Dec 28, 2021 · 34m · neon-show

Bootstrap to IPO in 10 years ft. Prashant Pitti, founder EaseMyTrip

Prashant Pitti · 24m spoken Siddhartha Ahluwalia · 4m spoken
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Prashant Pitti, co-founder of EaseMyTrip, shares how the company bootstrapped its way from an early B2B travel tool to a multi-billion-dollar publicly listed online travel agency. He details how structural capital efficiency, zero convenience fees, and disciplined leadership created an enduring competitive moat against venture-funded rivals.

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Siddhartha as informed peer 2.2 Guest teaching 2.7 Guest disagreement 1.0 Siddhartha pushing back 0.1
05100:0010:0020:0030:000:05–3:05 · Siddhartha as informed peer 2/10 Early Venture Capital Rejections and Quick Evaluation Filters Prashant reflects on why VCs used heuristic filters to reject EaseMyTrip early on. The host conducts a standard podcast introduction and highlights company milestones.3:06–6:14 · Siddhartha as informed peer 1/10 Founding EaseMyTrip as a B2B Travel Agent Solution Host asks baseline founder backstory questions. Prashant explains starting with an offline agency to understand travel agent pain points and commission structures.6:16–8:45 · Siddhartha as informed peer 2/10 Bootstrapping Capital and the Zero Convenience Fee Pivot Host inquires into starting capital and cash flows. Prashant details the transition from breaking even in B2B to launching a zero convenience fee B2C model.8:48–12:37 · Siddhartha as informed peer 3/10 Expanding EaseMyTrip into a Full-Stack OTA Host highlights the challenge of staying lean against VC-subsidized OTAs. Prashant emphasizes operational discipline over market creation.12:38–15:33 · Siddhartha as informed peer 1/10 Overcoming Initial Sluggishness to Achieve Exponential Growth Host asks about revenue during the early B2C years. Prashant details how compounding repeat users led to 60%+ year-on-year growth after 2015.15:34–18:10 · Siddhartha as informed peer 2/10 Navigating the IPO Journey and Pandemic Delays Host asks about going public early. Prashant narrates the decision to list based on profitability and the dramatic pause right before the March 2020 lockdown.18:13–23:18 · Siddhartha as informed peer 2/10 Impact of the Pandemic and Strategic Operational Maneuvers Prashant details aggressive customer-centric pandemic bets, such as deploying company cash reserves for instant refunds and free medical cancellation policies.23:20–27:06 · Siddhartha as informed peer 2/10 Defensibility and Unit Economics in Commoditized Internet Businesses Prashant critiques VC-funded models in commoditized markets, arguing that high unit economics and lean structures ultimately prevail when cheap capital dries up.27:09–31:48 · Siddhartha as informed peer 5/10 Alternative Hiring Philosophy, Internal Growth, and Liquid RSUs Prashant explains his contrarian hiring of non-IITians and promoting internally. The host demonstrates domain knowledge by noting the unfair hiring advantage of liquid public RSUs over private ESOPs.0:05–3:05 · Guest teaching 3/10 Early Venture Capital Rejections and Quick Evaluation Filters Prashant reflects on why VCs used heuristic filters to reject EaseMyTrip early on. The host conducts a standard podcast introduction and highlights company milestones.3:06–6:14 · Guest teaching 2/10 Founding EaseMyTrip as a B2B Travel Agent Solution Host asks baseline founder backstory questions. Prashant explains starting with an offline agency to understand travel agent pain points and commission structures.6:16–8:45 · Guest teaching 2/10 Bootstrapping Capital and the Zero Convenience Fee Pivot Host inquires into starting capital and cash flows. Prashant details the transition from breaking even in B2B to launching a zero convenience fee B2C model.8:48–12:37 · Guest teaching 3/10 Expanding EaseMyTrip into a Full-Stack OTA Host highlights the challenge of staying lean against VC-subsidized OTAs. Prashant emphasizes operational discipline over market creation.12:38–15:33 · Guest teaching 2/10 Overcoming Initial Sluggishness to Achieve Exponential Growth Host asks about revenue during the early B2C years. Prashant details how compounding repeat users led to 60%+ year-on-year growth after 2015.15:34–18:10 · Guest teaching 2/10 Navigating the IPO Journey and Pandemic Delays Host asks about going public early. Prashant narrates the decision to list based on profitability and the dramatic pause right before the March 2020 lockdown.18:13–23:18 · Guest teaching 3/10 Impact of the Pandemic and Strategic Operational Maneuvers Prashant details aggressive customer-centric pandemic bets, such as deploying company cash reserves for instant refunds and free medical cancellation policies.23:20–27:06 · Guest teaching 4/10 Defensibility and Unit Economics in Commoditized Internet Businesses Prashant critiques VC-funded models in commoditized markets, arguing that high unit economics and lean structures ultimately prevail when cheap capital dries up.27:09–31:48 · Guest teaching 3/10 Alternative Hiring Philosophy, Internal Growth, and Liquid RSUs Prashant explains his contrarian hiring of non-IITians and promoting internally. The