Jul 23, 2021 · 1h 5m · my-first-million
Why Dunder Mifflin Should Be a Real Company & A Look Inside MicroAcquire | My First Million #203
Shaan Puri · 22m spoken Andrew Gazdecki · 20m spoken Sam Parr · 15m spoken Intro/Outro Singer · 18s spoken
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In this episode of My First Million, hosts Sam Parr and Sean Puri brainstorm innovative business models centered on nostalgic IP licensing and turnkey local services before interviewing MicroAcquire founder Andrew Gazdecki about his eight-figure exit and the booming micro-SaaS acquisition ecosystem.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The hosts hold 64.9% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
The hosts as informed peer 4.8 Guest teaching 1.7 Guest disagreement 0.7 The hosts pushing back 0.9
speaking balance: gold is the hosts, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 45:07 Playful retaliation over mispronunciation and tax figures
Andrew corrects Sam's QSBS calculations and mockingly calls him 'Sean' in direct payback for butchering his last name at the start of the interview.
Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 52:20 Sam rejects Andrew's claim that he isn't ultra-wealthySam refuses to let Andrew downplay his financial standing, pointing out statistical data showing that an eight-figure exit in one's twenties ranks among the top 600 richest young people in America.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 44:41 Andrew explains QSBS tax rules and corrects host mathAndrew breaks down how structuring a stock deal and buying cash on hand allowed him to save millions via QSBS, correcting Sam's incorrect 15 percent estimate to 20 percent.
The host holds their own ▶ 36:51 Shaan articulates market network theoryShaan demonstrates superior theoretical frameworks by connecting MicroAcquire's new SPV features directly to AngelList and NFX's market network thesis.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The hosts as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The hosts pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Episode Overview and Research Assistant Updates | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | In this host-only opening segment, Shaan and Sam trade business insights about IP licensing and Tillman Fertitta's restaurant empire Landry's. Because no guest is present, guest combativeness and schooling scores remain at zero. | |
| Brainstorming Businesses Built on Fictional and Nostalgic Brands | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Shaan pitches startup ideas built on licensing nostalgic intellectual property such as Dunder Mifflin and Wonka bars. The dynamic is purely collaborative between the two co-hosts. | |
| Franchise Economics and Casual Dining Realities | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | The hosts discuss franchise food economics and Jeff Bezos's space flight while debating anti-billionaire sentiment online. As a host dialogue, guest-related metrics remain zero. | |
| Turnkey Business Models: The Bill's Lemonade Playbook | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Shaan outlines the business-in-a-box model exemplified by Bill's Lemonade and explores potential rollup applications. Sam enthusiastically agrees and connects it to his past hot dog cart experience. | |
| Productizing Local Services and the Lessons of iCracked | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Sam shares inside knowledge regarding the rise and fall of AJ Forsythe's venture-backed repair startup iCracked. The hosts analyze the risks of overcapitalizing service businesses. | |
| Inside MicroAcquire and the Power of Market Networks | 7 | 2 | 1 | 2 | Andrew Gazdecki joins the podcast to discuss MicroAcquire, while Shaan demonstrates deep domain knowledge by analyzing the platform through NFX's market network framework. The interaction is friendly and collaborative. | |
| Andrew Gazdecki's Journey from Bizness Apps to an Eight-Figure Exit | 4 | 6 | 2 | 2 | Andrew walks through the eight-figure sale of Bizness Apps and educates the hosts on deal structuring. He corrects Sam on QSBS tax percentages, playfully teasing him about mispronouncing his name earlier. | |
| Handling Sudden Wealth and Choosing Boring Investments | 5 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Andrew discusses the emotional shock of sudden wealth and his conservative index fund strategy. Sam pushes back when Andrew downplays his wealth, insisting that his net worth places him in an elite young tier. | |
| Profitable Micro-SaaS Trends and Successful Marketplace Sales | 5 | 4 | 1 | 1 | Andrew highlights specific micro-SaaS niche acquisitions like PushEngage and Median. Shaan frames browsing marketplace listings as a high-value practical MBA education for aspiring founders. |
Statements from this episode (21)
Puri and Gazdecki bought a MicroAcquire business for a college senior
“We bought a, me and Andrew bought a business for this kid who was like a college senior. We bought him a business to go run just as an experiment.”
