Eleonore Crespo

Co-Founder, Pigment · 1 appearance on the record.

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21statements → 7claims → 2claims resolved → 4.05/5average certainty → 1.86/5average debate potential → 4.2/5argument clarity · the sources →

2 supported 0 partly supported 0 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 4 not checkable as stated how the 7 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

3 predictions · 4 assertions · 4 insights · 9 disclosures · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 7 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 4 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Eleonore argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Coca-Cola uses Pigment's AI analyst agent for supply and demand analysis
“I could take the example of Coca-Cola today, Who is using today's analyst agent, which is the first that we launched to actually understand where there are problems between supply and demand.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 26:45 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO

Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.2 / 5 directness 4.7 · coherence 4.1 · precision 3.9 · compression 3.4

answered every one of 14 assessed questions directly

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

271 words/min while actually speaking · 39.3 um and uh per 1k words

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 10,726 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Eleonore Crespo said on the MAD Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2035
Crespo: Microsoft Excel will still be actively used in ten years
“I have a prediction that Excel will still be here in five years. And there is a good reason. You can keep that. In five years, Excel will still be there. And in 10 years, Excel will still be there.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 36:31 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Crespo: Pigment aims to build a $100B+ to $200B+ business
“We have a very, very large ambition with Romain. We want to build a, You know, a hundred billion dollar business, if not more two hundred billion, if we can, or even more.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 1:04:07 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Crespo: AI will compress 15-year scientific research timelines into two years
“I actually think that now, probably in two years, you can actually, actually achieve things that you would have done before in 15 years.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 8:58 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Crespo: Enterprise AI finance systems will always require human supervision
“I do believe that in what we do, they will always be on top of that a supervising human.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 24:24 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Insight
Crespo: Developers cannot effectively use Cursor without understanding coding fundamentals
“The fundamentals of what coding is today, you are not able to use cursor. If you don't understand coding”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 54:53 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Crespo: Pigment reduces cohort analysis build times from months to minutes
“I think vibe planning is the sense that now you can build easily models on pigment. So you can do vibe planning on like, you know, like building super, super simple, like maybe, you know, like a cohort analysis that would have taken you months to build. Now yo…”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 56:33 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Deloitte partners carry a $25 million annual quota, says Crespo
“For instance, I was with a Deloitte partner, and they were telling me, for them, their yearly so-called quota is twenty-five million. And for those who don't know, in enterprise software, the quota is more between one and two million if you're lucky, right?”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 1:02:29 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Insight
Enterprise startups must initially source all leads for Global System Integrators
“They will take time then to build the practice, they will take time to start feeding you with leads, so at the beginning, do not wait for them also to think they're going to source leads for you. At the beginning, you are going to be the only one to source lea…”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 1:02:58 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Insight
Crespo: Pigment becomes useful for companies at around 1,000 employees
“And really, I think pigment starts to be useful when you start to be, you know, approximately a thousand employees.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 4:49 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment rejects all job candidates who lack AI fluency and curiosity
“Indeed, for sure. I mean in, in the interview process, whether we are hiring for An executive, or whether we are hiring for a seller, or whether we are hiring for an engineer if they do not have the curiosity and haven't, do not have like a thoughtful idea aro…”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 13:40 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Assertion Supported
Coca-Cola uses Pigment's AI analyst agent for supply and demand analysis
“I could take the example of Coca-Cola today, Who is using today's analyst agent, which is the first that we launched to actually understand where there are problems between supply and demand.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 26:45 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment building autonomous planning system with global transportation giant
“Yes, so actually, we are working already with some customers on an autonomous planning system, and we are working right now very seriously with, I can say, the largest transportation company in the world, I think, as of today.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 38:46 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Crespo: Pigment runs calculations natively rather than relying on LLM tokens
“It's probably not as token intensive as other businesses because we run our calculations ourselves, so it's more like you use the LLM to actually question the platform. But then the platform does the calculation itself.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 44:33 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
What-if
Building a US-facing startup from Europe was impossible before COVID-19
“I think that would not have been possible to be honest, before COVID.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 58:19 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Crespo: The US accounts for 60% of Pigment's revenue
“U.S. Is our number one market. It's 60% of our revenue today.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 58:32 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Insight
Crespo: Startups build partner velocity with boutique firms before GSIs
“What you see is, it's a little bit like when you build a business, is that you get velocity with the boutique firms first. It's exactly like you get velocity with your SMB customers before you get velocity with enterprise.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 1:01:49 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment built custom AI lead-scoring and seller-routing tools internally
“We have built also our internal AI tools with the growth team that we have internally to help actually feed the right leads to the right seller at the same time, know exactly. When someone might be ready to buy, etc.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 15:48 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Assertion Supported
Pigment launches three AI agents: Analyst, Modeler, and Planner
“So we have launched and we have announced our first three agents, analyst, modeler, and planner.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 20:43 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment plans to launch tens of AI agents including a consulting agent
“But before that, I think we're gonna launch tens of agents that are gonna do different things. We want to launch a consulting agent, for instance, that is gonna help during the implementation of pigment.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 23:31 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment hires forward-deployed engineers for enterprise AI deployment
“At Pigment right now we are doing like what several AI companies are doing out there, which is hiring forward deployed engineers and people to really help with change management and deploying the models in the right way.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 52:27 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO
Disclosure
Pigment grows team to 500 employees globally
“So today we are 500 employees at Pigment.”
Eleonore Crespo Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 3:29 Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Goodbye Excel? AI Agents for Self-Driving Finance – Pigment CEO Sep 11, 2025 48m
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