host demonstrates domain knowledge by noting the unfair hiring advantage of liquid public RSUs over private ESOPs.0:05–3:05 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Early Venture Capital Rejections and Quick Evaluation Filters Prashant reflects on why VCs used heuristic filters to reject EaseMyTrip early on. The host conducts a standard podcast introduction and highlights company milestones.3:06–6:14 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Founding EaseMyTrip as a B2B Travel Agent Solution Host asks baseline founder backstory questions. Prashant explains starting with an offline agency to understand travel agent pain points and commission structures.6:16–8:45 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Bootstrapping Capital and the Zero Convenience Fee Pivot Host inquires into starting capital and cash flows. Prashant details the transition from breaking even in B2B to launching a zero convenience fee B2C model.8:48–12:37 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Expanding EaseMyTrip into a Full-Stack OTA Host highlights the challenge of staying lean against VC-subsidized OTAs. Prashant emphasizes operational discipline over market creation.12:38–15:33 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Overcoming Initial Sluggishness to Achieve Exponential Growth Host asks about revenue during the early B2C years. Prashant details how compounding repeat users led to 60%+ year-on-year growth after 2015.15:34–18:10 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Navigating the IPO Journey and Pandemic Delays Host asks about going public early. Prashant narrates the decision to list based on profitability and the dramatic pause right before the March 2020 lockdown.18:13–23:18 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Impact of the Pandemic and Strategic Operational Maneuvers Prashant details aggressive customer-centric pandemic bets, such as deploying company cash reserves for instant refunds and free medical cancellation policies.23:20–27:06 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Defensibility and Unit Economics in Commoditized Internet Businesses Prashant critiques VC-funded models in commoditized markets, arguing that high unit economics and lean structures ultimately prevail when cheap capital dries up.27:09–31:48 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Alternative Hiring Philosophy, Internal Growth, and Liquid RSUs Prashant explains his contrarian hiring of non-IITians and promoting internally. The host demonstrates domain knowledge by noting the unfair hiring advantage of liquid public RSUs over private ESOPs.0:05–3:05 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Early Venture Capital Rejections and Quick Evaluation Filters Prashant reflects on why VCs used heuristic filters to reject EaseMyTrip early on. The host conducts a standard podcast introduction and highlights company milestones.3:06–6:14 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Founding EaseMyTrip as a B2B Travel Agent Solution Host asks baseline founder backstory questions. Prashant explains starting with an offline agency to understand travel agent pain points and commission structures.6:16–8:45 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Bootstrapping Capital and the Zero Convenience Fee Pivot Host inquires into starting capital and cash flows. Prashant details the transition from breaking even in B2B to launching a zero convenience fee B2C model.8:48–12:37 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Expanding EaseMyTrip into a Full-Stack OTA Host highlights the challenge of staying lean against VC-subsidized OTAs. Prashant emphasizes operational discipline over market creation.12:38–15:33 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Overcoming Initial Sluggishness to Achieve Exponential Growth Host asks about revenue during the early B2C years. Prashant details how compounding repeat users led to 60%+ year-on-year growth after 2015.15:34–18:10 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Navigating the IPO Journey and Pandemic Delays Host asks about going public early. Prashant narrates the decision to list based on profitability and the dramatic pause right before the March 2020 lockdown.18:13–23:18 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Impact of the Pandemic and Strategic Operational Maneuvers Prashant details aggressive customer-centric pandemic bets, such as deploying company cash reserves for instant refunds and free medical cancellation policies.23:20–27:06 · Siddhartha pushing back 0/10 Defensibility and Unit Economics in Commoditized Internet Businesses Prashant critiques VC-funded models in commoditized markets, arguing that high unit economics and lean structures ultimately prevail when cheap capital dries up.27:09–31:48 · Siddhartha pushing back 1/10 Alternative Hiring Philosophy, Internal Growth, and Liquid RSUs Prashant explains his contrarian hiring of non-IITians and promoting internally. The host demonstrates domain knowledge by noting the unfair hiring advantage of liquid public RSUs over private ESOPs.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 24:40 Critique of VC-funded business efficiency

