankings
“A lot of researchers, they'll tell us that their VPs make them focus on increasing their rank on LMSYS. And so I've had researchers explicitly tell me that they're okay with making their models worse. Add factuality works at following instructions as long as i…”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 27:09 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Jul 24, 2025 negative
Insight
Chen: Early Startups Should Not Hire Data Scientists as First Employees
“Like I would never hire data scientists when the first three people in a company. And I say that because I used to be a data scientist. Like data scientists are great when you want to optimize your product by two percent or five percent, but that's definitely …”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 6:55 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Jul 24, 2025 negative
Opinion
Chen: LMSYS Chatbot Arena is a giant plague on AI
“One of the things I think is a giant plague on AI is Elimsis, Elimarena.”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 19:40 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Jul 24, 2025 negative
Insight
Chen: Early-stage startups should not hire product managers
“Product managers are great when your company gets big enough. But at the beginning, you should be thinking about yourself about what product you want to build. And your engineer should be hands-on. They should be having great ideas as well.”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 7:14 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Jul 24, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Chen: Surge AI Was Profitable From Day One, Avoiding Venture Capital
“I think we were very, very lucky to be profitable from the start. So we didn't need the money. It always felt weird to give up control.”
Edwin Chen Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 2:42 No Priors Ep. 124 | With SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
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