Kiran Darisi

Co-founder, Atomicwork · 2 appearances on the record.

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2 predictions · 2 assertions · 1 opinion · 4 insights · 5 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 4 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, and 2 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Darisi: Building third helpdesk at Atomicwork after Zoho and Freshworks
“This is my third help desk in building, right? One, I did it in Zoho, which is an installable era where people install software to get things done. And I built Freshworks in a cloud era. Where the technology is actually booming, but still it took time, but I d…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 3:56 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran

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Everything Kiran Darisi said on the Neon Show that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Darisi predicts future SaaS startups hit $100M ARR with 100-200 people
“I strongly believe at this point of time, my engineering team even won't be hundred people. So that will be very strong. I mean, view I have it in the size of the team who can able to deliver high value companies will be way, way smaller, right? So like you wi…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 29:06 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Insight
Darisi: The $9-per-agent Google Ads SaaS playbook is dead
“The error is gone, right? So now you can't do like, okay, I will actually bet on digital sales. I can able to sell as nine dollar per agent subscription. Those days are gone, right? So those should be rethought about how you wanted to build digital sales. The …”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 53:45 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Insight
Darisi: AI workflow layers lack stickiness unless they own the underlying record
“You can actually build an application just a layer on top of a legacy systems where it can able to give you immense value, but you will be replaced because a new tool comes. So it's like there is no stickiness to it, right? So you are actually as good as a wor…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:10:15 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Darisi: 50,000 companies will reach $100M revenue in the AI era
“The market is going to increase. For one reason, now you can see it's not G-Twenty K, it will be G-Fifty K companies who can able to do hundred million dollars of revenue because the build is actually becoming shorter and the technology is becoming more widely…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:22:25 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Opinion
Darisi: Zero innovation occurred in ITSM over the past decade
“If you see for the last one decade, there is no innovation in the service management space, which is IT service management or an enterprise service management. If you take for last decade, there's still the leader is the youngest leader is two decades old, rig…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 51:02 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Disclosure
Darisi created AI clones of himself for first-level developer review decisions
“I created my clones of me, Where your first part of the review conclusion can happen so that you don't need to wait for me to take a decision so that you can able to take a first level decision. Still, I will come review it, et cetera, but it saves time becaus…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:07:54 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Disclosure
Atomicwork relies on outbound sales and spends zero on Google ads
“Our product managers are outbound. Our sales is outbound. We don't spend any money in Google digital ads, right?”
Kiran Darisi Dec 30, 2025 ▶ 15:12 Best of 3500 Minutes from Top Founders & Investors in 2025
Disclosure
Darisi: Atomicwork currently spends zero dollars on Google digital ads
“We don't spend any money in Google digital ads.”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 25:43 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Insight
Darisi: Moving SaaS upmarket to enterprise requires overhauling all core systems
“The things it when you actually move from an SMB to a mid-market to an enterprise, all your systems should change. Your sales motion should change. Your GTM motion should change. I mean, the sales and your marketing messaging should change. Your engineering sh…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 33:22 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Insight
Darisi: AI expands clickable product speccing beyond designers to founders
“So this is like a new category creation of product speccing, which was not there. It has been tuned towards only designers, which is like Figma, et cetera. Now it became to CEOs and also the product guys, anybody can able to do it, right? Very high fidelity, u…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:15:49 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Disclosure
Darisi: Atomicwork avoids per-seat pricing to sell an AI workforce instead
“That's why we don't have a seed pricing, right? Where we say that, oh, this many agents are there. SPEAKER_14: Okay. Kiran Darisi: We'll sell it kind of a thing. Kiran Darisi: We actually say that, okay, you no need to grow your team to manage the complexit…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:23:08 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Assertion Supported
Darisi: Building third helpdesk at Atomicwork after Zoho and Freshworks
“This is my third help desk in building, right? One, I did it in Zoho, which is an installable era where people install software to get things done. And I built Freshworks in a cloud era. Where the technology is actually booming, but still it took time, but I d…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 3:56 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Assertion Partly supported
Darisi: Freshworks built its initial product in three months using Rails
“To give a comparison at Freshworks, when we released the product, we released in three months because we actually ditched Java. We put Ruby on Rails because it is easy to bake in and actually release that entire product in three months, right?”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:02:11 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran
Disclosure
Darisi: Atomicwork uses custom GPTs per module to generate test cases
“For a QA we actually have a custom GPT for each module to generate the test cases. So you don't need to know, like, how you need to do it, because it already know the past, it already know the context, you actually give them the Figma files or whatever. This I…”
Kiran Darisi Sep 13, 2025 ▶ 1:07:26 4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Best of 3500 Minutes from Top Founders & Investors in 2025 Dec 30, 2025 4m
4 Startups. 2 Founders and 3 Eras Of SaaS: Installable → Cloud → AI | Sreedhar & Kiran Sep 13, 2025 31m
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