Dec 11, 2023 · 1h 3m · my-first-million

5 Internet Goldmines To Spot The Next $1B Trend | Steph Smith (#529)

Shaan Puri · 21m spoken Steph Smith · 20m spoken Sam Parr · 13m spoken
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Steph Smith joins Sam Parr and Sean Puri on My First Million to reveal unconventional online data repositories—or 'internet pipes'—for discovering high-potential business opportunities before they reach the mainstream. The episode explores actionable frameworks for trend identification across patent filings, demographic shifts, sci-fi archives, and creator monetization models.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The hosts hold 62.8% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

The hosts as informed peer 6.1 Guest teaching 4.4 Guest disagreement 1.1 The hosts pushing back 1.9
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:00:000:00–6:00 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Introducing Internet Goldmines for Trend Spotting Steph outlines patent tracking databases like Patent Drop and PatentsExpiringToday, while Sam immediately counters with a deep dive into BlueChew's business model and similarweb traffic analysis.6:00–9:01 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 The Viral Appeal of Miniature and Oversized Products Sam and Shaan discuss Mini Brands and toy mogul Nick Mowbray, riffing with Steph on the psychological consumer appeal of miniaturized and oversized products.9:03–11:44 · The hosts as informed peer 4/10 HubSpot CRM Platform Advertisement After an ad read, Steph quizzes the hosts on the fastest growing sports from SFIA research data, revealing surprising trends like alpine touring and winter fat biking.11:45–13:53 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Sean Puri's Suburban Triathlon Business Concept Shaan pitches his humorous concept for a Suburban Triathlon aimed at middle-aged men, while Sam enthusiastically validates the branding potential.13:53–20:08 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Mining Sci-Fi Databases for Future Product Innovations Steph explains the TechNovelgy sci-fi database created by Pakki McCormick, educating the hosts on historical predictive timelines and companies like Varda manufacturing drugs in space.20:08–30:37 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Demographic Shifts and Air Quality Data Goldmines Steph shares Our World in Data findings on global air pollution and particulate matter impact, prompting Shaan to analyze demographic shifts and eldercare tailwinds.30:37–38:36 · The hosts as informed peer 8/10 Betting on Megatrends from GLP-1 to Filtration Shaan delivers an in-depth breakdown of investing in megatrends like GLP-1 drugs and his early Twitch video streaming pivot, while Sam discusses showerhead filtration businesses.38:36–43:33 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Exploring Gadget Flow, Hardware Accessories, and Pet Tech Steph explores Gadget Flow accessory opportunities and pet communication tech like Fluent Pet, while Shaan shares an anecdote about his dog's name.43:36–47:21 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Steph Smith on Becoming an Independent Internet Artist Steph describes wanting to be an independent internet artist rather than raising venture capital, while Shaan jokingly roasts her for falling for a16z corporate swag.47:21–59:27 · The hosts as informed peer 8/10 Product Monetization Frameworks and Internet Pipes Launch Shaan and Sam mentor Steph on product monetization for Internet Pipes, contrasting low-cost digital products with Tim Ferriss and Alex Hormozi's ultra-free vs ultra-premium frameworks.59:27–1:03:15 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and the Michael Scott Effect Sam provides candid advice on salary negotiation and imposter syndrome based on past experience managing Steph, while Shaan coins the 'Michael Scott syndrome' management concept.0:00–6:00 · Guest teaching 5/10 Introducing Internet Goldmines for Trend Spotting Steph outlines patent tracking databases like Patent Drop and PatentsExpiringToday, while Sam immediately counters with a deep dive into BlueChew's business model and similarweb traffic analysis.6:00–9:01 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Viral Appeal of Miniature and Oversized Products Sam and Shaan discuss Mini Brands and toy mogul Nick Mowbray, riffing with Steph on the psychological consumer appeal of miniaturized and oversized products.9:03–11:44 · Guest teaching 6/10 HubSpot CRM Platform Advertisement After an ad read, Steph quizzes the hosts on the fastest growing sports from SFIA research data, revealing surprising trends like alpine touring and winter fat biking.11:45–13:53 · Guest teaching 1/10 Sean Puri's Suburban Triathlon Business Concept Shaan pitches his humorous concept for a Suburban Triathlon aimed at middle-aged men, while Sam enthusiastically validates the branding potential.13:53–20:08 · Guest teaching 7/10 Mining Sci-Fi Databases for Future Product Innovations Steph explains the TechNovelgy sci-fi database created by Pakki McCormick, educating the hosts on historical predictive timelines and companies like Varda manufacturing drugs in space.20:08–30:37 · Guest teaching 7/10 Demographic Shifts and Air Quality Data Goldmines Steph shares Our World in Data findings on global air pollution and particulate matter impact, prompting Shaan to analyze demographic shifts and eldercare tailwinds.30:37–38:36 · Guest teaching 4/10 Betting on Megatrends from GLP-1 to Filtration Shaan delivers an in-depth breakdown of investing in megatrends like GLP-1 drugs and his early Twitch video streaming pivot, while Sam discusses showerhead filtration businesses.38:36–43:33 · Guest teaching 6/10 Exploring Gadget Flow, Hardware Accessories, and Pet Tech Steph explores Gadget Flow accessory opportunities and pet communication tech like Fluent Pet, while Shaan shares an anecdote about his dog's name.43:36–47:21 · Guest teaching 3/10 Steph Smith on Becoming an Independent Internet Artist Steph describes wanting to be an independent internet artist rather than raising venture capital, while Shaan jokingly roasts her for falling for a16z corporate swag.47:21–59:27 · Guest teaching 3/10 Product Monetization Frameworks and Internet Pipes Launch Shaan and Sam mentor Steph on product monetization for Internet Pipes, contrasting low-cost digital products with Tim