Prashant aggressively dismisses the sustainability of VC-funded competitors, asserting that capital subsidization ruined their discipline while EaseMyTrip thrived on unit economics.

Hardest push from Siddhartha ▶ 30:23 Host clarifies RSUs vs ESOPs

The host steps in to refine the guest's framing, clarifying that offering liquid public RSUs creates a distinct talent retention advantage over illiquid startup ESOPs.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 27:35 Deconstructing IITian risk aversion

Prashant educates the host on his counterintuitive hiring strategy, explaining why he prefers NIT and BITS graduates who possess a less risk-averse operational mindset than IITians.

Siddhartha holds their own ▶ 30:23 Host outlines the public RSU equity advantage

The host demonstrates sharp financial insight into startup compensation structures, explaining how liquid public RSUs subsidize cash salaries while preserving a frugal operating model.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicSiddhartha as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementSiddhartha pushing backWhy
Early Venture Capital Rejections and Quick Evaluation Filters 2310 Prashant reflects on why VCs used heuristic filters to reject EaseMyTrip early on. The host conducts a standard podcast introduction and highlights company milestones.
Founding EaseMyTrip as a B2B Travel Agent Solution 1200 Host asks baseline founder backstory questions. Prashant explains starting with an offline agency to understand travel agent pain points and commission structures.
Bootstrapping Capital and the Zero Convenience Fee Pivot 2210 Host inquires into starting capital and cash flows. Prashant details the transition from breaking even in B2B to launching a zero convenience fee B2C model.
Expanding EaseMyTrip into a Full-Stack OTA 3310 Host highlights the challenge of staying lean against VC-subsidized OTAs. Prashant emphasizes operational discipline over market creation.
Overcoming Initial Sluggishness to Achieve Exponential Growth 1210 Host asks about revenue during the early B2C years. Prashant details how compounding repeat users led to 60%+ year-on-year growth after 2015.
Navigating the IPO Journey and Pandemic Delays 2200 Host asks about going public early. Prashant narrates the decision to list based on profitability and the dramatic pause right before the March 2020 lockdown.
Impact of the Pandemic and Strategic Operational Maneuvers 2310 Prashant details aggressive customer-centric pandemic bets, such as deploying company cash reserves for instant refunds and free medical cancellation policies.
Defensibility and Unit Economics in Commoditized Internet Businesses 2420 Prashant critiques VC-funded models in commoditized markets, arguing that high unit economics and lean structures ultimately prevail when cheap capital dries up.
Alternative Hiring Philosophy, Internal Growth, and Liquid RSUs 5321 Prashant explains his contrarian hiring of non-IITians and promoting internally. The host demonstrates domain knowledge by noting the unfair hiring advantage of liquid public RSUs over private ESOPs.

Statements from this episode (19)