Chris Pratt was discovered while waiting tables at Bubba Gump Shrimp
“He was a waiter at Bubble Grump Shrimp Company, and this is how he got discovered. He was waiting on a table for this producer, this director producer lady, and he's like, oh, I love that thing you made, and she's like, oh, that's great, blah, blah, blah, and …”
Landry's is the largest US company owned entirely by one person
“I am pretty positive that Landry's is the largest company in America that is owned by one person. Tillman Fertitta owns 100% of the business. He owns literally every single share.”
Landry's generated $5B in revenue and up to $2B EBITDA pre-COVID
“Right around the beginning of COVID, they were doing something like five billion in revenue and like 1.5 to two billion in EBITDA.”
Dormant 90s brands retain emotional equity with millennials despite zero market value
“If you're basically 30 or 40 right now, there's a bunch of brands that have like zero kind of like equity value anymore, but the brand names you grew up with it. So you just, so it still means something to you.”
An agency licensing dormant nostalgic brands to manufacturers could be highly profitable
“You could create, ah, so, so another idea is to create the nostalgia licensing company, and all it does is it goes and buys options on these brands, and then it pedals them to existing makers of products, and it just says, hey, why don't you use, we have this …”
Jeff Bezos was an early investor in Business Insider
“Jeff Bezos was actually an early investor in Business Insider.”
Funding space ventures creates jobs and technology, rather than wasting capital
“When you fund a space company, you're paying, you know, that money doesn't just like go into space and just vanish.
[991] Sam Parr: Yeah.
[991] Sam Parr: I think Blue Origin has like, 3000 employees, I think.
[995] Sean Puri: When he spends the money, it's g…”
Turnkey package Bill's Lemonade generates approximately $5 million in annual revenue
“This is like a business in a box, and this business does about five million a year, roughly.”
Parr launched his hot dog stand using a $5,000 turnkey package
“When I started my hot dog stand, there was a guy in Tennessee who was doing this exact same things for hot dog stands. So you'd give him five grand and he would send you everything you needed along with the state rules and things like that.”
Photo quality is the primary differentiator between winning and losing Airbnb listings
“And my wife works at Airbnb and I think she has told me, I don't remember if who told me, I think it was her that told me that the number one difference between a winning Airbnb and a losing Airbnb is the pictures.”
Phone repair network iCracked raised $20M to $30M from Andreessen Horowitz
“And what they did was they actually raised like, twenty million or thirty million dollars from Adresen Horowitz.”
iCracked generated up to $30M annually selling replacement screens to repair technicians
“They're doing like, thirty million dollars a year in Ecom sales. 30 I don't know how much service revenue they're making, but just selling screens, they're doing like, 20 or thirty million dollars in sales for the service.”
MicroAcquire reached approximately $675,000 in subscription revenue
“We're at like six 75 thousand.”
Gazdecki's crowdsourced Twitter micro-SPAC cost 60 hours and $15,000 in legal fees
“The legal bill for me was like 15 K and I spent like 60 fucking hours.”
Non-technical startup founders should learn to manage engineers instead of coding
“I always recommend don't learn how to code, learn how to manage engineers properly.”
Only 600 Americans around age 32 have over $50M in liquid assets
“We did some research and we found out that there's like 600 Americans who have that much money or more who are also in around that same age.”
Future small business entrepreneurs will launch niche SaaS instead of traditional services
“I think the future of the small business economy is going to be online, digital, and profitable. People who used to want to start like a restaurant or like a plumbing business or something like that, those young entrepreneurs are going to be looking to start a…”
Developer API tool Restpack sold for $500,000 on MicroAcquire in one month
“Arsene sold Restpack for half a million on MicroQuire in about a month. I believe it was like a developer API tool.”