Ferriss and Alex Hormozi's ultra-free vs ultra-premium frameworks.59:27–1:03:15 · Guest teaching 2/10 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and the Michael Scott Effect Sam provides candid advice on salary negotiation and imposter syndrome based on past experience managing Steph, while Shaan coins the 'Michael Scott syndrome' management concept.0:00–6:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Introducing Internet Goldmines for Trend Spotting Steph outlines patent tracking databases like Patent Drop and PatentsExpiringToday, while Sam immediately counters with a deep dive into BlueChew's business model and similarweb traffic analysis.6:00–9:01 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Viral Appeal of Miniature and Oversized Products Sam and Shaan discuss Mini Brands and toy mogul Nick Mowbray, riffing with Steph on the psychological consumer appeal of miniaturized and oversized products.9:03–11:44 · Guest disagreement 1/10 HubSpot CRM Platform Advertisement After an ad read, Steph quizzes the hosts on the fastest growing sports from SFIA research data, revealing surprising trends like alpine touring and winter fat biking.11:45–13:53 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Sean Puri's Suburban Triathlon Business Concept Shaan pitches his humorous concept for a Suburban Triathlon aimed at middle-aged men, while Sam enthusiastically validates the branding potential.13:53–20:08 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Mining Sci-Fi Databases for Future Product Innovations Steph explains the TechNovelgy sci-fi database created by Pakki McCormick, educating the hosts on historical predictive timelines and companies like Varda manufacturing drugs in space.20:08–30:37 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Demographic Shifts and Air Quality Data Goldmines Steph shares Our World in Data findings on global air pollution and particulate matter impact, prompting Shaan to analyze demographic shifts and eldercare tailwinds.30:37–38:36 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Betting on Megatrends from GLP-1 to Filtration Shaan delivers an in-depth breakdown of investing in megatrends like GLP-1 drugs and his early Twitch video streaming pivot, while Sam discusses showerhead filtration businesses.38:36–43:33 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Exploring Gadget Flow, Hardware Accessories, and Pet Tech Steph explores Gadget Flow accessory opportunities and pet communication tech like Fluent Pet, while Shaan shares an anecdote about his dog's name.43:36–47:21 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Steph Smith on Becoming an Independent Internet Artist Steph describes wanting to be an independent internet artist rather than raising venture capital, while Shaan jokingly roasts her for falling for a16z corporate swag.47:21–59:27 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Product Monetization Frameworks and Internet Pipes Launch Shaan and Sam mentor Steph on product monetization for Internet Pipes, contrasting low-cost digital products with Tim Ferriss and Alex Hormozi's ultra-free vs ultra-premium frameworks.59:27–1:03:15 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and the Michael Scott Effect Sam provides candid advice on salary negotiation and imposter syndrome based on past experience managing Steph, while Shaan coins the 'Michael Scott syndrome' management concept.0:00–6:00 · The hosts pushing back 2/10 Introducing Internet Goldmines for Trend Spotting Steph outlines patent tracking databases like Patent Drop and PatentsExpiringToday, while Sam immediately counters with a deep dive into BlueChew's business model and similarweb traffic analysis.6:00–9:01 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 The Viral Appeal of Miniature and Oversized Products Sam and Shaan discuss Mini Brands and toy mogul Nick Mowbray, riffing with Steph on the psychological consumer appeal of miniaturized and oversized products.9:03–11:44 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 HubSpot CRM Platform Advertisement After an ad read, Steph quizzes the hosts on the fastest growing sports from SFIA research data, revealing surprising trends like alpine touring and winter fat biking.11:45–13:53 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Sean Puri's Suburban Triathlon Business Concept Shaan pitches his humorous concept for a Suburban Triathlon aimed at middle-aged men, while Sam enthusiastically validates the branding potential.13:53–20:08 · The hosts pushing back 2/10 Mining Sci-Fi Databases for Future Product Innovations Steph explains the TechNovelgy sci-fi database created by Pakki McCormick, educating the hosts on historical predictive timelines and companies like Varda manufacturing drugs in space.20:08–30:37 · The hosts pushing back 2/10 Demographic Shifts and Air Quality Data Goldmines Steph shares Our World in Data findings on global air pollution and particulate matter impact, prompting Shaan to analyze demographic shifts and eldercare tailwinds.30:37–38:36 · The hosts pushing back 3/10 Betting on Megatrends from GLP-1 to Filtration Shaan delivers an in-depth breakdown of investing in megatrends like GLP-1 drugs and his early Twitch video streaming pivot, while Sam discusses showerhead filtration businesses.38:36–43:33 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 Exploring Gadget Flow, Hardware Accessories, and Pet Tech Steph explores Gadget Flow accessory opportunities and pet communication tech like Fluent Pet, while Shaan shares an anecdote about his dog's name.43:36–47:21 · The hosts pushing back 3/10 Steph Smith on Becoming an Independent Internet Artist Steph describes wanting to be an independent internet artist rather than raising venture capital, while Shaan jokingly roasts her for falling for a16z corporate swag.47:21–59:27 · The hosts pushing back 4/10 Product Monetization Frameworks and Internet Pipes Launch Shaan and Sam mentor Steph on product monetization for Internet Pipes, contrasting low-cost digital products with Tim Ferriss and Alex Hormozi's ultra-free vs ultra-premium frameworks.59:27–1:03:15 · The hosts pushing back 2/10 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and the Michael Scott Effect Sam provides candid advice on salary negotiation and imposter syndrome based on past experience managing Steph, while Shaan coins the 'Michael Scott syndrome' management concept.