Disclosure
Pitti: EaseMyTrip's B2C segment accounts for 93% of business
“And now our consumer business is 93% business and travel agent business is only seven percent.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 4:40
Disclosure
EaseMyTrip started with 5-10 lakh INR, never raised VC/PE/bank money
“We probably put in about five to 10 lakh rupees to start the business. And the business is still bootstrapped. In the last 13 years of running, we have never raised any money either from VC or PE or a bank.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 6:28
Assertion Not checkable as stated
EaseMyTrip had ~11,000 travel agents and broke even by year 3
“At the end of the third year, you know, we had almost about 11,000 travel agents who were using us business was growing, but that business wasn't profitable. It was barely breaking even.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 6:58
Assertion Supported
EaseMyTrip: Zero convenience fees since 2011 drove company growth
“In year, 2011, when we opened up ourselves to regular consumers, We didn't just, we didn't charge conveniences when we, and we still stick back to that policy and because of which the company has grown to where it is.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 8:21
Assertion Supported
Pitti: EaseMyTrip is India's second-largest and fastest-growing travel company
“So that is how the company is not only just the second largest, but we are also one of the fastest growing travel companies in India right now.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 10:35
Disclosure
Pitti: B2C expansion lifted EaseMyTrip margins to 5-6% without raising costs
“As soon as we shifted from B to B to B to C you know the operations did not change by much. Our operations remained the same, but however, the profitability increased dramatically. Just because, you know, now our margins are no longer one and a half to two per…”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 11:08
Assertion Supported
Pitti: Most OTAs charge 300 to 500 rupees per passenger in convenience fees
“Most of the OTs are charging anywhere between 300 to 500 rupees per passenger as convenience fees.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 12:18
Assertion Contradicted
EaseMyTrip grew over 60% annually from 2015 to 2020
“So from 2015 till 2020, there was no year where our business did not grow by more than 60%.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 15:09
Prediction Didn’t hold up
EaseMyTrip aims to become India's largest travel portal within two years
“We are the second largest travel portal right now. And in the next couple of years, we are looking forward to change the status again.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 15:22
Assertion Partly supported
Pitti: EaseMyTrip was the first pure internet company to IPO in 2021
“So to be honest, there was no internet company, which went public in year, 2018, 19, 20. We were the first company, which went public in year, 20, 21. All right. Internet company, first internet pure internet company to go public in year, 20, 21. Then came Zom…”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 15:52
Disclosure
EaseMyTrip stopped pre-IPO funding wires to delay its March 2020 listing
“And you know, on sixth of March, 20 20, I remember calling all those investors myself and saying that, Hey, something big is coming. And it's better that we put our IPO plan to indefinite position because, you know we were also planning to raise some pre IPO m…”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 17:31
Assertion Supported
Pitti: EaseMyTrip's booking volume halved to ~2,200 crore INR in FY21
“The company did business of about 4400 crores in FI-Twenty. Okay. Now that business fell to half in FI-Twenty-One. Our business you know, came to almost 2122 hundred crores. In FYI, thanks to the pandemic, right? The business volume went to half.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 18:49
Disclosure
Pitti: EaseMyTrip used 70-80 crore INR in reserves to pre-refund customers
“So we dipped ourselves with the we dipped our cash reserves by about 70 to 80 crores. And we gave consumers money even before airlines gave us the money.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 21:17
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pitti: VC money dried up in travel because funded startups failed to deliver returns
“See, eventually one day for, I can speak for my industry, my travel industry, the money has dried up. The VC money has dried up just because none of the players have successfully delivered the value. To the VCs, to the PEs, to the banks.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 25:39
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Pitti: VC funding will dry up for commoditized internet sectors over the next decade
“For the next decade, I'm seeing that the same thing will happen for a lot of internet companies, which are almost commoditized in nature.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 26:18
Assertion Supported
Pitti: EaseMyTrip stayed profitable without convenience fees while rivals lost money
“Our unit economics is so strong that even, even pandemic could not you know, we are so resilient that even pandemic could not make us a loss making company. That, that I think is the biggest mode, and because we are so, so robust, we are so capital efficient, …”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 26:29
Opinion
Pitti: IIT Graduates Are More Risk-Averse Than NIT and BITS Peers
“Most of the IITians are actually risk adverse people. I mean, we studied way too hard to get into IIT, right? So, and I value people from bits. I value people from NITs because they didn't study that hard. They're not that risk adverse people. They didn't stud…”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 27:54
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pitti: 17 of EaseMyTrip's First 20 Employees Remain at the Company
“When we had about 20 people, the first time we had 20 people was in year 2010, right? When we, the company had about 20 people. Of those 20 founding members, 17 are still with these matter.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 28:35
Opinion
Pitti: Hiring From MakeMyTrip or Cleartrip Won't Solve EaseMyTrip's Problems
“Hiring somebody from Make My Trip, Clear Trip, Yatra, they're not going to help solve the problems which we are solving or the kind of structure which we have.”
Prashant Pitti Dec 28, 2021 ▶ 29:25
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