speaking balance: gold is the hosts, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · the hosts 47.1% · guest 52.9%0:00 · the hosts 47.1% · guest 52.9%3:00 · the hosts 86.7% · guest 13.3%3:00 · the hosts 86.7% · guest 13.3%6:00 · the hosts 85.6% · guest 14.4%6:00 · the hosts 85.6% · guest 14.4%9:00 · the hosts 54% · guest 46%9:00 · the hosts 54% · guest 46%12:00 · the hosts 62.3% · guest 37.7%12:00 · the hosts 62.3% · guest 37.7%15:00 · the hosts 21.2% · guest 78.8%15:00 · the hosts 21.2% · guest 78.8%18:00 · the hosts 38.3% · guest 61.7%18:00 · the hosts 38.3% · guest 61.7%21:00 · the hosts 93.4% · guest 6.6%21:00 · the hosts 93.4% · guest 6.6%24:00 · the hosts 9.9% · guest 90.1%24:00 · the hosts 9.9% · guest 90.1%27:00 · the hosts 43.9% · guest 56.1%27:00 · the hosts 43.9% · guest 56.1%30:00 · the hosts 83.3% · guest 16.7%30:00 · the hosts 83.3% · guest 16.7%33:00 · the hosts 88.2% · guest 11.8%33:00 · the hosts 88.2% · guest 11.8%36:00 · the hosts 63.5% · guest 36.5%36:00 · the hosts 63.5% · guest 36.5%39:00 · the hosts 11.7% · guest 88.3%39:00 · the hosts 11.7% · guest 88.3%42:00 · the hosts 70.6% · guest 29.4%42:00 · the hosts 70.6% · guest 29.4%45:00 · the hosts 66% · guest 34%45:00 · the hosts 66% · guest 34%48:00 · the hosts 56.3% · guest 43.7%48:00 · the hosts 56.3% · guest 43.7%51:00 · the hosts 76.9% · guest 23.1%51:00 · the hosts 76.9% · guest 23.1%54:00 · the hosts 80.9% · guest 19.1%54:00 · the hosts 80.9% · guest 19.1%57:00 · the hosts 84.6% · guest 15.4%57:00 · the hosts 84.6% · guest 15.4%1:00:00 · the hosts 92.4% · guest 7.6%1:00:00 · the hosts 92.4% · guest 7.6%1:03:00 · the hosts 41.9% · guest 58.1%1:03:00 · the hosts 41.9% · guest 58.1%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 45:20 Steph rejects VC fundraising for internet artistry

Steph firmly dismisses the premise of taking venture capital or building a traditional startup, asserting her desire to operate entirely as a solo creator.

Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 54:20 Shaan pushes back on Steph's underpricing impulse

Shaan challenges Steph's plan to underprice her digital assets, arguing that incremental sub-scale monetization distracts from building high-leverage networks.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 18:07 Steph explains microgravity drug manufacturing

Steph explains the physics behind microgravity chemical synthesis to Sam when he questions why companies like Varda manufacture pharmaceuticals in space instead of on Earth.

The host holds their own ▶ 34:40 Shaan articulates the power of riding megatrends

Shaan draws on Mark Zuckerberg's framework and his own company sale to Twitch to articulate why capitalizing on macro tailwinds beats micro-execution.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe hosts as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe hosts pushing backWhy
Introducing Internet Goldmines for Trend Spotting 7512 Steph outlines patent tracking databases like Patent Drop and PatentsExpiringToday, while Sam immediately counters with a deep dive into BlueChew's business model and similarweb traffic analysis.
The Viral Appeal of Miniature and Oversized Products 5411 Sam and Shaan discuss Mini Brands and toy mogul Nick Mowbray, riffing with Steph on the psychological consumer appeal of miniaturized and oversized products.
HubSpot CRM Platform Advertisement 4611 After an ad read, Steph quizzes the hosts on the fastest growing sports from SFIA research data, revealing surprising trends like alpine touring and winter fat biking.
Sean Puri's Suburban Triathlon Business Concept 6100 Shaan pitches his humorous concept for a Suburban Triathlon aimed at middle-aged men, while Sam enthusiastically validates the branding potential.
Mining Sci-Fi Databases for Future Product Innovations 5712 Steph explains the TechNovelgy sci-fi database created by Pakki McCormick, educating the hosts on historical predictive timelines and companies like Varda manufacturing drugs in space.
Demographic Shifts and Air Quality Data Goldmines 6712 Steph shares Our World in Data findings on global air pollution and particulate matter impact, prompting Shaan to analyze demographic shifts and eldercare tailwinds.
Betting on Megatrends from GLP-1 to Filtration 8413 Shaan delivers an in-depth breakdown of investing in megatrends like GLP-1 drugs and his early Twitch video streaming pivot, while Sam discusses showerhead filtration businesses.
Exploring Gadget Flow, Hardware Accessories, and Pet Tech 5611 Steph explores Gadget Flow accessory opportunities and pet communication tech like Fluent Pet, while Shaan shares an anecdote about his dog's name.
Steph Smith on Becoming an Independent Internet Artist 6323 Steph describes wanting to be an independent internet artist rather than raising venture capital, while Shaan jokingly roasts her for falling for a16z corporate swag.
Product Monetization Frameworks and Internet Pipes Launch 8324 Shaan and Sam mentor Steph on product monetization for Internet Pipes, contrasting low-cost digital products with Tim Ferriss and Alex Hormozi's ultra-free vs ultra-premium frameworks.
Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and the Michael Scott Effect 7212 Sam provides candid advice on salary negotiation and imposter syndrome based on past experience managing Steph, while Shaan coins the 'Michael Scott syndrome' management concept.

Statements from this episode (14)

Assertion Partly supported
Parr: Global Erectile Dysfunction Market Will Reach 500 Million by 2030
“The customer base for that is like, a 150 or two hundred million people in the world. And then it's projected by 2000, 2030 to be like four or five hundred million.”
Sam Parr Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 3:26
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Parr: BlueChew Bootstrapped to $200M in Sales After Viagra's Patent Expired
“I don't know how big they are, but I'm pretty sure they're between a 102 hundred million dollars a year in sales, and they entirely bootstrapped this company starting in 2017, and it was because of that patent that expired, and they built this business because…”
Sam Parr Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 3:50
Insight
Puri: Extreme Sizing Is a Reliable Playbook for Consumer Product Differentiation
“Either like an overly large thing or a completely tiny thing is just like one way to make a product.”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 8:01
Assertion Supported
Puri: Alpine Touring Is the Second Fastest-Growing Sport After Pickleball
“It does seem like pickleball is number one, but number two, I would have never guessed Alpine touring.”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 10:32
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Puri: A Suburban Triathlon for Unfit Men Could Rival Tough Mudder
“I really think that if somebody created some kind of thing for, you know, out of shape, middle-aged guys to do, they'll do it. And I think if you make it, if you brand it almost like as the non-fit person triathlon, and it's gotta have like some version of eat…”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 12:36
Assertion Supported
Smith: Microgravity Enables Novel Pharmaceutical Compounds Impossible to Synthesize on Earth
“The physics when you're on earth due to gravity and some of the other forces that don't exist in space results in you not being able to create certain chemical structures, and that impacts the way that drugs can be basically ingested or administered. And so th…”
Steph Smith Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 18:15
Insight
Puri: Elder Care Businesses Possess a Massive Demographic Tailwind Over 20 Years
“If you're building anything that's in the elder care that you're going to own for, let's say, 1020 years you have this immense tailwind behind you, which is just that the population of people who fit, you know, the customer base is going to grow Dramatically. …”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 22:35
Insight
Puri: The Fourth-Best Way to Surf a Megatrend Will Still Succeed
“If you know what the mega, you know, the big tidal waves are, and you just figure out, okay, what's the best way to surf this? And even if you don't figure out the best way, even the fourth best way to surf a mega trend is gonna, gonna work in your favor.”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 34:24
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Parr: Filtered Showerheads Will Mirror the Direct-to-Consumer Boxed Mattress Boom
“I think that is going to be a pretty big company. And I think there's going to be a whole, I imagine it's going to be like a Like a boxed mattress trend, where no one has them, and then suddenly many people have them, and there's tons and tons of competition, …”
Sam Parr Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 37:56
Insight
Smith: Mass Hardware Adoption Almost Always Unlocks Massive Secondary Accessory Markets
“Every time there's a new device that ends up penetrating, ah, a lot of people's homes or wallets, ah, there's almost always an opportunity for accessories.”
Steph Smith Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 39:06
Assertion Supported
Smith: 70% of Teenagers in the United States Own Apple AirPods
“70% of all U.S. Teens have AirPods.”
Steph Smith Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 39:51
Disclosure
Puri: A Personal Course Generated $1M Annually From 10 Days of Teaching
“I had a course that I was teaching maybe five to 10 days a year. Not much. And it was making over a million dollars a year.”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 54:36
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Parr: Across 75 Hires, Female Candidates Negotiated Salaries Far Less Than Men
“Women in particular were horrible at pushing back on their salary for what they should ask for. And, you know, my company was small. We, in aggregate, probably hired 75 people. But I noticed a small trend of women in particular did not push back nearly as hard…”
Sam Parr Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 59:53
Insight
Puri: Great Hires Should Make a Founder Feel Like Michael Scott
“I only want to hire people that make me feel like I'm Michael. I'm the Michael Scott of the office. That's actually how it should feel when you're doing it right.”
Shaan Puri Dec 11, 2023 ▶ 1:02:50
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